Of course.....actually the App Store update dialog box told me that I already had OSX8 installed.....did I want to continue? Continue I did and here we are..... version 10.8.1
Late 2009 27' i7 iMac 16GB RAM.
Of course.....actually the App Store update dialog box told me that I already had OSX8 installed.....did I want to continue? Continue I did and here we are..... version 10.8.1
Late 2009 27' i7 iMac 16GB RAM.
… That the statement is completely nonsensical and based in no fact or reason, contradicting the vast majority opinion.
I have found bugs in Mountain Lion. That in no way means it "isn't ready" or "shameful", for heaven's sake.
It's a shame that features that worked properly in 10.7 don't work at all in 10.8. No excuse for that!
The same can be said about non-UB applications. Except there IS an excuse for that.
of course it does.
ML Release and ML GM were identical.. exactly the same... its the same build, they didn't even rebuild it.
I got an email from Apple even stating this fact and told me I had ML for free now for helping test.
Please share your rose tinted glasses. You are using your own experience and speaking as if it means more than that.
Here's the word from Metric Halo, who make the best OSX based high end audio pro hardware and software in the world, IMO, make the most bulletproof OSX drivers and definitely are among the most on-top-of issues of any vendor:
"It appears that based on these and other recent user reports, Mountain Lion is not able to provide reliability for recording. Hopefully a Mountain Lion update will address the issue. In the meantime, if you are experiencing this problem, you may want to roll back to Lion."
If you search you'll find that this is not a MH issue. I'm fortunate in that although I own two MH units I rarely use aggregate devices or work in the manner that is now broken for these people, but the upper tier sound design/recordists/live audio people live by it, and from what I'm being told are mostly trying to stay in Snow Leopard, since the more problematic issues with Lion are not being addressed. Some are back in Lion and are fine. But "What's the quickest way to roll back from Mountain Lion?" is the loudest cry in the pro audio community, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
edit: Here's a quote from one of numerous users in a single day's list post responding about the update:
"Subject: Re: [MobileIO] mountain lion crackle: "Sadly, the 10.8.1 update (pre-release) does not fix this problem." "

I have had Mountain Lion crash my iMac consistently since installation. I even corrupted the disk when I had to power off and had to do a reinstall. Thought everything had been stable for a few days and then the SBBOD. I hope this patch release fixes things. I hate to say it because its a running joke on App Insider but Safari seems to be running a lot quicker :)
My I7 iMac just simply stops responding daily on average. A hard re-boot is the only option. WiFi has never been so flaky, my iPad sails along on the network while the iMac struggles to keep a connection. I have the AirPort utility open in the background to check on the latest issue. None of this existed prior to ML. I do like the new OS in general terms though.
I installed 10.8.1 about an hour ago. It's too early to say about the battery life, but before and after the update my rMBP runs hotter than the sun when I'm running Diablo III. According to the iStat Pro Dashboard widget, my GPU was running close to 79 degrees celcius (165 fahrenheit) when I was running Diablo and the fans were spinning like crazy. Now it's down to 110 fahrenheit. This is downright scary hot.
Hopefully this gets fixed in 10.8.2 because it's a little disturbing.


No one is saying these audio people are being foolish. They are as interested in having the advantages of the new OS as anyone. It's just that when a calendar doesn't sync you can shrug it off. When your plugins freeze you might say I don't have time for this.
Many of them are reporting various non-critical issues, including ones such as plugin UI's becoming unresponsive and some are reporting assorted kludges that seem to work for some but not all. Logic users seem to have been hit harder than most, which is certainly ironic. ML is fine for some and undoable for some. The biggest disappointment is that for some of the audio people who have been waiting for Lion to be more stable, the updates have not addressed most of the issues.
Obviously people know how to go back to SL, and that's what many are doing. Just Google each of the hardware and software vendors forums to read the specifics.

Please share your rose tinted glasses. You are using your own experience and speaking as if it means more than that.I'm sure you're right. I have to ask, though, if the "pro audio community" is the rule or the exception? I mean, there are all kinds of people using Macs these days, and pro audio/video folks are just a subset of the entire Mac-using community. While the problem may be devastating from your perspective, it's entirely possible (indeed, likely) that most users aren't experiencing what you are.
I'm just saying, while I understand your pain, "You are using your own experience and speaking as if it means more than that."
nitewing98, I think you're misunderstanding me. : ) My post was only to point out some real world problems in ML in a relatively small but vital pro arena to refute Tallest Skill's assertion that there are no important things wrong in this update. ML is great but they've obviously got teams and teams of programmers banging out fixes for issues in things like the App Store, messaging and facebook integration while it feels like they've got two interns in charge of some of the very basic but under-the-radar specialized system features such as Core Audio and Aggregate Devices. Absolutely true, of course, that no one outside of recording studios use either of these, but equally true is that IN recording studios we all do : ) They are naturally the exception and not the rule, but still...The whole is made up of groups that are the exception and not the rule : )
For most of the world ML is working great and again, in recording studios many are not having these same problems in certain situations. But my point was that some things are still broken in it and some are now newly broken, and I daily don't see it as the perfect release that Tallest Skill says it is. You'd need to read the listservs and etcs to see that it's not trivial stuff for us.
My own recording rig is run off a 2008 MBP using ProTools, Logic and Metric Halo products on 10.6.8 and it runs great : ) I have no reason to put ML on it.
I got the HP printer software update as well, total ca. 13 MB. Guessing the 10.8.2 updater will be a biggie. Readying for iOS6, etc..
ML and now updated ML have caused no problems at all. Safari's much quicker. ML has been faster with less stalls and somewhat better BL that Lion. (13" MBAir oct 2011).