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Who says it's a response to what others are doing? It was reported here not that long ago that Jobs did NOT have a strong objection to a 7" tablet. His comments were largely marketing oriented.
The most likely scenario to me is that Apple had a smaller tablet in the back of their minds all along but decided to concentrate on one size to get the market moving and will add the smaller one on their own timetable.
Not even close to being true.
Apple has something like 60-65% of the tablet market. The remaining 35-40% is almost all either 7" or 10". I don't have a breakdown, but everything I've seen myself is that a large fraction of the non-Apple tablets are 7" - like the Amazon Fire, for example. So something like 20+% of the tablet market is 7" - and that's even when there are no good 7" tablets. If Apple introduces one, they could capture a large chunk of that, plus the people who want 7" but don't have a good option.
Furthermore, your story keeps changing. Before, you were saying that they would sell OK, but that they're crap. Now you're saying that they're not going to sell.
The fact is that there's no doubt that Apple could produce a good 7-8" tablet. They make a 3.5" iPhone/iPod Touch and a 10" tablet and both are recognized as the best in the market. You haven't given a single reason why they can't make a good 8" tablet. All of your arguments (like "it's too small to type") are thoroughly debunked by the success of the iPhone/iPod Touch.
As usual, you're simply ignoring that a reasonable number of people here say that they'd buy a 7" iPad Mini. There's also the fact that a reasonable percentage of others already buy 7" tablets - even though the ones that are available today are crap.

So answer me this, would Apple be making a 7-8" tablet if none existed from other manufacturers? I've posted comments of SJ where he vehemently denied considered making a smaller tablet. Until proven otherwise I'll believe the comments I've found.
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So answer me this, would Apple be making a 7-8" tablet if none existed from other manufacturers?

What difference does it it make? A lot of people obviously want a smaller tablet. Why not provide one that is compatible with the Apple ecosystem. Seems logical. You get a lot of new first time Apple buyers and a lot of long time Apple buyers like me all wanting the new iPad mini, all for various reasons. Personally I just want improved portability so I welcome the new size. I already have an iPhone and an iPad and a MBP.

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So answer me this, would Apple be making a 7-8" tablet if none existed from other manufacturers? I've posted comments of SJ where he vehemently denied considered making a smaller tablet. Until proven otherwise I'll believe the comments I've found.

Absolutely.  And if he were alive he'd be roaming the stage in Oct waving the mini with a big s*^t eating grin.   First due was the size we know, so let's not distract the public with too much variety, besides I'll tell them what they need.    Later for other sizes.  And, as I posted earlier, SJ's comments seem in retrospect more obviously a reality distortion sales pitch (not that I'm against RD : )  ) based on what was coming down the pike than anything he truly believed in.  Jobs' remarks sometimes do end up in that category historically, and he wasn't a pusher of truth, he was a pusher of Apple.

 

Again, I'm a fan of Apple and Jobs, don't get me wrong, but his word was as sales pitch not explaining the whys and hows of technology options.

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What difference does it it make? A lot of people obviously want a smaller tablet. Why not provide one that is compatible with the Apple ecosystem. Seems logical. You get a lot of new first time Apple buyers and a lot of long time Apple buyers like me all wanting the new iPad mini, all for various reasons. Personally I just want improved portability so I welcome the new size. I already have an iPhone and an iPad and a MBP.

Name me one time Apple did something because it was what the people wanted? People would buy Macs by the truckload if they priced them to compete with PCs. All of a sudden the years and years the R&D department spent working on the iPad to find the ideal size is wrong?
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Name me one time Apple did something because it was what the people wanted? People would buy Macs by the truckload if they priced them to compete with PCs. All of a sudden the years and years the R&D department spent working on the iPad to find the ideal size is wrong?

Apple also has a record of discontinuing products that don't sell well so if the iPad mini does not sell well it will be discontinued.

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Name me one time Apple did something because it was what the people wanted? People would buy Macs by the truckload if they priced them to compete with PCs. All of a sudden the years and years the R&D department spent working on the iPad to find the ideal size is wrong?

This has nothing to do with the original iPad size being "wrong".  It has only to do with another, new, additional model.

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This has nothing to do with the original iPad size being "wrong".  It has only to do with another, new, additional model.

 

I think he may be referring to the fact that when the iPad was first rumoured, a lot of people argued that it was too big and that it should have been in the 8" (diagonal) size instead.  So in many ways the iPad mini is the rediscovery of a size format that lots of people thought the iPad should be in the first place.  

