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post #241 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:17pm
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Originally Posted by ascii View Post

Hopefully Samsung will make original designs in future, now that they have no choice. Microsoft was able to.
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Micro- Who?

Ah now I remember.

This company with the clown in the keynote presentations.
These presentations are really original and definitely not copied from Apple. LOL
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post #242 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:17pm

Samsung should've settled.

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post #243 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:18pm
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LOL

 

-kpluck

 

 

I chocked laughing, be careful i may sue you!

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post #244 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:18pm
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It'll be appealed.

Nobody, no matter how damning the evidence, is just going to roll over & fork out $1 billion.  They're going to exhaust all possible routes first.

Of course. But, as was pointed out a few days ago by someone else, this give Apple the upper hand.

Note that Samsung can not simply ask for an appeal because they didn't like the verdict. They must show that there was an error OF LAW (not just an error in the judge's opinions) and that the error was large enough that it might have changed the outcome.

And even if they're granted an appeal, it's unlikely that it would be broad enough to cover everything.
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post #245 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:19pm
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Classy!
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post #246 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by sippincider View Post

It'll be appealed.

 

Nobody, no matter how damning the evidence, is just going to roll over & fork out $1 billion.  They're going to exhaust all possible routes first.

 

Didn't Apple pay billions to Nokia a couple of years back (settled out of court)?

 

Yeah, this case will be appealed regardless of who wins it.

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post #247 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:22pm
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Hopefully Samsung will make original designs in future, now that they have no choice. Microsoft was able to.

They already have.
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post #248 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by The Verge's liveblog
Samsung's attorneys are now arguing that the jury's finding of patent exhaustion not be valid because one of the prerequisites for patent exhaustion is that Apple's devices had infringed in the first place.

 

The things they'll do, you know?


Judge Koh reads a note from the jury. They've asked they be sent down which inconsistencies they are deliberating on.

 

Three Stooges-esque slap on the head: "PAY ATTENTION, WILL YOU?"

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post #249 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:23pm
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I want to add one thing.

There have been endless complaints about Tim Cook and arguments that he's not fit for the job and that he couldn't accomplish anything.

He's just finished his 1 year anniversary and Apple stock is up about $270 billion from when he took over. Under his tenure, Apple just one one of the biggest lawsuits ever in the mobile phone industry.

Congratulations are in order for Tim Cook.

+++ Hear, hear.... Oye, Oye, Oye...
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post #250 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by Ewan View Post

He didn't initiate the lawsuit, neither did he win it, the lawyers did. I don't see how he deserves any credit for this.

 

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You don't think Cook had any say in the strategy? You don't think Cook had any part of the settlement discussions? You don't think Cook had to decide whether to file the suit - and then continue it?
You're really confused.

 

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He clearly didn't do a good job at the settlement discussions because they didn't settle. So if anything, by allowing the verdict to go to Jury, it shows that Tim Cook did a poor job and couldn't keep Apple's fate in his own hands.

 

Tim Cook, as CEO of Apple, gets credit when Apple does good and held accountable when they do poorly. 

Why does Apple bashing and trolling make people feel so good?

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post #251 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:25pm

Kicked them square in the nuts.

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post #252 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:28pm

Well the jury's one hour requested extension is up so this will likely resume on Monday.

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post #253 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:30pm
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[" url="/t/152115/samsung-guilty-of-patent-infringement-apple-awarded-1-05b/200#post_2175175"]No, they're not lucky. Bans are coming soon. That's phase two.

Most of the devices are no longer available.
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post #254 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:37pm
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You don't think Cook had any say in the strategy? You don't think Cook had any part of the settlement discussions? You don't think Cook had to decide whether to file the suit - and then continue it?

You're really confused.
He clearly didn't do a good job at the settlement discussions because they didn't settle. So if anything, by allowing the verdict to go to Jury, it shows that Tim Cook did a poor job and couldn't keep Apple's fate in his own hands.

Boy, is that ever screwed-up logic! Apple didn't sue for the money... They sued to protect their IP.. Settlement would have brought them dollars, but little satisfaction -- and no protection.

Now, Apple has drawn a line in the sand for all to see -- and it has been sanctified by the court.

