Samsung guilty of patent infringement, Apple awarded nearly $1.05B [u] - Page 6

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Originally Posted by jragosta 

I want to add one thing.
There have been endless complaints about Tim Cook and arguments that he's not fit for the job and that he couldn't accomplish anything.
He's just finished his 1 year anniversary and Apple stock is up about $270 billion from when he took over. Under his tenure, Apple just one one of the biggest lawsuits ever in the mobile phone industry.
Congratulations are in order for Tim Cook.

Agreed.  the man is largely responsible for the resurgence Apple has seen for many years now.  He was just the behind the scenes guy making it happen reliably while Jobs was the front man/rock star.

Cook isn't the personality Jobs was.  But he is definitely the mind.  He is not quite as creative.  But he is possibly even more business savvy and disciplined.  

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Originally Posted by Ewan 

He didn't initiate the lawsuit, neither did he win it, the lawyers did. I don't see how he deserves any credit for this.

Then you must be blind...

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Originally Posted by pfisher 

I wouldn't lump Samsung's phone business with the rest of their businesses, which make everything under the sun. They are a conglomerate and they are very good at what they do with technology advancements.

Actually, Samsung spends a lot of time stealing from others. Sharp sued it for violating its TV patents. If LG hasn't sued it for violating its washer and dryer designs, it should. The company has made fortune using the research and development of other companies. 

Court resumes. Two problems. Stay tuned.

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Originally Posted by jragosta 


You don't think Cook had any say in the strategy? You don't think Cook had any part of the settlement discussions? You don't think Cook had to decide whether to file the suit - and then continue it?
You're really confused.

He clearly didn't do a good job at the settlement discussions because they didn't settle. So if anything, by allowing the verdict to go to Jury, it shows that Tim Cook did a poor job and couldn't keep Apple's fate in his own hands.

score one for the good guys!  Samesung is lucky. they should have be banned from selling phones and tablets in the USA ever since alls they do is copy Apple.

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Originally Posted by mac512 
What was it ?

 

The iPad's "rounded rectangle" patent.

OK, Thanks.

That leaves room for constructors to build tablets and compete, in a fair way. It's maybe the reason for that.

Awkward situation when the verdict was announced: Samsung lawyers looked at Apple lawyers to copy their reaction.

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Originally Posted by Asim Soofi 

Apple just got a $1 Billion discount on parts...nothing more.

 

So how much of it do the lawyers get?

You're ignoring the broad ramifications for the infringements on the products. That's worth well in excess of several billion more.

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Originally Posted by ClemyNX 

Many people fail to understand how this verdict is to be read. The 1 billion something is the total SM has to pay, the rest that was given per phone was just a breakdown. So basically Apple got half of what they requested, still a big success for them since Sam didn't get a penny.
They answered following the grid they had to fill so it was pretty easy to follow with that as a reference.

Keep in mind, however, the money judgement can be quite a bit larger. The judge can treble the jury award where the jury found willful infringement. 

Do you think before samsungs appeal goes through that they will make sure their laywers are all licensed to practice?

Originally Posted by Ewan 
He clearly didn't do a good job at the settlement discussions because they didn't settle. So if anything, by allowing the verdict to go to Jury, it shows that Tim Cook did a poor job and couldn't keep Apple's fate in his own hands.

… Okay, so when your little brother keeps saying, "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." to everything you say and you have to have your mother moderate instead of breaking his thumbs like a proper gangster, that's YOUR fault? I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by Ewan 

He clearly didn't do a good job at the settlement discussions because they didn't settle. So if anything, by allowing the verdict to go to Jury, it shows that Tim Cook did a poor job and couldn't keep Apple's fate in his own hands.

They did not settle because Samesung wants to steal from Apple.  Cook clearly did a good job and did not "settle" for pennies.  Samesung only knows how to copy, they can not innovate.

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Originally Posted by 9secondko 

 

Agreed.  the man is largely responsible for the resurgence Apple has seen for many years now.  He was just the behind the scenes guy making it happen reliably while Jobs was the front man/rock star.

 

Cook isn't the personality Jobs was.  But he is definitely the mind.  He is not quite as creative.  But he is possibly even more business savvy and disciplined.  

Agreed +++

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Originally Posted by Mr. H 


No, they didn't:
Obviously the guys over at Cnet got very confused and thought that:
a.) 1 billion, 51 million = $1.5 billion
b.) That that was for the Tab 10.1 when in fact it was the total awarded

Does this really matter? It is a rather trivial sum (did I say that about something in the billions!? ) in the larger scheme of things. Indeed, irrelevant.

Apple could have been awarded $1 in damages, and it would still be beyond HUGE.

The image speaks for itself. Before iPhone and after. Blatantly obvious.

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Originally Posted by TBell 

 

 

Actually, you could write a hit song using any of those names and it would be OK.

In Korea you sure could, it's done on a weekly basis and called 'K-pop" (really cheesy cringeworthy pop music, often with melodies entirely ripped off from western songwriters, in case you didn't know). 

But if you're so cocksure why don't you go ahead and write Imagine, with all those same letters of the alphabet as the original written by John Lennon, and with almost the same melody, and see how many record labels you can rustle up to market it stateside? I'm betting Yoko Ono would ride you like a kayak to Takeshima before you could say kimchee! :)

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Originally Posted by bullhead 

score one for the good guys!  Samesung is lucky. they should have be banned from selling phones and tablets in the USA ever since alls they do is copy Apple.

No, they're not lucky. Bans are coming soon. That's phase two.

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Originally Posted by Ewan 

He clearly didn't do a good job at the settlement discussions because they didn't settle. So if anything, by allowing the verdict to go to Jury, it shows that Tim Cook did a poor job and couldn't keep Apple's fate in his own hands.

You can't reach a settlement with irrational thieves. Tim Cook made the wise choice.

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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer 

 

You're ignoring the broad ramifications for the infringements on the products. That's worth well in excess of several billion more.

Indeed. The market has already awarded Apple over $10B. With more to come, I am sure....

 I think it matters, the closest to the 2.5 billions claimed by Apple the best for Apple.

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Originally Posted by Apple ][ 

No, they're not lucky. Bans are coming soon. That's phase two.

This is bad news for the carriers, too.  They will not be able to force a subsidy cut on Apple if the Android phones become weaker.

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Originally Posted by Apple ][ 

You're severely underestimating the importance that the US has upon other markets.

In what way?  

Or are you meaning the continuing  pressure of the US to pressure smaller countries to alter their intellectual property laws to suit the USA?

Hopefully Samsung will make original designs in future, now that they have no choice. Microsoft was able to.

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Originally Posted by GTR 

Brilliant!

It'll be appealed.

Nobody, no matter how damning the evidence, is just going to roll over & fork out $1 billion.  They're going to exhaust all possible routes first.

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Originally Posted by jungmark 

Awkward situation when the verdict was announced: Samsung lawyers looked at Apple lawyers to copy their reaction.

LOL

-kpluck