BOOBIES to you too!
BOOBIES to you too!
Here, sure. But we're as meaningful to that as we are to anything else. The rest of the world sees Apple for what they are, not the suits.
Originally posted by Relic
Originally posted by Relic
Another "in denial" Samesung LOSER fandroid! Apple = WINNING! Samesung =LOSERS!
I am a little surprised it was such a big win for Apple, just because I have little faith in a jury. I expected some sort of curveball that was a half victory for Apple, but this is pretty cut and dry.
Samsung's claim that this is a loss for the American consumer is completely ridiculous. I suppose a marketplace full of cookie cutter phones that all look and operate the same is...what.... beneficial? Samsung is full of it. They deserved to loose and deserve to pay every dime.
That all said, I am careful not to beat the wardrum. I really think Apple will need be careful as they move forward. At some point, people start rooting for the underdog if they perceive you as a bully. Samsung is a big company and no one feels pity for them. It was obvious they ripped off Apple. Some of the other handset makers are not as large as Samsung, and Apple's should consider more reserved tactics. I think the smart move now is to move into a more covert strategy and keep the war with Android as far from the public eye as possible. At some point, making millions (or even billions) in royalties and licensing off of Android is fitting, less risky and, ultimately, profitable.
Honestly, I don't think Apple is the patent trolling, choice loathing, anti-competitive company some people paint them as. So I really think they will be a bit more conservative moving forward. The fact is, Samsung was personal. They didn't even make their cloning strategy a secret. We saw plenty of evidence showing they set out to rip off the iPhone and discussed doing so. They were BLATANT about it and it didn't bother them in the least....until they were called on it. Apple has not been quick to litigate and Samsung thought they could pull this off, but boy were they wrong. Frankly, I am glad to see Apple win one (EDIT: court case that is).
I wouldn't bet against it. BTW, what is the record for a forum thread?
Because it's right before the weekend, if AI doesn't post too many more Apple vs. Samsung stories, this thread has a chance to reach at least 600 by Monday.
It's getting late here in the U.S., but we'll start picking up the angry UK Apple-hating trolls (of which there are seemingly many on these forums) overnight. And we'll start slapping them down in the morning.
Maybe because the really angry/noisy/sociopathic trolls are laying low, or at least stay off this thread because they know they can post all the lame PICTURZZZ they want and it WON'T MAKE UP FOR A $1.05 BILLION JUDGMENT AGAINST THEIR INFRINGEMENT IDOL SAMSUNG.
I am guessing they're going to be thoroughly gobsmacked and rendered speechless when they wake up tomorrow (today, for them). Brilliant!
it could go that way, yes. but now Samsung has strong reasons to finally settle with Apple, close to the licensing terms we learned from testimony that Apple offered them. because Samsung knows it will lose all of Apple's component supply business if it drags this on for years only to still lose in the end - huge current sales $'s for Samsung which will grow even bigger with time. it is a bad business bet for Samsung to fight to the bitter end.
Haven't you ever watched a lawyer drama on TV? Settlement meetings aren't a negotiation. Each side believes they will win and neither accepts lowball offers. In this case I assume Cook was told by his lawyers that Apple was going to win without any doubt. He rightfully choose to not accept a lowball Samsung offer.
And really "keep Apple's fate in his own hands"? That is hilarious. If they were trying to do that they never would have sued in the first place.
It is so rare that justice is done that when it finally is my reaction is sheer delight.
Samsung and the Android folk are in a severe reality-distortion field where they are feel free to copy whatever and to somehow justify it to themselves as competition. They have brainwashed themselves with this nonsense and they cannot back out of it without their entire self-image collapsing.
Can iTouch your hotspot?
Haha, the circle of life (on AI).
Doesn't the announcement of Steve's death hold that record?
it should be considerably easier with the recent news, chances are all they are going to come up with is the same dull crap that is being spewed all across the net right now. wah wah rectangles, wah wah, innovation, wah wah consumer, wah wah monopoly, wah wah anticompetitive, wah wah corrupt court system, wah wah bias judge, wah wah paid off jury, wah wah diaper change...
ya know.. the usual bs from the trolldroids
Nothing to fear if you ain't willfully copying.
Do you care to give examples of your statement [one in bold face]? Koreans in particular see Americans as their saviors during the Korean War. And, South Korea is among the staunchest US ally in Asia and Pacific. The only thing I know how Koreans hate the Japanese to the bone, the sentiment imparted and kept for generations as a result of Japanese occupation of the Korean Peninsula in the early 1900.
