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2016: Obama's America

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My wife and I went to see the movie (trailer) yesterday.  It is based on Dinesh D'Souza's "The Roots of Obama's Rage."   I know many here (and elsewhere) will simply call it the conservative version of Fahrenheit 911, though many who actually watch it tend to disagree.  

 

My impressions: 

 

---At 5:00 on a Saturday, I was surprised to see the theater at least 50% full.  The audience was almost exclusively white and mostly senior citizens and middle aged couples, with some exception.  

 

--Despite what one might think, the film is not all that partisan.  It doesn't even really swipe at Obama's policies until the last 10 minutes or so.  

 

--The film's central premise is that Obama is embracing his father's fight against Colonialism.  D'Souza uses this as a "framework" to explain Obama's actions in office.  It comes across as a very credible premise.  

 

--Much of the film focuses on Obama's own words in Dreams From My Father.  

 

--The most interesting (and frankly, concerning) aspect is the discussion on Frank Marshall Davis.  D'Souza documents that Davis was Obama's mentor and close friend. Davis was also a registered member of the Communist Party. This section is part of a look into Obama's influences and associates.  

 

--The most disappointing aspect is that D'Souza doesn't spend much time talking about the film's title.  He gets into a few minutes of what will happen if Obama is reelected, but that, of course, is all just prediction and supposition (often by others).   

 

 

Overall, I'm glad I saw it.  I learned some new things.  I don't know that I totally buy the premise that Obama is merely acting on his father's anti-colonialist crusade, but I do think it's certainly part of what drives him.  I see him more as a man in conflict.  I still don't think he knows who he is.  Is he a leftist?  A moderate capitalist?  A dove? A hawk? A socialist? A patriot?  Black? White?   The reality is that he is all of these...and none.  While I also think Obama is very wrong on matters of policy, I think this lack of identity is what truly makes him such a poor leader.  

I can only please one person per day.  Today is not your day.  Tomorrow doesn't look good either.  
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Obama is a man of mystery. Sometimes I favor his views and other times no. Unfortunately Romney is a mystery also. Very confusing indeed.
 

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Regardless of what Obama is acting on, it is clear he could just as easily gotten any views from his mother.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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My view of both men are that they really don't have an internal view of their own. Wherever the wind blows that's where they go. Obama talks to his faculty lounge friends and then let's slipped a "bitter/clinger" gaff 'cause he's so smart and understands those yokels. Romney comes up with government solutions for private problems because he bought into the economic engineering idea.

 

Who knows what time will bring?

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Obama is a man of mystery. Sometimes I favor his views and other times no. Unfortunately Romney is a mystery also. Very confusing indeed.
 

 

That settles it folks.  He's not real.  

 

 

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Regardless of what Obama is acting on, it is clear he could just as easily gotten any views from his mother.

 

That was actually a major point D'Souza made.  Despite Obama's father leaving (after having married his mom while he was still married in Kenya), his mother was said to have pushed him towards the views of his biological father (and away from his stepfather's more pro-Western views, Lolo Soetoro).   It was actually his grandparents (mother's side) that found a mentor for him in the Communist, Frank Marshall Davis.  

 

 

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My view of both men are that they really don't have an internal view of their own. Wherever the wind blows that's where they go. Obama talks to his faculty lounge friends and then let's slipped a "bitter/clinger" gaff 'cause he's so smart and understands those yokels. Romney comes up with government solutions for private problems because he bought into the economic engineering idea.

 

Who knows what time will bring?

 

While Romney's flopping has become an urban legend, that's all it is.  If you really look at his positions, the only one you can say he's changed significantly is the one on abortion.  He's explained the change many times.  The other one pointed out is the individual mandate.  But the caveat there is while he said he favored mandates and would like to see such programs implemented in other states, he never favored it at the Federal level, which is an important distinction (unless you're a Lefty.  Then it's convenient to ignore any discussion of Federalism).  

 

As for "government solutions," I realize he supports more government involvement than you and many libertarians do.  But take a moment and listen to Romney/Ryan.  They are not proposing new federal programs to address problems.  They are proposing less government and lower taxes.  They want to audit the Fed.  In addition, the GOP is now starting to talk about returning to the Gold Standard.  Romney is a successful business leader and executive.  He wants to do what works.  It's how he's wired.  

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