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Police tracked a stolen iPhone in San Francisco to what appeared to be a smartphone theft ring, firing a shot at suspects and briefly locking down an elementary school along the way.

According to a report by the San Francisco Chronicle, the chase began in 6:30 am when two armed robbers stole an iPhone from an individual on the street in Ocean View.

Police tracked the iPhone to Noe Valley, apparently using Apple's iCloud "Find My iPhone" feature. Upon seeing the officers, the suspects ran, with one attempting to jump a fence into St. Paul's Catholic Church near 29th Street, which is connected to an elementary school.

Police secured the school for about a half hour, just as students were beginning to arrive. The suspect attempting to jump a gate into the church's school campus turned toward police with his hand concealed, resulting in one officer discharging her weapon.

The shot missed and the suspect got away, but police were able to apprehend a second suspect nearby on Church Street, and then tracked the stolen phone to a car about three miles away on the other side of Twin Peaks near Seventh Avenue in the Sunset District.

There, they found a third suspect inside the car and a fourth hiding in the trunk, along with "other allegedly stolen smartphones."

Police then looked up the car's registration to a nearby home, where they detained two additional suspects.

Smartphone thefts in San Francisco have become routine and increasingly involve holdups, often with thieves brandishing weapons. So far, Apple and its carrier partners have done little to make it difficult to use stolen phones, resulting in large market for stolen devices.

However, the company's free iCloud tracking system had helped many users to recover their devices, although it is not difficult for thieves to deactivate the tracking feature, something several bloggers have recommended the company address by at least requiring a password to shut down a stolen phone.
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It seems a little crazy that all this would come from a stolen iPhone, but lets keep in mind:

 

1) An armed robbery took place.

 

2) The suspect appeared to pull a weapon at a police officer.

 

3) There is an organized ring of smartphone thieves in San Francisco.

 

Of course, no gadget is worth a person's life. But as a resident of the Bay Area, I would love for these thieves to be taken down (and/or their organization).


Edited by acslater017 - 8/27/12 at 6:53pm
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This is not apple news!

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Originally Posted by ny3ranger View Post
This is not apple news!

 


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…a stolen iPhone…
…stole an iPhone… 
…tracked the iPhone… …using Apple's iCloud "Find My iPhone" feature.
…the company's free iCloud tracking system… 

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It seems a little crazy that all this would come in mind from a stolen iPhone, but lets keep in mind:

1) An armed robbery took place.

2) The suspect appeared to pull a weapon at a police officer.

3) There is an organized ring of smartphone thieves in San Francisco.

Of course, no gadget is worth a person's life. But as a resident of the Bay Area, I would love for these thieves to be taken down (and/or their organization).

The armed robbery was the kicker. These individuals were clearly very dangerous.
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post #7 of 68

It's a darn shame that the police woman missed. It would have sent a good message to any other Apple thieves out there. Steal a phone and you just might end up dead! Apple devices are the hottest items out there, and thieves are always on the lookout for Apple devices.

 

And I find it weird that the app on my iPad is called "find iPhone", as it can be used to find any iOS device. That app has been responsible for recovering many stolen Apple devices, but I agree with the end of the article, and Apple should make it even more secure, with less chance for the thieves to deactivate the feature.

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Sensationalism with an Apple connection.
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Of course, no gadget is worth a person's life. 

 

I disagree. A person should be able to shoot and kill a robber in order to protect their property and also their own lives. The life of a victim is worth more than the life of a thug.

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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post
Sensationalism with an Apple connection.

 

I'd say it's a 'raise your eyebrows over the newspaper for a moment before returning to your business' story, nothing particularly astonishing.

😉

They've reported stories like this before without this ruckus.

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along with martians, flying saucers and big foot. can't wait!