 

I think it will be an interesting product.  One the one hand it will be cheap and "for kids" but on the other hand, in many ways it will be a sort of "iPad Pro."  It won't be very useful to type on the thing in landscape mode and there probably won't be any keyboard cases either, so ... since all the pro users tend to use the iPad "naked," (without keyboards, keyboard cases etc.), it may end up being far better for mobile typing (thumb typing), than even the original iPad is. 

 

It may end up being a far better design for those that want to do actual work with an iPad, even as it's a better consumption device at the same time.  It may end up that the bigger "regular" iPad is the one your grandma might use, and the real pros use a mini.  

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That is a good point. Also the smaller iPad probably isn't ideal for education anyway. The current iPad size is much better for simulating a textbook like experience. A smaller iPad is going to require a lot of zooming and panning like the iPhone. Pricing is going to be a challenge since all the devices essentially do the same thing with slightly different size screens. From a BOM standpoint they probably don't vary that much aside from Retina iPad. Perhaps they will keep the iPad 2 around as well for the education model. I'm not sure if Apple will use cheaper parts in the iPad mini or not, but I for one hope they at least offer a top of the line version with cellular. That is what I want. If it comes out as a cheap plastic crippled entry level device I probably won't buy it.

 

My hope is that Apple views the market as diversified for size requirements, not tiered price points. There are different situations where an iPhone is the best device and others where a full size iPad is better and still others where a smaller iPad would be ideal. The differentiation should be based on screen presentation requirements not price point. Within each model there should be price tiers obviously, but I don't want a cheap iPad mini built using cheap parts or by intentionally crippling the features.

I could see them positioning the iPad 2 as an education device, and the iPad 3 as more of a "Pro" device to differentiate from the Mini. The Mini will probably be more of an every mans tablet.

 

Even next year when a new iPad comes out Apple will probably keep the iPad 2 around as an education model, like they did with white MacBooks and the eMac all those years ago.

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Even next year when a new iPad comes out Apple will probably keep the iPad 2 around as an education model, like they did with white MacBooks and the eMac all those years ago.

That's the way I see it with the iPad 2. The iPad Retina gets replaced with the iPad 4 and the iPad 2 stays around to provide in inexpensive education model. That will only work for one more year though as the software will begin to outpace the iPad 2 capabilities. I wonder if they could then begin a cycle where they actually swap out the screen of the out going iPad each year to a non retina to keep the price down. At least until Retina production efficiencies reach a cost per unit level that could accommodate having Retina even in a lower priced year old edu model.

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I often wonder if the people who claim a 7 or 8" iPad would be too small have ever used a Kindle or a similar eReader.

I'm looking at this as someone who owns a full range of iOS and OS X products (including an iPad), as well as a cheap 7" Android tablet. The 7" tablet is a superior format for reading, and for carrying around. Despite protestations to the contrary, it absolutely does fit in pockets and other storage areas that the iPad will not -- including the back pocket of my size 32 jeans. People don't carry 10" x12" hardcover books around with them everywhere they go, but they'll certainly take that paperback they're reading on the bus, train, to the park, beach, etc, etc... That's certainly my case. The iPad stays at home, ALWAYS, and the Android tablet comes with me everywhere.

That doesn't mean I like Android. It sucks. I hate it. It is a good eReader, but it's not very good at much else. I absolutely would prefer an iOS device, just not at the expense of giving up the superior form factor of the 7" device.
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Name me one time Apple did something because it was what the people wanted? People would buy Macs by the truckload if they priced them to compete with PCs. All of a sudden the years and years the R&D department spent working on the iPad to find the ideal size is wrong?

That's begging the question.

Who says Apple would do it because it was what the people wanted? Maybe they simply see the value of having two sizes instead of one. Maybe they planned from the start to eventually introduce a smaller tablet, but the technology to do it well wasn't there yet.
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So answer me this, would Apple be making a 7-8" tablet if none existed from other manufacturers? I've posted comments of SJ where he vehemently denied considered making a smaller tablet. Until proven otherwise I'll believe the comments I've found.

Please provide the evidence that he "vehemently denied" even considering a smaller tablet. One Apple employee already stated that Jobs was NOT strongly opposed and did not reject it out of hand. His famous sandpaper argument was clearly marketing hype.

Furthermore, in case you hadn't noticed, Jobs isn't there any more.

To answer your first question, I don't see any reason to think that they wouldn't consider a smaller tablet even if there were none on the market. Consider the MacBook Air. When it was launched, there was absolutely nothing on the market like it - and they released two sizes.

There's still nothing on the market like the 27" iMac - and they sell a smaller size, as well.

