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A video released on Wednesday combined a number of iPhone 4S parts with allegedly leaked components belonging to the next-generation iPhone, highlighting the supposed changes Apple made in regard to flex cables and screen size.

While the fresh video from repair company SmartPhone Medic doesn't offer much in the way of new information, it does give a close-up look at a few parts allegedly bound for the sixth-generation iPhone.

The video starts with two iPhone 4S display assemblies sitting between two front covers believed to be from the next-generation handset. Clearly seen is the difference in screen size as well as the placement of the device's proximity sensor and camera, which has been switched in relation to the current model. The front-facing camera now sits directly above the speaker while the infrared proximity sensor resides just to the left of the lozenge-shaped hole.



Next up is a quick size comparison with Samsung's Galaxy S III, which can nearly fit the entire front cover of the purported Apple handset within the boundaries of its massive 4.8-inch diagonal display.

Perhaps the most interesting section of the video is the comparison between the flex cables seen on the current iPhone 4S and next-gen iPhone. As pointed out above, one of the main operational iPhone 4S flex cables holds the headphone jack, volume rocker and vibrator switch, while the 'iPhone 5' counterpart eschews the jack and adds on the sleep/wake button control.

As for the charge port flex cables, the most obvious change is the down-sizing of Apple's 30-pin connector to a 9-pin design. Also noted is the new headphone jack placement, which is thought to now reside on the bottom of the handset akin to the iPod touch, and a service antenna.

A final comparison shows the new handset's proximity sensor flex cable will relocate the wake/sleep controls and add a noise-cancellation microphone.

In all, no new components or circuity were found, however it seems that Apple's engineers may have drastically reconfigured the purported next-gen iPhone's internals to make room for a battery that can power a 4-inch screen.

Apple is widely expected to both announce and take pre-orders for the device at a special event on Sept. 12, with the unit rumored to ship in the U.S. on Sept. 21.
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Looks legit. Getting inside the dock connector was a treat. So we don't have a double-sided dock connector port, but it does appear to be a double-sided dock connector plug,

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Whatever just deliver it to me day one.

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Maybe there will be a post showing a comparison to the iPhone 4s and the iPhone 5 logic boards soon.

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Maybe there will be a post showing a comparison to the iPhone 4s and the iPhone 5 logic boards soon.

I want a 12 minute exposè on the thickness and any variance in the Fraunhofer diffraction of the cover glass.
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Pffft.  part of a complex plan from apple to confuse people, and catch out those releasing apples IP

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I seriously doubt these iphone5 parts are real.

 

Apple keep product secret very well.

 

Even Apple fired their employee who showed ipad to wozniak.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Steve-Wozniak-iPad-Engineer-Fired,news-6588.html

 

I think these parts are all fake according to their plan.

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The fact that iPhone-5 has a smaller screen at the same time with a thicker bezel compared to S3 is just killing me.

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The fact that iPhone-5 has a smaller screen at the same time with a thicker bezel compared to S3 is just killing me.

The 6th gen iPhone side bezel is thinner than the Samsung phone shown in the video.

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so much for "doubling down on secrecy"

There has never been a product in Apple history that has been as dissected as this one was pre-relese. Not one. The only parts that are a mystery that I can think of are camera, CPU, GPU and memory.

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The fact that iPhone-5 has a much, much better screen at the same time with a thinner bezel compared to S3 is just killing me.

 

There, fixed that for you.

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If people are moaning about how it is not radically different from the 4S, I think they need to realise that Apple would not change the form factor just for the sake of changing it. I do not think there is another consumer electronics company that thinks about all aspects before deciding what goes in and what stays out of the next model.

 

I am sure that Ive has a revolutionary design prototype sitting in his lab, but it will see the light of day only when the time is right and the design is feasible. If not, then why not stick to the 4S design, which is one classy looking phone anyway you look at it.

 

This race towards a bigger phone can only go so far before we reach tablet territory. People taking calls on the Galaxy Note look every bit as ridiculous as those that used the original Nokia N-gage.

 

I used to watch a lot of movies on the iPhone and IMO, another inch or so is not going to make it radically different, either for movies or for browsing. Of course, YMMV, but now that there is an iPad, or other 7" tablets, if you prefer those, to watch movies and browse on a bigger screen, how big should the iPhone screen be before it becomes cumbersome?

 

One of the best things about the App Store is that it was launched for the iPhone and so we have excellent apps optimised just for the real-estate available on the iPhone. So even on the software front, there is no burning need for more screen size, IMHO.

 

I'm just waiting to get my hands on this as soon as possible!

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If people are moaning about how it is not radically different from the 4S, I think they need to realise that Apple would not change the form factor just for the sake of changing it. I do not think there is another consumer electronics company that thinks about all aspects before deciding what goes in and what stays out of the next model.

I don't know why people are moaning at all. This next iPhone is a new design... with a new screen too!

However... the iPhone 4S was exactly like the previous model... they should have moaned about that (oh wait... they did!)

You can't please everyone!
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There, fixed that for you.

 

Mis-quoting people is an absurd and offensive thing to do. 

