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I depends. Were the findings against parts that were Samsung unique or Android core? I don't know enough about Android to answer that - I'm sure someone will do an analysis...


I think we saw some of that analysis during the trial.  Samsung actually did change the default iconography to be more iOS like from the standard android set.  But, it does make sense that the other suits that are outstanding will have some interesting landmines to cross. 

post #42 of 162

Sure sammy, delfect the bad press off of you. Then again the loss to the consumer probably means sammy will raise it's prices to pay for the settlement.

post #43 of 162

I think on an Apple centric news aggregator like this it is worth noting that Samsung is more than just a copy cat.  They make high quality products, especially components in cellphones, and they take pride in the quality of the products they make.  Culturally, they do not "see" that copying the "best" in a competitors product is anything more than competition.  You need to do more than just dismiss Samsung as "Samesung".  You need to realize that there are a lot of people who honestly believe we would be better off if Samsung could make their high quality knock offs.  Many of those people feel that technology improvements and small businesses would benefit if IP rules made it much harder to obtain a patent.  If you think that it is okay to download stolen software, music, or porn then you probably shouldn't be angry at Samsung.  I actually think the price Samsung paid is in line with what should be reasonable for the actions they took.  I don't think suing some kid for tens of thousands of dollars for downloading a few songs is reasonable.  People that run servers that actively benefit from showing stolen products should be hit much harder.  That is my view and it is pretty consistent with what I believe to be fair and reasonable.  

 

Apple still needs Samsung to make the high quality parts that are used in the iPhone.  There is an extensive class of patents which Samsung uses to make those products which Apple has been benefiting from.  If you have been paying attention to the news you would realize that Apple has had big quality issues with the LG panels being used to build the new retina macbook pro.  Apple should be willing to settle this dispute with Samsung without hanging all of their business on the results from this one case.  One of the best bloggers on the web, Asymco's Horace Deidu, made the point that suing your competitor for IP infringements like this is not a good business plan. When pressed to comment on the odds of Apple winning this lawsuit Horace replied: "Again, I don’t have an opinion on legal matters. Broadly speaking, IP litigation is similar to playing the lottery."  Apple has now made the point that it should not be copied directly and protected their intellectual property rights.  The real question now is will Apple take the high road, and lock in the win they have made in this case and offer to cross license technology with their partner, Samsung.  There is plenty of money to be made by both parties.  The smartphone and tablet markets taken together is the largest market by gross product that has ever been conceived of.  Hundreds of billions of Dollars of profits are on the table at this point.  A simple effort to avoid infringing on each other's trade dress, and a cross license of all technical and software patents would be a huge win for both Apple and Samsung.  Please remember that Apple never made any great products until they quit fighting Microsoft and put the heart and soul of the company into the effort to make new products for the "digital life"

post #44 of 162
[This statement from Samsung is even more pathetic, whiny and bitchy than I expected. I love how they still think its cute using the 'rounded rectangles' line, after a jury convicted them of willful infringement of many patents and trade dress. A jury, not Apple, or iSheep.

Pathetic. Go home and cry Samsung. Maybe now you will understand that actions have consequences.
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Originally Posted by Macnewsjunkie View Post

Please remember that Apple never made any great products until they quit fighting Microsoft and put the heart and soul of the company into the effort to make new products for the "digital life"

 

*snort* You should have made this your first sentence.

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post #46 of 162

LMAO

 

Samsung can be replaced with any other lousy Android OEM and no one would miss a beat. 

post #47 of 162

Congratulations to Apple.  They don't steal, they innovate, create, purchase when needed and have a high degree of ethics.  While imitation is a form of flattery, copying and theft of intellectual property is not flattery, but theft.  Unfortunately, many do not see it this way and theft of IP will continue.  Many in the business world to not possess the degree of ethics that Apple has and they do not even aspire to be ethical - it is what ever it takes to get ahead and make a $ at anyone's expense.  Thank you Apple for hanging in there and I know Steve Jobs is proud of the People that make up Apple.  I know I am.