It was risky from a dollar view -- but, that wasn't the issue. I am satisfied that Tim saw it through!

Several precedents have been set.. Legal and political.
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post #255 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:41pm
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We'll see how Apple plays its cards. Perhaps, as I suspected, Apple is playing this win for leveraging against its weak position in the possible upcoming war over implementations of 4G LTE standards which its competitors and foes own the majority of the patents of and are far ahead in the game. Apple already lost one battle against Nokia on this front.

 

 

I guess you forgot about all the 4G patents Apple got off Nortel...

 

...nice fantasy, but,

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post #256 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

1) Bring in the guilty bastards
2) Give them a fair trial
3) Hang 'em
Summarized from my non-infringed iPad

 

I think you got the wrong thread, the DoJ ebooks one is that-a-way ----->

 

;)

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post #257 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:44pm
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Dude, quit your day job and start making the T-shirts; you'll sell those by the score (maybe just send me a freebee?)

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post #258 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:45pm

I don't understand why they didn't settle. It's a shame Steve isn't here to see this. Enjoy is clearly the wrong word. 


Edited by AdonisSMU - 8/24/12 at 6:05pm
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post #259 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:46pm
Apple beware, better do not disappoint with iPhone5 as it was with 4S. My corporate Samsung Galaxy SIII on Verizon 4G LTE with 24mbps made my FIOS with 13Mbps look like junky dial up. Wifey's Verizon iPhone4 "rocks" at 1.1mbps. At least some 1B $ relief for Apple for being one year behind competitors. Rambus was also winning in courts.
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post #260 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:48pm
Originally Posted by Andrey View Post
Apple beware, better do not disappoint with iPhone5 as it was with 4S.

 

Troll somewhere else. Today's not a good day for you.

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post #261 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:50pm
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Can I have mine with butter and no salt please?  Also I would like a beer, Bud LIght in the bottle.  Thanks man your the greatest.

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post #262 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:50pm

I like both iOS and Android and most of this was a ruling against TouchWiz not against Android.  There were a couple of rulings against Android OS direct but I know that bounce back has already been removed, not sure about that tap to deal though.

 

I have 2 iPod Touch's and 2 Apple TV's, used to have an iPad 3.  I also have 2 Google TV's, Nexus 7 and a Motorola Photon.

 

I agree with pretty much all of the judgements, although I reserve the right to change my mind because I'm not a patent lawyer.  I see this as more of a judgement against Samsung rather than Google, so this thermonuclear war against Android has not really started, against Samsung, yeah I can see it, but against Android, not yet.

 

PS:  I'm a huge fan of widgets.  I had the iPod touch before I bought any cell phone and widgets and what they could do swayed me to get an Android phone.

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post #263 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:52pm
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Today's not a good day for you.

I don't care about both Apple and Samsung. I'll buy best technology. Looks like someone takes it personally. 1smile.gif
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post #264 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:53pm
Ha now the fandroids are moaning that the jury came back with a verdict too soon, and that this will be overturned on appeal. LOL How often do 3 panel judges overturn jury verdicts? Oh and they're also whining about the setting being favorable to Apple even though both companies signed off on the jury. Sorry fandroids Samsung got pwned. And what's really hilarious is TouchWiz seems to be the biggest culprit and most fandroids would prefer stock Android anyways. lol.gif

Microsoft having some fun with this verdict.

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post #265 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:55pm
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Apple beware, better do not disappoint with iPhone5 as it was with 4S. My corporate Samsung Galaxy SIII on Verizon 4G LTE with 24mbps made my FIOS with 13Mbps look like junky dial up. Wifey's Verizon iPhone4 "rocks" at 1.1mbps. At least some 1B $ relief for Apple for being one year behind competitors. Rambus was also winning in courts.

 

So how many Blueray quality DVD's do you download or stream using your corporate phone?

 

Like how much faster do you get those corporate emails, is it quicker than the lag between touching something and it doing something on the screen?

 

Your download speed spec means NOTHING to most of the people on earth, it makes very little difference in the real world.

 

It's a useless, stupid pissing contest.