 

Never do it again.

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I don't know why people are moaning at all. This next iPhone is a new design... with a new screen too!
However... the iPhone 4S was exactly like the previous model... they should have moaned about that (oh wait... they did!)
You can't please everyone!

 

Wait, so because the design didn't change means it's the exact same phone? Better processor, better graphics capabilities, more RAM, better camera..... None of that actually made it different from the 4? Interesting.

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Mis-quoting people is an absurd and offensive thing to do. 

 

Never do it again.

Telling people on a random internet forum what to do like you are their boss or parent is an absurd and offensive thing to do.

 

Have a nice day!

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I don't know why people are moaning at all. This next iPhone is a new design... with a new screen too!
However... the iPhone 4S was exactly like the previous model... they should have moaned about that (oh wait... they did!)
You can't please everyone!

 

I wouldn't call it a new design, just a slight evolution on the previous design. It's still a beautiful design, arguably the best in class, and there's certainly some sense in the old 'if it 'aint broke' idiom.

 

That said, phones are unfortunately fashion accessories for some, and people like new things. Change for change's sake may be a waste of energy, but it sells products.

 

Personally I'm perfectly happy with the design, I just wish Apple would offer it at multiple sizes. I'd go for a 4.8" iPhone over a 4" iPhone in a heartbeat.

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I wouldn't call it a new design, just a slight evolution on the previous design.

What is slight about it? Everything about it dramatically re-engineered. Larger display, smaller home button, headphone jack on bottom, anodized aluminum casing, new dock connector, redesigned and positioned FT camera and ambient light sensor, and a metal casing that wraps around the back. That's just external changes that come to mind. This is the most significant YoY change we've ever seen and will probably see for several years.

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I want a 12 minute exposè on the thickness and any variance in the Fraunhofer diffraction of the cover glass.

 

Have you seen the 22:38 video discussion of the new iPhone sRGB-Rec.709 Standard Color Gamut accuracy?

 

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I seriously doubt these iphone5 parts are real.

 

Apple keep product secret very well.

 

Even Apple fired their employee who showed ipad to wozniak.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Steve-Wozniak-iPad-Engineer-Fired,news-6588.html

 

I think these parts are all fake according to their plan.

 

I agree that the demonstrated parts are almost certainly not actual new iPhone parts.  SmartPhone Medic, the company providing the video, does not mention that they are an Apple authorized service provider anywhere on their website (that I could find).  Furthermore, Apple authorized service providers must adhere to certain guidelines including the use of the Apple logo and certainly not posting videos of products prior to release.

 

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so much for "doubling down on secrecy"

There has never been a product in Apple history that has been as dissected as this one was pre-relese. Not one. The only parts that are a mystery that I can think of are camera, CPU, GPU and memory.

 

Do you remember how sure many people were that Apple's fifth-gen iPhone to have curved glass screen?
 
I feel far more confident that I know the CPU and GPU specifications than anything else about the new iPhone.  While Apple may be misleading everyone by distributing misinformation about the new iPhone, there are only a few models of CPU and GPU feasible especially considering the typical use of premium parts in Apple iPhone.
 
 
 
 
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 People taking calls on the Galaxy Note look every bit as ridiculous as those that used the original Nokia N-gage.

 

 

And every bit as ridiculous as those capturing video with an ipad, whilst no doubt also holding it in portrait orientation (one of my pet hates*)...

 

I agree that there is a size limit for practicality when it comes to mobile devices who's primary function is a telephone. Hovering somewhere around the 4 inch diagonal seems to be the sweet spot dependent on the bezel size and aspect ratio. I also feel 3.5 inches is too small and 5 inches is too big. I expect the next phone from apple to be hitting that sweet spot, whatever the ratio.

 

 

 

 

 

*if iOS is so intuitive, why does it allow/encourage video capture in portrait? Surely, when switching to video capture mode, the on-screen graphics should simultaneously switch to landscape to prevent all these 'accidental' portrait videos we see everywhere.

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What is slight about it? Everything about it dramatically re-engineered. Larger display, smaller home button, headphone jack on bottom, anodized aluminum casing, new dock connector, redesigned and positioned FT camera and ambient light sensor, and a metal casing that wraps around the back. That's just external changes that come to mind. This is the most significant YoY change we've ever seen and will probably see for several years.

 

But it's visually similar to the iPhone 4. The jump from the very rounded 3G to the 4 was much more noticeable. The 5 is, for all intents and purposes, a 4 with a metal back.

 

Look at the difference between the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy S3. Very different.

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Telling people on a random internet forum what to do like you are their boss or parent is an absurd and offensive thing to do.

 

Have a nice day!

Some people on the internet behave like children, and should be treated as such. It's sad, but that's just the way it is. If people grew up, then they would be treated with respect.

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Look at the difference between the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy S3. Very different.

Actually, no. They both look like cr4p.
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I like how they compared the screen size to the Galaxy, then said the Galaxy still had the edge... lol... the edge in being too big?  If thats really the iPhone 6th model, it looks like a much better phone size than the galaxy.  I've really been hoping they won't be going overboard on size like some Android-based phones have been.