 

This will not be a loss for the American Consumer as you will learn.

post #48 of 162
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post #49 of 162
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I depends. Were the findings against parts that were Samsung unique or Android core? I don't know enough about Android to answer that - I'm sure someone will do an analysis...

I believe the strategy is to go after the profits... Google makes none on the Android code, therefore the OEMs are the target, since they are the final 'coders' of the device, and build the HW and UI.   Don't know how that plays in the Moto Mobility side of the game.

 

My guess is that any actively sold device with this IP will be C&Ded  in the US immediately, With Apple using a suit for damages as leverage.  With this Case Law, it will be stupid to 'fight' as the smaller vendors don't have the war chest and can look at PsyStar as an example of fighting to the grave with Apple's Legal team.

 

and all of Apple's other patents just increased in perceived validity as well. Apple acting to defend it's patents (and not compromise out of court) basically says tells all that now that Apple plays the game to win.   That said, Samsung had every opportunity to save face before this trial started. 

 

1 Billion may not be much ($1 per share) in the Apple Ledger, but it funds the legal warchest, and also defines the risk to all other Android OEMs.  

post #50 of 162
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The real question now is will Apple take the high road, and lock in the win they have made in this case and offer to cross license technology with their partner, Samsung.  There is plenty of money to be made by both parties.  The smartphone and tablet markets taken together is the largest market by gross product that has ever been conceived of.  Hundreds of billions of Dollars of profits are on the table at this point.  A simple effort to avoid infringing on each other's trade dress, and a cross license of all technical and software patents would be a huge win for both Apple and Samsung.  Please remember that Apple never made any great products until they quit fighting Microsoft and put the heart and soul of the company into the effort to make new products for the "digital life"

Yes I think they will cross-license, they already offered to do that before the case I believe. When Microsoft copied the Mac and made "Windows" (a nice generic name for a generic copy), Apple sued them and won too, but later cross-licensed.

post #51 of 162
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I am curious to know where this leaves Android? Surely Apple can now go after all the iOS IP Google stole covered by this trial.

Yes,

 

this was just the opening battle/shot across the bow of a much larger target - if I were Google - I'd be lawyering up right now...

 

YOU'RE NEXT GOOGLE!

post #52 of 162
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I believe the strategy is to go after the profits... Google makes none on the Android code, therefore the OEMs are the target, since they are the final 'coders' of the device, and build the HW and UI.   Don't know how that plays in the Moto Mobility side of the game.

My guess is that any actively sold device with this IP will be C&Ded  in the US immediately, With Apple using a suit for damages as leverage.  With this Case Law, it will be stupid to 'fight' as the smaller vendors don't have the war chest and can look at PsyStar as an example of fighting to the grave with Apple's Legal team.

and all of Apple's other patents just increased in perceived validity as well. Apple acting to defend it's patents (and not compromise out of court) basically says tells all that now that Apple plays the game to win.   That said, Samsung had every opportunity to save face before this trial started. 

1 Billion may not be much ($1 per share) in the Apple Ledger, but it funds the legal warchest, and also defines the risk to all other Android OEMs.  

That's my feeling. I'd bet anything that Samsung offered Apple a lot more for a settlement than they ever hoped to win from the court but by making a precedent there will be a lot less companies infringing and Apple could finally get some licenses paid for that they tried to do before all this took place.

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post #53 of 162

I suspect Motorola may find itself on the wrong end of one of these suits soon, especially given their abuse of FRAND patents in courts all over the world. That $12B investment is looking worse and worse for Google.

post #54 of 162
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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

I am curious to know where this leaves Android? Surely Apple can now go after all the iOS IP Google stole covered by this trial.

 

If Apple's win can prevent manufacturers from feeling safe from litigation when they power up their phones and tablets using Android, then Apple can dry up the support for Android-based devices. Alternately, this can force Android to drop any UI features that will get the manufacturers into litigation, thus making the Android OS less enjoyable to use.

 

Additionally, several court cases, including this one, have shown that Google is not capable of protecting the manufacturers as once thought. Therefore, choosing the "FREE" Android as an OS is proving to be very very expensive. 