Whether someone else was there first, it's absolutely logical to consider whether there's a market for something in between the 10" iPad and the 3.5" iPhone (or even a 4-4.5" phone if that's what they're working on). It certainly isn't a revelation that had to come from a competitor.
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post #172 of 208

After looking at the rendering I wonder, since the side bezels are so narrow, if they will be designing it for use with Smart Cover or not. Perhaps it is not necessary and a straight cover like iPad 1  will be sufficient.  In some ways I liked that cover style better than the smart cover in conjunction with a back cover that I am now using on my iPad 3

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I'm still a little confused how the iPod touch fits into the price matrix...

IPod touch 4.4" retina screen 8GB, wifi - $199
IPad 7.85" retina(?) screen 16GB wifi - $299(?) $249(?)
iPad 2 10" non retina 16GB ... 399
IPad 3 10" retina 16GB $499

I guess it works ... I can't see them going below $249 otherwise it screws with the touch too much... even tho the market for a 4" device and a 7" device are quite different it's kinda hard seeing you can get 2x the screen size and 2x the storage for 50 bucks more ... or the same price if they try to hit that 199 mark... Something I just don't see them doing.

As it is I don't see the 8GB touch surviving at the current price. Its feels like they'd have to make athe touch 8GB @ 149 and bring the 16 down to 199.

If they could bring the 8GB touch down to 99 it would be just as 'major' as bringing out an iPod @ 199. The kids would go totally nuts and every one of em would have one under the tree this December.
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Originally Posted by gwmac View Post
In a year or two we might be having the exact same discussion about rumors of a larger iPad around 13" 

 

I sure hope so. I might be in the market for an upgrade right around then, and I'm wishing occasionally that my iPad was larger already.

 

And mstone raised another good point about education with the bit about panning that got me thinking:

 

Textbooks. They'll all need to be redone for a smaller iPad, even if it's the same aspect ratio. The text can't be TOO small, meaning less text per page, meaning all the pages will have to be reformatted, with images (and their subtitle boxes) resized, etc. 

 

Now, you want to think about how insignificant this is. And I know where you're coming from; every time Apple releases a new resolution, developers just take it in stride. And with the 6th iPhone, they'll have to work with a wider screen—potentially three aspect ratios at once (3:2, 4:3, and 16:9) for compatibility with all of Apple's devices. 


But apps and books are different. Take a gander at the eBook industry. The GOOD eBook industry. There's not much going on there. Apps have absolutely exploded in the four (yes, just four!) years since the first meaningful App Store.

 

But books? No. And it's because the publishers hate change. More than that, they haven't shown they know how to properly content-enrich digital copies of physical books, so there's no real value reason other than PHYSICAL space (and crazy-simple searchability) to buy the digital versions! Take the Steve Jobs biography. The physical one has pictures in the back. That's a nice little intimate peek into his life. So you'd figure the digital copy could take that further. Maybe a home video, maybe an audio clip of Steve Jobs himself, or maybe, just maybe, those same photos (not even MORE photos) at a resolution even close to passable! Nope. The physical book's pictures look better than the digital one's. 

 

They just don't know what to do with the format! Same with magazine makers. You see terrible reviews for Newsstand magazines all the time, citing lack of interactivity, extra content, and what have you over the print version when the format is SO much better suited for that!

 

They could be making it so that instead of the static regular print ads just digitized, all ads in the magazine are replaced with iAds that change over time! So, and listen to this, so they could be remonetizing people reading old issues. Infinite ads, but only one "printing".

 

But I'm getting off on a tangent. I apologize. Back to the publishers and their unwillingness to change.

 

Apple has created a spectacular gateway into beautiful, rich-content eBooks. It's only a first step (definitely only a first step), but it's the right way to move forward. The more work Apple puts into it, the more the barrier of unwillingness gets torn away as ease of creation increases. I don't think that jamming an extra form factor in the mix would be the best idea right now, particularly in the field of textbooks.


Originally Posted by gwmac View Post
They could solve the problem of the iPod touch pricing problem via the new mini iPad by simply adding a memory slot.

 

This is Apple, you remember. You have options to double storage, they're just at point of purchase. I hope that NAND chip prices just start to drop precipitously to help remove this concern from the equation. For those following that part of the industry, is there any indication thereof?