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Is it just me or is there a difference in the proximity sensor location on the white versus the black?  Looks to me like on the white it is next earpiece as mentioned in the video, while on the black it's next to the camera.

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But it's visually similar to the iPhone 4. The jump from the very rounded 3G to the 4 was much more noticeable. The 5 is, for all intents and purposes, a 4 with a metal back.

Look at the difference between the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy S3. Very different.

This phone is pure Ives. Level headed, thick skinned, ...thin client to his fingerprints...

...radiating asymmetry..., the observable universe Sir Jonathan draws upon in sketching a Jobsian mindset artifact on a literally and figuratively reflective canvas.

Abbot and Costello couldn't look more different. They partnered nonetheless in a comedy act that made people pay a bundle for a good laugh. They are fondly remembered, ...not so much for what they brought to the long-term conversation, but for how much waving waistlines can measure up to desperation.  
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But it's visually similar to the iPhone 4. The jump from the very rounded 3G to the 4 was much more noticeable. The 5 is, for all intents and purposes, a 4 with a metal back.

Look at the difference between the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy S3. Very different.

I don't see that at al. I see that is has flat sides like the iPhone 4/4S but that's like saying a a truck is the same as Volvo because they are both boxy. The external antenna is a brilliant design that Apple used for over 2 years — despite some people claiming it was stupid for a computer company to try to best real handset companies and claiming they would all be recalled — and I expect that design to live on for a long time. Sure, they could make it more round, and perhaps they will in the future, but I don't think that and that along is enough to say the entire design change is slight. I think you make a better argument by only focusing on the glass face.

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At 2:10 it says "32 pin dock connector"...isn't it 30 pin?

 

 


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I seriously doubt these iphone5 parts are real.

 

Apple keep product secret very well.

 

Even Apple fired their employee who showed ipad to wozniak.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Steve-Wozniak-iPad-Engineer-Fired,news-6588.html

 

I think these parts are all fake according to their plan.

If this is going to happen it would be Apples biggest masterpiece. Crowd and stock will go crazy if they actually tell everybody that the leaks have been fake and they are showing another iPhone.

There is so much attention on Apple like with no other company. Thats unfortunately why I think that the leaks are the real thing. I can hardly imagine how you would like to hide a new product everybody is keen on which gets produced million times before release. No way that parts are not making their way out of a factory.

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Actually, no. They both look like cr4p.

 

thats funny and true to me ..lol

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This is unreal.. the amount of part leaks for this device has been out of control.  I don't remember any apple product with this much hype or this many leaks.  It sort of bums me out.  I like the big surprise when they announce.. seems like we all pretty much know or can guess what the new phone is going to be like. 

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There, fixed that for you.


Must be awesome to be a hipster.

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Have you seen the 22:38 video discussion of the new iPhone sRGB-Rec.709 Standard Color Gamut accuracy?

That was a riveting video. In fact, that video was so good I am making a 4 hour miniseries on that video's excellence in detailing the iPhone's sRGB-Rec.709 Standard Color Gamut accuracy.


PS: In all seriousness, have you seen the Red Letter Media reviews on YouTube? Some are nearly as long as the original movies but they are poignant and funny. I know an hour-plus review of a 2 hour movie seem daunting but I say give this first part (10 minutes) your full attention to see if it can hooks you in.

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This is unreal.. the amount of part leaks for this device has been out of control.  I don't remember any apple product with this much hype or this many leaks.  It sort of bums me out.  I like the big surprise when they announce.. seems like we all pretty much know or can guess what the new phone is going to be like. 

You mean, you don't find its a big surprise every time 90% of the leaks turn out to be bogus?

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At 2:10 it says "32 pin dock connector"...isn't it 30 pin?

They might be referring to the latches but I don't think they are actually electronic connectors. I also don't think the metal shield on the current connector is included, unlike what we are seeing in the new design where there is no traditional metal shielding shown. There does look to be two ground connectors inside the port but that still counts as one on the pinout.

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The skinny look really sickens me. But I'm still getting it *sighs*

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Telling people on a random internet forum what to do like you are their boss or parent is an absurd and offensive thing to do.

 

Have a nice day!

 

Thank you for your defence. Kotatsu might have an argument, however, I made no attempt to conceal the changes. (What K meant by random internet forum when I have been here for over nine years is mystifying too. Further, AI has grown into a destination for disaffected Apple haters who flock here to vent their anger at Apple's success. Case in point, the post that I corrected.)

 

All the best. (You too K.)

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Originally Posted by 845032 View Post
I seriously doubt these iphone5 parts are real.

Apple keep product secret very well.

I think these parts are all fake according to their plan.

 

Well, you're sort of our finger on the pulse of Samsung… getting scared, are you?


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Further, AI has grown into a destination for disaffected Apple haters who flock here to vent their anger at Apple's success.

 

MacRumors must be full… 

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Must be awesome to be a hipster.

Yeah, he must be a Helluvacool guy....

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... AI has grown into a destination for disaffected Apple haters who flock here .....

It's more like an infestation....

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