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post #266 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:56pm
Samsunk.
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post #267 of 413
8/24/12 at 5:57pm
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Dude, quit your day job and start making the T-shirts; you'll sell those by the score (maybe just send me a freebee?)

 

Patent it first, NOW ;-)

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post #268 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:00pm

They done gone home, it is over...for now.

 

$1,049,343,540.

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post #269 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:01pm
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This is huge in the US, yes. But, elsewhere? I don't think the impact will be that big. Different countries always mean different jurisdictions. Although, many, if not all, of Android phone makers will try harder to make sure that their phones are not infringing Apple's patents just to avoid of being hassled or haggled in the court of law by Apple anywhere on the planet. 

 

 

Even if other jurisdictions don't agree with the U.S. decision, no manufacturer will want to deal with the legal hassle or make two versions of a device with one for the U.S. market. Ultimately, playing nice makes the most money.

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post #270 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:02pm
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Ha now the fandroids are moaning that the jury came back with a verdict too soon, and that this will be overturned on appeal. LOL How often do 3 panel judges overturn jury verdicts? Oh and they're also whining about the setting being favorable to Apple even though both companies signed off on the jury. Sorry fandroids Samsung got pwned. And what's really hilarious is TouchWiz seems to be the biggest culprit and most fandroids would prefer stock Android anyways. lol.gif
Microsoft having some fun with this verdict.
s31yk3.jpg

 

So that's what FUD stands for - "Fresh. Unique. Different."  Thanks for clearing that up!

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post #271 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:02pm

Keh-Goggi E-Se'o Adashi?  Samsung E-Se'o EEmee Sheemee Peck peck poji-da!!!!!!!!

 

요리하는 개 각하?  Samsung 누군가 엄마는 대머리 털이 있는 버들강아지가 있다

 

Now that is not how it is really spelled. I spelled it this way so you would know how it is pronounced.

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post #272 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:03pm
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I don't care about both Apple and Samsung. I'll buy best technology. Looks like someone takes it personally. 1smile.gif

Like he said, go away.

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post #273 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:04pm
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So how many Blueray quality DVD's do you download or stream using your corporate phone?

Like how much faster do you get those corporate emails, is it quicker than the lag between touching something and it doing something on the screen?

Your download speed spec means NOTHING to most of the people on earth, it makes very little difference in the real world.

It's a useless, stupid pissing contest.

How about 2 adults sitting on iPads and 2 kids streaming pandora on iTouches from my hotspot without any lag during this summer vacation on a ocean. Use your imagination.
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post #274 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:07pm
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How about 2 adults sitting on iPads and 2 kids streaming pandora on iTouches from my hotspot without any lag during this summer vacation on a ocean. Use your imagination.

What's an 'iTouch'?

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post #275 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:08pm
All these comments I'm seeing on the web about the jury not being smart enough to decide this case because they're not experts in patents...well had Samsung won would these same people still be claiming that? Of course not. We'd hear about how brilliant the jury was and thank god for common sense, blah blah blah.
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post #276 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:09pm
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How about 2 adults sitting on iPads and 2 kids streaming pandora on iTouches from my hotspot without any lag during this summer vacation on a ocean. Use your imagination.

What's an iTouch? And why - it sounds uncomfortable - are adults sitting on iPads?

 

edit: Damn, beaten to the punch by anantksundaram!

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post #277 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:13pm
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What's an 'iTouch'?

Our Nickname for iPod Touch.
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post #278 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:15pm
It's a great day. Nice to finally see some justice served. Well done, Apple!!
Here now.
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Here now.
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post #279 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:16pm
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Name calling and belittling others because you have 9,000 posts and no life. How very sad.

It's not the number of posts, it's because YOU'RE WRONG. 

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post #280 of 413
8/24/12 at 6:21pm
Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post
What's an 'iTouch'?

 

A discontinued Logitech keyboard.


Originally Posted by Andrey View Post
Our Nickname for iPod Touch.

 

Oh, so like my iPod touch is called "The Emulation" or how my iPhone is called "The Triumverate"…


Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post
It's not the number of posts, it's because YOU'RE WRONG. 

 

I'd like to put that in my signature, but I've more important stuff there right now. Crying shame… 

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