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In an internal memo sent out to its employees on Monday, Samsung said it was "disappointed" to have been found guilty of patent infringement, but said the company will do its "utmost" to prevail in appeals against Apple.

The memo also states it is "regrettable" that the court's decision "caused concern among our employees, as well as our loyal customers." Apple was awarded $1.05 billion last Friday by a jury that found Samsung had committed patent infringement.

Samsung's statement to employees notes that a final ruling from the judge still remains, along with other "procedures." Among those is the appeals process that Samsung will presumably pursue to reverse the decision.

The company also issued a public statement last week calling the decision a "loss for the American consumer." The company claimed that the decision "will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices."

Apple, meanwhile, said the case was about "much more than patents or money," highlighting the company's "values" as the crux of the dispute.

"At Apple, we value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth," Apple said in a statement. "We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy."

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Samsung's statement to employees on Monday predicted that Apple's litigation could backfire on the company.

"History has shown there has yet to be a company that has won the hearts and minds of consumers and achieved continuous growth, when its primary means to competition has been the outright abuse of patent law, not the pursuit of innovation," the memo reads.

The full Samsung memo to employees, posted to the company's official blog on Monday, is included below:

We initially proposed to negotiate with Apple instead of going to court, as they had been one of our most important customers. However, Apple pressed on with a lawsuit, and we have had little choice but to counter-sue, so that we can protect our company.

Certainly, we are very disappointed by the verdict at the US District Court for the Northern District of California (NDCA), and it is regrettable that the verdict has caused concern amongst our employees, as well as our loyal customers.

However, the judge?s final ruling remains, along with a number of other procedures. We will continue to do our utmost until our arguments have been accepted.

The NDCA verdict starkly contrasts decisions made by courts in a number of other countries, such as the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Germany, and Korea, which have previously ruled that we did not copy Apple?s designs. These courts also recognized our arguments concerning our standards patents.

History has shown there has yet to be a company that has won the hearts and minds of consumers and achieved continuous growth, when its primary means to competition has been the outright abuse of patent law, not the pursuit of innovation.

We trust that the consumers and the market will side with those who prioritize innovation over litigation, and we will prove this beyond doubt.

post #2 of 76

Denial...that always works. *sarcasm*

post #3 of 76

Damage control. 

 

MUST SAVE FACE, and so on. Seen it before . . . .     *yawn*

 

But really, what else were they gonna say? This is the last scraps of what little honour they have left in front of their employees and the tech industry at large. Though I doubt the average consumer - outside of those in the jury - knows or cares. This wasn't about consumers, anyway. It was, in broad terms, about property rights. 


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Samsung's leadership apparently consists of a gang of blithering idiots. They are found with their hands in the copy machine and all they have to say is that Apple lacks innovation? The previous poster is spot on. Samsung is so delusional it's down right scary.
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it is actually a we are not losers and we will Continue... business as usual (BTW, Valuable employees, due to the loss you will have the option to work four hours longer or take an equivalent pay cut". LOL
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 The company claimed that the decision "will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices."

 

Translation:  The company claimed that the decision "will lead to fewer Samsung branded choices, less innovative products from Samsung, and potentially higher prices on Samsung products."

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I'm a bit baffled on why Samsung is confusing innovation with copying. There's nothing wrong (in my mind at least) with using ideas of someone else to spark your own innovation, and even using a similar material (like glass on the back, rounded corners or whatever) to a degree. But when your products are starting to look like 1-on-1 copies (just look at the charger's connector and shape for example), it's not simply using and adjusting someone else's ideas to fit your own innovation, but it's plain copying.

 

It's either very arrogant or ignorant of Samsung, and I'm quite happy that they lost. I think they do have great products for consumers (I love their TV's for example), but the Asian market in general has a very high "you do things right so I'll do the same" viewpoint on things. To even state that it will stiffle innovation is a clear sign to me that they have no idea what they're talking about. Nokia's Lumia phone is, although not my personal taste, a great and different looking phone… there are plenty of ways to design/create a unique phone, as long as you put the effort and research in it to come to an end result in your own way.