The US regimes which had catered and pampered many iron fist dictators in the past, the likes of Saddam Hussein, Pinochet, Suharto, Marcos, Shah Iran, and others, had also produced Park Chung Hee. This military general had requested and subsequently had been given a huge economic aids by the US in the 1960's. Unlike those other named dictators who squandered billions of US aids with almost nothing to show for their respective countries, Park Chung Hee used the aid money to build his country industrial machinations and also to rebuild South Korea's education system. It was his belief that education and the heavy industry will be keys for South Korea's future. He was right. Present day Koreans are among the most highly educated populace in the world. Imagine this: It takes 40 years for the Japanese to rebuild itself after being demolished by the great war and become one of the leading countries in the world at the forefront of industry and technology. But, it takes South Korea even less time than the Japanese to raise itself from the ashes of Korean War, from one of the poorest countries in the world in the late 1950's, to become an industrial powerhouse. South Korean currently ranks as the 12th largest economy in the world. For all of these progresses, South Koreans. old and young, feel that they are deeply indebted to the US.
Their drives to conquer the world of technology and other industries are actually nothing more than their drive to beat the Japanese at the world stage. I still don't quite know how you come up with your opinion about Koreans. The only white people Koreans are still very angry even to this day is the Russians for the one infamy in the 1980's. The Korean Airline jetliner Flight 007 was shot down by a Russian interceptor Sukhoi SU-15 in 1983 for allegedly trespassing the Russian airspace. All 269 passengers aboard the plane perished. Wouldn't you get angry, furious and saddened had that happened to your own compatriots?
Yeah, you'd think that, but... some people are pretty dense.
Microsoft isn't "living in fear" of Apple. Nor is Nokia, HP, Amazon, RIM. They know Apple gave Samsung plenty of warning, chances to license and settle out of court. DaHater has as much a distorted worldview as Samsung. In his world, innovation means "everyone copies everyone."
Yeah, like something like that would never happen in Europe:-
Samsung is suing Apple over this in Germany.
Those are interlocutory appeals, which are a different animal and heard far more rapidly.
Any injunctions that now may be ordered will have a rapid appeal process as well. But the appeal of the actual jury verdict and various other decisions by the judge at trial will take, at minimum, a year. Federal courts are not as bad as state courts, but they are clogged as well, and that is simply the minimum amount of time it takes to fully brief all issues, schedule oral argument, and get a decision. 18 months, give to take, is probably more likely.
Then, if there is any portion of the case that is overturned on appeal, depending on the ruling, it may have to be remanded back to the district court for further proceedings. This, then, opens up the door to winding up before the court of appeals again.
Trust me, this could go on for quite a long time. Just a few weeks ago I was researching an april 2012 district court opinion from a case that began in 1998, and that case is still not done either! Obviously that is an extreme example, but my point is that you simply never know, especially when a billion dollars is on the line.
You meant ALL 150+ 4G LTE patents it got off Nortel? Armed only with these, Apple is indeed screwed. Thankfully, Apple has Qualcomm on its side for the so-called "patent exhaustion" defense, since Apple is using Qualcomm's chip. That being said, any 4G LTE patents outside of Qualcomm's reach, literally thousands of them by numerous parties [Nokia, Samsung, Sony, Ericsson, Panasonic, Interdigital, LG, Motorola,...], will be Apple's nightmare. Since Apple is in aggressive and offensive modes in its "thermonuclear" patent war, you can be sure those companies inside the bracket will be on similar modes as well.
Check this out, for some additional readings:
So, Apple has decided to go "thermonuclear", and this will be its ensuing radioactive cloud entrapping Apple thoroughly in it.
So the patents will be pooled for the standard, licensed under FRAND, Apple's contribution of "150+ patents" is more than enough to get them in the club.
Apple also has cross licensing agreements with Nokia, who stand to do quite well out of todays win, seeing as how they never took the Android bait and so avoided the trap.
Total FRAND fail, akin to sitting on your own H-Bomb and pushing the button.
"It only takes one bullet to kill" said Samsung's lawyers, who are also Google's lawyers (via Motorola) and HTC's lawyers.
Quinn Emmanuel's reputation is plummeting after all these losses, they better be making good money now because who would choose a bunch of losers to represent them.
The Android "nukes" have been defused.