 

Finally, with this court win, Apple is able to finally show and monetize the lose of profits. That may finally open up Google to be liable for each copy of Android they gave away. 

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post #55 of 162
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I think on an Apple centric news aggregator like this it is worth noting that Samsung is more than just a copy cat.  They make high quality products, especially components in cellphones, and they take pride in the quality of the products they make.  Culturally, they do not "see" that copying the "best" in a competitors product is anything more than competition.  You need to do more than just dismiss Samsung as "Samesung".  You need to realize that there are a lot of people who honestly believe we would be better off if Samsung could make their high quality knock offs.  Many of those people feel that technology improvements and small businesses would benefit if IP rules made it much harder to obtain a patent.  If you think that it is okay to download stolen software, music, or porn then you probably shouldn't be angry at Samsung.  I actually think the price Samsung paid is in line with what should be reasonable for the actions they took.  I don't think suing some kid for tens of thousands of dollars for downloading a few songs is reasonable.  People that run servers that actively benefit from showing stolen products should be hit much harder.  That is my view and it is pretty consistent with what I believe to be fair and reasonable.  

 

Apple still needs Samsung to make the high quality parts that are used in the iPhone.  There is an extensive class of patents which Samsung uses to make those products which Apple has been benefiting from.  If you have been paying attention to the news you would realize that Apple has had big quality issues with the LG panels being used to build the new retina macbook pro.  Apple should be willing to settle this dispute with Samsung without hanging all of their business on the results from this one case.  One of the best bloggers on the web, Asymco's Horace Deidu, made the point that suing your competitor for IP infringements like this is not a good business plan. When pressed to comment on the odds of Apple winning this lawsuit Horace replied: "Again, I don’t have an opinion on legal matters. Broadly speaking, IP litigation is similar to playing the lottery."  Apple has now made the point that it should not be copied directly and protected their intellectual property rights.  The real question now is will Apple take the high road, and lock in the win they have made in this case and offer to cross license technology with their partner, Samsung.  There is plenty of money to be made by both parties.  The smartphone and tablet markets taken together is the largest market by gross product that has ever been conceived of.  Hundreds of billions of Dollars of profits are on the table at this point.  A simple effort to avoid infringing on each other's trade dress, and a cross license of all technical and software patents would be a huge win for both Apple and Samsung.  Please remember that Apple never made any great products until they quit fighting Microsoft and put the heart and soul of the company into the effort to make new products for the "digital life"

 

Before initiating the lawsuits, Jobs went to Samsung and requested that they stop copying Apple's designs.  Samsung refused.  Apple has offered to license at least some of its patents to Samsung.  Samsung has said no.  Apple has taken the high road.  But, you cannot expect them to roll over and play dead when their intellectual property is being stolen.

 

I have a high regard for Horace Deidu, but suing your competitor for IP infringements is a perfectly good business plan when all attempts at reaching an amicable solution have failed.

post #56 of 162
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Originally Posted by amoradala View Post

"It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rounded corners and rectangles."

 

What incredible arrogance and ignorance.

A disgusting company !

Arrogant, ignorant, and disgusting is exactly right.

 

Kind of ironic too, since the one Apple claim with which the jury did not agree was the one relating to "rectangle with rounded corners!"

post #57 of 162

It's hard to loose face isn't it Samsung?
 

post #58 of 162
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I think on an Apple centric news aggregator like this it is worth noting that Samsung is more than just a copy cat.  
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I agree that Samsung do make good quality parts. I would rather see them settle indeed than having lawsuit after lawsuit all over the world. Apple is trying to get rid of Samsung as a suppliers but apparently its no picnic.

Imo Samsung should do like microsoft and make a deal with Apple if they want to use there patents.
post #59 of 162
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That's my feeling. I'd bet anything that Samsung offered Apple a lot more for a settlement than they ever hoped to win from the court but by making a precedent there will be a lot less companies infringing and Apple could finally get some licenses paid for that they tried to do before all this took place.

Very good point and I completely agree with you!

post #60 of 162
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so what Sammy's saying is that we don't know how to move mobile design/innovations forward without Apple showing us the way. Even though we've been in the biz longer than Apple has, we don't know anything.