 

Bah, I really dislike arrogant and/or ignorant companies who cry and call companies mean when they've been found out.

post #8 of 76

Samsung's 'pursuit of innovation' method is to go after (pursue) and copy Apple's innovation.

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Samsung just view innovation differently:  copy the market leader then add a bigger screen;  copy the market leader then add a pen; copy the market leader then make it cheaper.

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They are innovative copiers.  Bazinga.

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It seems to me that Apple has actually followed the standard means of patenting their innovations and the American people (represented by the jury) has made their voice heard. This ruling has upheld patent law and has not abused it like other corporations extorting companies with their FRAND encumbered patents, or double dipping both the makers of 3G chipsets and Apple.

 

Dear Samsung, we don't want your innovation, because frankly.... you don't have any.  You only have over-confident lies that you hope will one day become truth if you repeat it long enough.

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We trust that the consumers and the market will side with those who prioritize innovation over litigation, and we will prove this beyond doubt.

Indeed.  And let's not gloss over the fact that the whole patent system (and related litigation) is only necessary because of those who choose to imitate rather than innovate.

 
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post #13 of 76

Samsung is losing face and they don't know how to cope with it.

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This is off topic. Is anyone else having trouble browsing the mobile version of this site on iOS?

Recently it just displays a blank page when you click on a post.

I'm union iPhone 4S, iOS 5x, mobile safari.
post #15 of 76
Samsung keeps using the word "innovation", right after being found guilty of copying other companies' products. I think that word doesn't mean what they think it does.
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post #16 of 76

I dont understand.  Apple said it had discussion with Samscum etc. Now, Samscum is telling IT had discussions with Apple.  

Is Samscum spraying scum on their employees?  

Samsung is shit.  

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And, Samscum... you should clearly know the difference between INNOVATION and RIPPING OFF, you bastards!

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Yes having trouble with Mobile IOS viewing like KrisKalu
 

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If Samsung were an employee of Apple or any other company, they would have been fired by now for stealing. I hope Apple stops doing business with them. They don't need them. It would leave Samsung free to impress us with their innovation.
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Samsung's management is really a joke.   I don't think they can survive without heavy government subsidies.
 

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Yes. All I get is a blank screen.

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In an internal memo sent out to its employees on Monday, Samsung said it was "disappointed" to have been found guilty of patent infringement, but said the company will do its "utmost" to prevail in appeals against Apple.

The memo also states it is "regrettable" that the court's decision "caused concern among our employees, as well as our loyal customers." Apple was awarded $1.05 billion last Friday by a jury that found Samsung guilty of patent infringement.

 

They forgot to say that it was regrettable that their stock plunged 7% after the verdict.

post #23 of 76

So now it's not just "a loss for the consumer" - now it's "a loss for the company"...I see what you did there.biggrin.gif

 

 


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post #24 of 76

...'Samsung said it was "disappointed" to have been found guilty of patent infringement...'

 

Notice that it says 'dissappointed' but not 'surprised'.  You can't hide the obvious.

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I'm a bit baffled on why Samsung is confusing innovation with copying. There's nothing wrong (in my mind at least) with using ideas of someone else to spark your own innovation, and even using a similar material (like glass on the back, rounded corners or whatever) to a degree.

That is apparently Samsung's view as well. And their view of what they did. They clearly do not feel they illegally 'copied' anything that is appropriately under legal protection.

This memo is expected and is basically them saving face. Although it is fronted as an internal memo you can bet it was leaked by them on purpose so the shareholders would see it and hopefully not start a major sell off etc. But in the end they could still prove to be losers.

In fact I wouldn't shocked if Apple moves to have any or all parts of this design trademarked, much as Coke did with their glass bottle design. If they did and were successful it could lock down the look and feel even further and again force Samsung etc to actually innovate, not just replicate
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This is off topic. Is anyone else having trouble browsing the mobile version of this site on iOS?
Recently it just displays a blank page when you click on a post.
I'm union iPhone 4S, iOS 5x, mobile safari.

YUP!