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post #175 of 208
The world needs a new iMac before it needs a miniPad.
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That's begging the question.
Who says Apple would do it because it was what the people wanted? Maybe they simply see the value of having two sizes instead of one. Maybe they planned from the start to eventually introduce a smaller tablet, but the technology to do it well wasn't there yet.
Please provide the evidence that he "vehemently denied" even considering a smaller tablet. One Apple employee already stated that Jobs was NOT strongly opposed and did not reject it out of hand. His famous sandpaper argument was clearly marketing hype.
Furthermore, in case you hadn't noticed, Jobs isn't there any more.
To answer your first question, I don't see any reason to think that they wouldn't consider a smaller tablet even if there were none on the market. Consider the MacBook Air. When it was launched, there was absolutely nothing on the market like it - and they released two sizes.
There's still nothing on the market like the 27" iMac - and they sell a smaller size, as well.
Whether someone else was there first, it's absolutely logical to consider whether there's a market for something in between the 10" iPad and the 3.5" iPhone (or even a 4-4.5" phone if that's what they're working on). It certainly isn't a revelation that had to come from a competitor.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/113922/steve-jobs-squashes-rumors-of-smaller-7-inch-ipad
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Exactly. But we have to remember that he's dead. If they want to do something they couldn't (and all that that implies) before, they can now.

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The world needs a new iMac before it needs a miniPad.

When the moderator gives props to trolls, I know this thread has gone way off the reservation and considerably north of crazy town.

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Exactly. But we have to remember that he's dead. If they want to do something they couldn't (and all that that implies) before, they can now.

Who exactly is they?
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So answer me this, would Apple be making a 7-8" tablet if none existed from other manufacturers? I've posted comments of SJ where he vehemently denied considered making a smaller tablet. Until proven otherwise I'll believe the comments I've found.

Why not? They made a 10" tablet when none existed from other manufacturers.
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So you choose a marketing presentation at the time they were launching a 10" tablet as your evidence? What would you expect him to say when launching a 10"? That the 7" tablets on the market are all great products?

Furthermore, Jobs had a history of bad-mouthing something right up to the point where Apple released it.

Why not look at what he said in private?
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/08/03/steve_jobs_was_very_receptive_to_7_inch_ipad_idea_court_documents_show.html
Jobs was apparently very receptive to the idea of a 7" tablet. So regardless of what he said when trying to convince people to buy his 10" tablet, he really didn't have a problem with a smaller one.

And, again, in case you hadn't noticed, Jobs is not running Apple any more.
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When the moderator gives props to trolls, I know this thread has gone way off the reservation and considerably north of crazy town.

Well, you have a moderator who absolutely refuses to believe that anyone else but him is entitled to an opinion. He doesn't think there's a place for a smaller iPad and no matter how many people say otherwise, he insists that he's right and they're wrong. Not surprising that he'd back a troll who also refuses to accept the idea of Apple doing something that he doesn't like.
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post
When the moderator gives props to trolls, I know this thread has gone way off the reservation and considerably north of crazy town.

 

How does that saying go… "Listen to the words of the madman without treating them as such. While the words themselves may not be mad, that does not, then, make the man sane."


Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post
Who exactly is they?

 

Apple's current executive team.


Originally Posted by jragosta View Post
Well, you have a moderator who absolutely refuses to believe that anyone else but him is entitled to an opinion. He doesn't think there's a place for a smaller iPad and no matter how many people say otherwise, he insists that he's right and they're wrong. Not surprising that he'd back a troll who also refuses to accept the idea of Apple doing something that he doesn't like.
 

It's a shame this is full of so many outright lies; it's probably a good position otherwise. 

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So you choose a marketing presentation at the time they were launching a 10" tablet as your evidence? What would you expect him to say when launching a 10"? That the 7" tablets on the market are all great products?
Furthermore, Jobs had a history of bad-mouthing something right up to the point where Apple released it.
Why not look at what he said in private?
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/08/03/steve_jobs_was_very_receptive_to_7_inch_ipad_idea_court_documents_show.html
Jobs was apparently very receptive to the idea of a 7" tablet. So regardless of what he said when trying to convince people to buy his 10" tablet, he really didn't have a problem with a smaller one.
And, again, in case you hadn't noticed, Jobs is not running Apple any more.

Where in that article does it have a quote from SJ in private?
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Why isn't that the iPad 2 and iPad 3 next year? If they keep to their current hardware tiering, the iPad 2 will be the same price as a 7" one would be.

10" makes very difficult having a good profit after 399$, the 7" allows for low price and good profit.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post
Where in that article does it have a quote from SJ in private?

 

Also note that Jobs isn't CC'd on the e-mail itself, which seems odd.

 

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10" makes very difficult having a good profit after 399$, the 7" allows for low price and good profit.
 

When it's two years past its prime, it doesn't need to have the same profit per device (though there is profit on every device) as during its primary run. The iPhone 3GS is free on contract. Apple still makes money on every one sold. 