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I disagree. A person should be able to shoot and kill a robber in order to protect their property and also their own lives. The life of a victim is worth more than the life of a thug.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to try to increase opportunity and social mobility, so we don't have to incarcerate or kill so many thugs. Same thing with terrorism. The first defence should be to stop creating so many enemies.
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Police tracked a stolen iPhone in San Francisco to what appeared to be a smartphone theft ring, firing a shot at suspects and briefly locking down a elementary school along the way.

 

What does, 'locking down a elementary school' mean?

 

Do you mean, 'locking down AN elementary school'?

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Perhaps it would be a good idea to try to increase opportunity and social mobility, so we don't have to incarcerate or kill so many thugs. Same thing with terrorism. The first defence should be to stop creating so many enemies.

I have to disagree with your hypothesis about why certain bad people are bad, especially concerning terrorists. 

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Sounds good to me! I'd rather read about Apple news when standing in line, waiting to pay for my groceries, instead of seeing the usual crap that they have there.

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What does, 'locking down a elementary school' mean?

 

Do you mean, 'locking down AN elementary school'?

Alright, you obviously know what it means. DED is not that bad.

 

 


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But it really has absolutely nothing to do with Apple or Apple products. It could just as easily have been gold coins, a diamond ring or a stack of bearer bonds (except, of course, those are harder to track). The type of stolen merchandise really isn't important.
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The type of stolen merchandise really isn't important.

 

I think that it is very relevant, as Apple device theft is out of control! Does anybody even bother to steal Android phones? Even lowlife thieves don't want that crap!

 

40% of our thefts are Apple products

NYC Police Commissioner Ray Kelly in Aspen, Colorado

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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These are the points in this article that are Apple related and not sensational, and valid to debate/discuss!

 

1. "Apple and its carrier partners have done little to make it difficult to use stolen phones, resulting in large market for stolen devices"

Apple and it's partners could do some significant things in this area such as create a database of stolen cellphones. This might be ongoing, I don't recall....


2. "The company's free iCloud tracking system had helped many users to recover their devices, although it is not difficult for thieves to deactivate the tracking feature, something several bloggers have recommended the company address by at least requiring a password to shut down a stolen phone.

Easy and worthwhile in my opinion to have a password to shutdown your device - comments?

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Same thing with terrorism. 

Pure nonsense. Stop spreading junk.

 

I dare you to how me one (even semi-credible) study (even remotely) linking social/economic mobility to terrorism.

 

(Even if there was, they should be treated for what/who they are as judged by their actions.)

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How dumb are these thiefs? Surely any thief with common sense would turn off the phone, ditch the SIM Card and use the iPhones hidden reset feature with a computer at an Internet cafe. This would disable all tracking features since No SIM Card = No Network = No Tracking & a reset wipes all data including Apple IDs and the Computer that is usually synced with. Internet cafe helps to avoid any IP tracking issues. iPhone is then fully sellable. Simple!
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2. "The company's free iCloud tracking system had helped many users to recover their devices, although it is not difficult for thieves to deactivate the tracking feature, something several bloggers have recommended the company address by at least requiring a password to shut down a stolen phone.
Easy and worthwhile in my opinion to have a password to shutdown your device - comments?

There's probably legal issues with this. There are scenarios where a phone must be turned off (the FAA comes to mind.) if someone gets kicked off a plane because they can't shut off their phone, does Apple get sued?
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What I learned about stealing iPhones.

1. Disable all network connectivity.

2. Don't hide your hand from a cop.

3. ????

4. Profit!!!

 

Thanks for the How to steal an iPhone AppleInsider! ;)

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How dumb are these thiefs? 

 

If by thiefs, you mean thieves, then I can safely venture to guess that the majority of them are indeed very dumb. For starters, somebody resorting to a desperate measure such as stealing is pretty dumb, especially when you consider the risks/rewards. There might be a few of them who are computer savvy, but most of them are probably dumbasses and lowlifes who will eventually get what's coming to them.

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I dare you to how me one (even semi-credible) study (even remotely) linking social/economic mobility to terrorism.