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I hope Apple stops doing business with them. They don't need them.

Unfortunately at this point that is not true. There are not yet other companies that can make the parts that Samaung produces for Apple at the volume and quality Apple needs.

Now do I think that Apple should be seeking other companies for that goal. Sure. Most definitely. And if the rumors are true, they have already started
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This is off topic. Is anyone else having trouble browsing the mobile version of this site on iOS?
Recently it just displays a blank page when you click on a post.
I'm union iPhone 4S, iOS 5x, mobile safari.


I am.

post #29 of 76

I'm having a problem accessing articles on my iPhone as well.  When I click an article I get a blank page. boo! :(

post #30 of 76

Not really surprising blog entry. It doesn't add a lot to the conversation.

 

I think Samsung may have had a point, throwing in the F700. Alas, their lawyers missed on that point.


Well, may wife may have the copy (S2). However, I envy her screen.

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They forgot to say that it was regrettable that their stock plunged 7% after the verdict.

Idiotic remark. Their stock is still up 5% compared to the day before the trial started.

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The full Samsung memo to employees, posted to the company's official blog on Monday, is included below:

We initially proposed to negotiate with Apple instead of going to court, as they had been one of our most important customers. However, Apple pressed on with a lawsuit, and we have had little choice but to counter-sue, so that we can protect our company.

 

Samsung is such a noble company...Oh...and always utterly altruistic .... Oh... Oh...

(I am slowly dissolving in my tears)

 

Oh....Oh.... 

 

And now there is no more innovation.. Oh.... and the poor consumers.....Oh

 

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(actually, I wanted to paste a crying emoticon, but the choices have become a little thin as of lately)

post #33 of 76

Apple has already been working on a way to replace Samsung components.  Samsung is going to get the IBM/Google treatment.  When you screw with Apple you wind up screwed in the end.

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This is off topic. Is anyone else having trouble browsing the mobile version of this site on iOS?
Recently it just displays a blank page when you click on a post.
I'm union iPhone 4S, iOS 5x, mobile safari.

 

If the mods don't mind, I'll quote this. 

post #35 of 76

Samsung: shut up! Innovate or pay!

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They forgot to say that it was regrettable that their stock plunged 7% after the verdict.

Idiotic remark. Their stock is still up 5% compared to the day before the trial started.

 

That's a bit harsh. He is correct that the stock fell sharply after the verdict - its biggest one day fall in 4 years. You think that is irrelevant somehow?

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...'Samsung said it was "disappointed" to have been found guilty of patent infringement...'

 

Notice that it says 'dissappointed' but not 'surprised'.  You can't hide the obvious.

 

Nor did they say "apologetic." They're sorry only that they got caught.

 

But we should also recognize that that in the large Korean corporate groups, known as the 'chaebols,' there's a different business ethic. First loyalty is to the company, and pretty much any conduct that advances the company's interests is considered fair and normal. Even 25+ years ago when I used to go to Korea on business we knew never to leave our briefcases or any confidential documents behind in the customer's conference room during lunch or plant tours. We all understood that someone would go through our papers if we did.

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This is off topic. Is anyone else having trouble browsing the mobile version of this site on iOS?
Recently it just displays a blank page when you click on a post.
I'm union iPhone 4S, iOS 5x, mobile safari.

Yes, I am having that same issue... whats going on...???  Also, ever since this website recently changed their template I can read the replies great for the first three and then it increased in size so that I can no longer view the replies without having to scroll to the right... on my iphone that is... really annoying.....

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I'm not a fan of the interface-formerly-known-as-Metro or the Surface noteablet, but they sure don't look like iOS, an iPhone, or iPad. 

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Originally Posted by kriskkalu View Post

This is off topic. Is anyone else having trouble browsing the mobile version of this site on iOS?
Recently it just displays a blank page when you click on a post.
I'm union iPhone 4S, iOS 5x, mobile safari.


And just to be clear, this is happening on my iphone only...  When I use either the first, second, or third generation iPads, I can view the articles just fine.  But when I open the article with my iPhone4 there is a blank page.....,...

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