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That's the way I see it with the iPad 2. The iPad Retina gets replaced with the iPad 4 and the iPad 2 stays around to provide in inexpensive education model. That will only work for one more year though as the software will begin to outpace the iPad 2 capabilities. I wonder if they could then begin a cycle where they actually swap out the screen of the out going iPad each year to a non retina to keep the price down. At least until Retina production efficiencies reach a cost per unit level that could accommodate having Retina even in a lower priced year old edu model.

When iPad 4 comes out iPad 3 will take the place of ipad 2. Apple does not want to maintain older hardware only the 3GS iPhone has survive this long so it can compete with the free android phones in the market.
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Might an iPad mini like this be more comfortable/convenient to hold?

 

 

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Originally Posted by ShAdOwXPR View Post
When iPad 4 comes out iPad 3 will take the place of ipad 2. Apple does not want to maintain older hardware only the 3GS iPhone has survive this long so it can compete with the free android phones in the market.

 

Take the place of, sure. But don't be so quick to dismiss the iPad 2 from the market. I made the same mistake with the 3GS at the 4S' launch. It's quite possible they'll bump the iPad 2 down even further, to reiterate, to $299. iPad 3'll be $399.

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Well, you have a moderator who absolutely refuses to believe that anyone else but him is entitled to an opinion. He doesn't think there's a place for a smaller iPad and no matter how many people say otherwise, he insists that he's right and they're wrong. Not surprising that he'd back a troll who also refuses to accept the idea of Apple doing something that he doesn't like.

If you're referring to me I never said it wasn't a good idea just that I don't see Apple doing it.
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Where in that article does it have a quote from SJ in private?

The email is from Eddy Cue and he says that Jobs was very receptive to the idea.

And I can guarantee that Eddy Cue knew Jobs' attitudes somewhere between 20 million and 100 million times better than you do.
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If you're referring to me I never said it wasn't a good idea just that I don't see Apple doing it.

Unless you suddenly became a moderator, I clearly wasn't referring to you.
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post
And I can guarantee that Eddy Cue knew Jobs' attitudes somewhere between 20 million and 100 million times better than you do.

 

Agreed, minus hyperbole. And I can guarantee you that when a megalomaniacal, precision-driven, nit-picking, approve-everything CEO isn't CC'd on an e-mail, there's probably a reason.

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Predictable.  And boring.

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Predictable.  And boring.

 

Very self-descriptive.

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Unless you suddenly became a moderator, I clearly wasn't referring to you.

No, he was asking if he was the troll you referred to that Tallest Skil was backing.  See you can make a mistake and the world didn't stop spinning.

We've always been at war with Eastasia...

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We've always been at war with Eastasia...

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Agreed, minus hyperbole. And I can guarantee you that when a megalomaniacal, precision-driven, nit-picking, approve-everything CEO isn't CC'd on an e-mail, there's probably a reason.

Why don't you explain what that reason is? You apparently know everything. /s

Let me try:
1. Eddy Cue was flat out lying and completely misrepresented everything Jobs said. Yet he got to keep his job. And there's no evidence to support your allegation that he was lying.

2. Apple executives probably collectively send thousands of emails every week. There was no reason for Jobs to receive all of them - he was copied when he needed to be copied, but not on every email.

Which one is more plausible?
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When the moderator gives props to trolls, I know this thread has gone way off the reservation and considerably north of crazy town.

Think different.
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Well men, you won this thread...

There are over 200 posts related to size, what you can and can not do with it, and also how much it's supposedly worth compared to something larger.

If you could just focus on this in more depth perhaps you could give us the fractional (display) details... Oh wait... CHECK! Covered!

Bravo!

Can we just say let them make it and let the public vote?

Large screen t.v.'s come to mind if i try to think like a guy. I may have missed the age of things getting smaller, (other than my horrible iPod) however my generation is seeing displays getting bigger and gaining more density pixel wise.

I'm not prognosticating, just mentioning proven fact, albieit obscurely.

...and if they came out with a bigger iPad that was still 'retina', I would try to be the first to buy it!

Much dismay toward my horrid fascination, not much trolling here. Neither real or fabricated from normal posters. I believe pgkavana purposely skewed his grammar and normal written speech pattern just to remain elusive. I'm going to see if I can bring some friends in for this. I want to win the contest!
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No, he was asking if he was the troll you referred to that Tallest Skil was backing.  See you can make a mistake and the world didn't stop spinning.

No. No real trolls... Not even from regular posters. At least on this thread. Although I may have missed a few posts. I try to read quick! Quick like bunny! :o)

The world will not stop spinning during your, or my, lifetime. Enjoy!

I said that rather "matter of factlly". Sorry. It's VERY unlikely that it will stop spinning during both of our lifetimes.
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