Yup that pretty much sums it up. Taking a page from Apple's book would've been forgivable but not taking the entire books. There are plenty of other touchscreen phones and tablets that aren't a near exact copy of Apple's devices.
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post #61 of 162

This is a win for the United States vs the foreign countries who steal from it. Apple is an American company that and Americans should all treat it as a win for our nation.

post #62 of 162
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Yes I think they will cross-license, they already offered to do that before the case I believe. When Microsoft copied the Mac and made "Windows" (a nice generic name for a generic copy), Apple sued them and won too, but later cross-licensed.

I have to give Apple credit for attempting to license their UI to Samsung and avoid litigation. I personally never thought they would do that (even with Microsoft). It was a good gesture of them to appear to be reasonable. Samsung may not be offered the licensing agreement again. Nor do I think Apple will necessarily make that offer to other, smaller manufacturers. Winning this lawsuit strengthens Apple and changes everything.

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post #63 of 162

busted...

 

 

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When pressed to comment on the odds of Apple winning this lawsuit Horace replied: "Again, I don’t have an opinion on legal matters. Broadly speaking, IP litigation is similar to playing the lottery."  

 

Apple has now made the point that it should not be copied directly and protected their intellectual property rights.  

 

The real question now is will Apple take the high road, and lock in the win they have made in this case and offer to cross license technology with their partner, Samsung.  There is plenty of money to be made by both parties.  

 

The smartphone and tablet markets taken together is the largest market by gross product that has ever been conceived of.  Hundreds of billions of Dollars of profits are on the table at this point.

 

 A simple effort to avoid infringing on each other's trade dress, and a cross license of all technical and software patents would be a huge win for both Apple and Samsung.  

 

Please remember that Apple never made any great products until they quit fighting Microsoft and put the heart and soul of the company into the effort to make new products for the "digital life"

 

The problem with Horace's analogy is that there are billions of losing outcomes in a lottery.  In a court case, there are only 2:  lose, and split decision.  Apple had done all the good faith stuff up front.  It had lived the good life.  Their odds were better than a Lottery.    Also, Apple was playing with money it could lose, and it was money well spent in that defending your IP is important in all other IP cases (both in legal, and perception of the litigant).

 

It was Samsung that was shown as willfully avoiding any sort of 'partnership,' hence the claim they willfully infringed... this wasn't accidental.  You want Apple to say all is forgiven?   The High road is pure capitalism... if you can build something that is innovative and is less expensive, it will drive Apple to do the same, and that consumer benefit of innovation and low cost will be achieved. 

 

Profits... Build a better tablet/phone, and you'll share in the profits...  Apple wants to compete, not build a cartel, as you propose.  

 

Cross Licensing works when there is legitimate means to gain mutual advantage.  There was no advantage in Samsung's portfolio.  You gotta have something to trade.

 

Point Last:  Apple stopped trying to be a computer company fighting for corporate 'least cost' bids.  Apple/NeXT made innovative products, it was just hamstrung with the 'just good enough' corporate crapware that the MS OEM model forced on us all.    The race to the bottom was a no-win situation for the underdog.   Apple just realized that winning wasn't 'seats', but it was building compelling product in markets where none existed, and where the user was the decision maker not the corporate purchasing agent.

post #65 of 162
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

If Apple's win can prevent manufacturers from feeling safe from litigation when they power up their phones and tablets using Android, then Apple can dry up the support for Android-based devices. Alternately, this can force Android to drop any UI features that will get the manufacturers into litigation, thus making the Android OS less enjoyable to use.

Additionally, several court cases, including this one, have shown that Google is not capable of protecting the manufacturers as once thought. Therefore, choosing the "FREE" Android as an OS is proving to be very very expensive. 

Finally, with this court win, Apple is able to finally show and monetize the lose of profits. That may finally open up Google to be liable for each copy of Android they gave away. 

I understand what you're getting at but this suit was more about the look of Samsung's devices. With each iteration the Android OS moves further away from iOS.
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post #66 of 162
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Imo Samsung should do like microsoft and make a deal with Apple if they want to use there patents.