 

 

I dare say that the exact opposite is true in many cases. Though I have come across people who do try and push the poverty theory, even though it's completely false.

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What does, 'locking down a elementary school' mean?

Do you mean, 'locking down AN elementary school'?

Ironic error when you think about it ... Lol
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post #27 of 68

Aha!! The Find my iPhone software caused this violent confrontation - what does Tim Cook have to say for this tragedy?!

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What does, 'locking down a elementary school' mean?

 

Do you mean, 'locking down AN elementary school'?

 

*oops I misread what you wrote. But leaving my post for anyone who didn't understand*

 

Ah, the unique language of the US.

Some explanation for our A.I. buddies overseas :)

 

Since "active shooter" incidents have become more common (not one-off shootings, but an incident where a shooter continues to fire at people), many schools these days have "lockdown" procedures. A lockdown is basically where no one is allowed into our out of the campus. Classrooms lock their doors, kids get down the ground, shades are drawn, and everyone stays silent. 

 

It's often used when something dangerous is happening nearby, even if the school itself is not the target. 

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Recovering an iPhone?

 

Not worth it.

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Apple really don't care about their customers otherwise they would have a program to brick a stolen phone and make it useless. I understand in Austrailia there is a program to do just that. Their needs to be cooperation between cellphone sellers and cell service providers to protect their customers.
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When I first saw the headline, I jumped to the wrong conclusion. My first thought was that it was the new iPhone and involved a bar and Gizmodo.

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*oops I misread what you wrote. But leaving my post for anyone who didn't understand*

 

Ah, the unique language of the US.

Some explanation for our A.I. buddies overseas :)

 

Since "active shooter" incidents have become more common (not one-off shootings, but an incident where a shooter continues to fire at people), many schools these days have "lockdown" procedures. A lockdown is basically where no one is allowed into our out of the campus. Classrooms lock their doors, kids get down the ground, shades are drawn, and everyone stays silent. 

 

It's often used when something dangerous is happening nearby, even if the school itself is not the target. 

Haha - my apologies. Being someone who has worked in the Palace of Westminster (British Parliament), I've become familiar with lockdown procedures. It's a shame they never locked it down while I was there, because it would have meant something good (like the Queen visiting, or something :D). 

 

But yes, I was correcting the grammar. Like DigitalClips said:

 


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Recovering an iPhone?

 

Not worth it.

 

I believe that you need some new material, and I dare say that I am disappointed in the lack of effort and thought that went behind your post. The quality of Fandroids and trolls on this forum has been steadily declining ever since the devastating Samsung smackdown recently. Some of them are probably too ashamed to come around, while others have been put on suicide watch.

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Waiting for the reports of copycat crimes nabbing Samsungs...
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I believe that you need some new material, and I dare say that I am disappointed in the lack of effort and thought that went behind your post. The quality of Fandroids and trolls on this forum has been steadily declining ever since the devastating Samsung smackdown recently. Some of them are probably too ashamed to come around, while others have been put on suicide watch.

 

I'd shoot him to recover one... ;-)

 

Wait until the new iPhone comes out. The news headlines will read:

 

NEW JACKS STEAL IPHONES WITH NEW JACK-CONNECTORS.

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Recovering an iPhone?

No.

Chasing armed robbers.

Or would you rather have the cops say, "Oh. Even though they pulled a gun on you, it's only an iPhone. So it's okay. Don't worry about it."

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iPhones should have built in secret taser's on them so if police are chasing some one over an iPhone they can remote activate it and shut the stupid one down.

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What does, 'locking down a elementary school' mean?

 

Do you mean, 'locking down AN elementary school'?

 

It means police wouldn't allow unauthorized apps to run inside the elementary school.

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Recovering an iPhone?

 

Not worth it.

 

Glad to see you condone criminal activity.

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It means police wouldn't allow unauthorized apps to run inside the elementary school.

and all the kids had to stay in the sandbox?

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