 

Apple is not a 'licensing' business.  It may license underlying technology where it's not germaine to the experience, but core experience IP will likely be protected until someone forces FRAND on them (as Google is asking).

post #67 of 162

I wonder if this will make Motorola Google rethink their current litigation starting up

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busted...

 

 

 

Awesome!

post #69 of 162

Samsung marketing.  WTF are they thinking?   Samsung and Google can't think of something more original than badly copying Apple.

 

How is copying innovating?

Personally, I am surprised Samsung and others haven't been sued for false advertising.  They mention their products are "upgradeable" with the use of SD memory.  I am still trying to figure out how that is an "upgrade".  SSD is different than SD memory, but it sounds like Samsung and others market it as if it is the same.  The average consumer doesn't know the difference.

post #70 of 162

From what I can see Apple gave Samsung the chance to pay the royalties up front and Samsung said no.  They were willing to take this chance.  They lost.  That's business.

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Am I the only one who hates the Samesung, Samscum, Scamsung, et al. comments. I guess I just don't see it as clever or original to use these well worn puns. I'd rather see something original even if the attempt at being funny or clever failed, or a cogent argument as to why they are scummy, copyists.
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post #72 of 162

Samsung, innovate? I believe not. And Apple will not raise their prices on their phones or iPads.

post #73 of 162

Even now they are whining and complaining, whats sad here is that there are people out there who believe the stuff they are saying. People who actually think Samsung is a victim of corrupt patent laws and a corrupt legal system, They believe not only that samsung is innocent of copying apple but that apple has infringed on samsung's patents as well. They actually believe this whole thing was about patenting a rectangle and anticompetitiveness, and done out of fear of competition.

 

Its so very sad to me that people are actually this dim witted.

post #74 of 162
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Originally Posted by Macnewsjunkie View Post

I think on an Apple centric news aggregator like this it is worth noting that Samsung is more than just a copy cat.  They make high quality products, especially components in cellphones, and they take pride in the quality of the products they make.  Culturally, they do not "see" that copying the "best" in a competitors product is anything more than competition.  You need to do more than just dismiss Samsung as "Samesung".  You need to realize that there are a lot of people who honestly believe we would be better off if Samsung could make their high quality knock offs.  Many of those people feel that technology improvements and small businesses would benefit if IP rules made it much harder to obtain a patent.  If you think that it is okay to download stolen software, music, or porn then you probably shouldn't be angry at Samsung.  I actually think the price Samsung paid is in line with what should be reasonable for the actions they took.  I don't think suing some kid for tens of thousands of dollars for downloading a few songs is reasonable.  People that run servers that actively benefit from showing stolen products should be hit much harder.  That is my view and it is pretty consistent with what I believe to be fair and reasonable.  

 

Apple still needs Samsung to make the high quality parts that are used in the iPhone.  There is an extensive class of patents which Samsung uses to make those products which Apple has been benefiting from.  If you have been paying attention to the news you would realize that Apple has had big quality issues with the LG panels being used to build the new retina macbook pro.  Apple should be willing to settle this dispute with Samsung without hanging all of their business on the results from this one case.  One of the best bloggers on the web, Asymco's Horace Deidu, made the point that suing your competitor for IP infringements like this is not a good business plan. When pressed to comment on the odds of Apple winning this lawsuit Horace replied: "Again, I don’t have an opinion on legal matters. Broadly speaking, IP litigation is similar to playing the lottery."  Apple has now made the point that it should not be copied directly and protected their intellectual property rights.  The real question now is will Apple take the high road, and lock in the win they have made in this case and offer to cross license technology with their partner, Samsung.  There is plenty of money to be made by both parties.  The smartphone and tablet markets taken together is the largest market by gross product that has ever been conceived of.  Hundreds of billions of Dollars of profits are on the table at this point.  A simple effort to avoid infringing on each other's trade dress, and a cross license of all technical and software patents would be a huge win for both Apple and Samsung.  Please remember that Apple never made any great products until they quit fighting Microsoft and put the heart and soul of the company into the effort to make new products for the "digital life"

What chip patents does Apple use?  SSD memory and RAM memory that Samsung makes is the same as others, they just have more fab centers to crank them out.  Apple designs their own ARM processors and Samsung just mfg them.  Samsung panels?  Their AMOLED are not that good, they are subject to burn in far easier than LCD and Samsung uses those panels in their own Smartphones and Tablets.

 

I looked at their previous Flagship SmartTV, the D8000 series. I looked at a tear down and their power supplies are mediocre.  But that's what people have to expect at that price point.  I consider Samsung just another run in the mill Asian electronics company with better than average build quality, but not much more than that.  They don't have the HIGH END product quality, they have med product quality, IMO.  In their appliance division, there are others that are better quality.  TVs, there are others with better build quality.  Computers, they aren't the highest quality.

 

I see them very similar to that of Hyundai.  They may look kind of like a Mercedes, but they aren't a Mercedes.

 

Apple needed a new design team and they needed to get Mac OS to be Unix which they did, but once they got their direction, they are just constantly getting better.

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Am I the only one who hates the Samesung, Samscum, Scamsung, et al. comments. I guess I just don't see it as clever or original to use these well worn puns.

I agree it's a bit stale if you've seen it a few times. But for those who haven't, it is still funny and clever, I would assume. (In fact, I thought that it brilliant in the image in the 'busted' post above, with the 'E' hidden behind the Android's now chopped off head).

 

In any event, are you now taking on the role of style advisor?

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Agreed.  I am in the market for a new fridge...it won't be a Samsung.

Thats interesting. I was just looking at new fridges, and ovens. I shied away from Samsung myself! I'm actually looking at the GE stuff that they shifted back to the US. Those, and LG and Bosch.

post #77 of 162

When it is all boiled down we see the farcical legal system that has been created to protect the 'interests' of corporations, rather than the interests of inventors and the consumers of technology products. So don't blame Apple for screwing Samsung to the floor boards, blame the legal system that ties inventors and product developers in knots, not to mention prevents the distribution of effective medicines to Third World countries, and allows the patenting of human genes that inhibit ground-breaking scientific research.

 

If the world contained half as many patent lawyers, and twice as many scientists and engineers actually doing basic and applied research, and inventing new technologies and products, we would all be far better off.

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Agreed.  I am in the market for a new fridge...it won't be a Samsung.

Good point. Will GE now sue Samsung? I have all GE appliances but even though I am obligated to buy them because of a family employment/investment situation I think the GE appliances are terrible. I have had nothing but problems with the Cafe line I purchased. My friends who have Samsung kitchen equipment  are very satisfied with them.

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Am I the only one who hates the Samesung, Samscum, Scamsung, et al. comments. I guess I just don't see it as clever or original to use these well worn puns. I'd rather see something original even if the attempt at being funny or clever failed, or a cogent argument as to why they are scummy, copyists.

I'm certainly guilt of using those puns. I personally like "Scamscum" but I think it's more representitive of a company many people now truly hate. I certainly do. When I see any product nowadays with a Samsung logo on it, I just kind of smirk and shake my head in disappointment.

As far as I'm concerned, using those puns will hopefully result in Google results on "Samsung" returns these puns. One can only hope!

Samsung is the one that started it, hence the results.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I agree it's a bit stale if you've seen it a few times. But for those who haven't, it is still funny and clever, I would assume. (In fact, I thought that it brilliant in the image in the 'busted' post above, with the 'E' hidden behind the Android's now chopped off head).

In any event, are you now taking on the role of style advisor?

The image is alright because it's doing something different. I'm just talking in general.

I have opinions and thoughts on things. I certainly don't expect my opinions, especially on petty matters like this, to be canon. I simply think it detracts from any attempt at a cogent comment in the same you know anyone who uses Crapple and iSheep is not going to have much to add to a conversation.

This forum has the best members of any site so perhaps I am putting too much of a burden on this topic. This is a day for rejoicing, for justice for anyone who cares about intellectual property so I recant my initial comment.

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