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post #41 of 45
8/28/12 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by jeffreytgilbert View Post

 

Why do people always troll with uninformed assumptions? If you're not a programmer, stop telling people how much you think you know about coding.

Nope, I'm not a programmer, but that doesn't mean I'm an idiot about it either thank you very much.

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post #42 of 45
8/28/12 at 3:31pm
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You are just filled with misinformation, aren't you? That person wasn't talking about JavaScript, and Java and JavaScript are NOT both plugins. Java is a plugin (as that person stated) that can be turned off. Java and JavaScript are NOTHING alike. 

... I never said Javascript was a plugin, I said that Oracle's Java has a browser plugin, but that it's basically a cross platform API. 

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post #43 of 45
8/28/12 at 3:33pm
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Riiight.  That's why many browsers pulled support for WebSockets (a web app technology) a little while back due to security issues.

 

It took me less than a week to port a fairly complex Objective-C app I'd written for iOS to Java (in order to create a compatible, browser-based version of it) due to those programming languages being so similar.  I can't imagine how long it would take to port that same code to be a web app which works as well in the multitude of web browsers out there (if it'd even be possible).

About the browser engine cross platform stuff, Yes, the web standards bodies NEED to force these engines to support the same things, and if they want a special function added, it needs to be approved. That's one of the main problems with the Web, it's too easy for companies to implement propetiary functions.

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post #44 of 45
8/28/12 at 7:55pm
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About the browser engine cross platform stuff, Yes, the web standards bodies NEED to force these engines to support the same things, and if they want a special function added, it needs to be approved. That's one of the main problems with the Web, it's too easy for companies to implement propetiary functions.

If they do that, then you'll end up with web technologies moving forward at the same glacial pace as C++.  Bogged down in steering committees and politics.  This is one of the reasons why NeXT/Apple chose Objective-C over C++ -- because they could move it forward at their own pace.

 

But, I agree, proprietary technologies have proven to be a hinderance to the web over the years.

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post #45 of 45
8/29/12 at 2:29pm

Java is huge, and it's not going anywhere. As another poster mentioned, there are two separate components. Applets (crappy IMO) which run either standalone or on a webpage, and Server Side java. Java is used by the majority of Fortune 500 companies at some level. BUt yeah, i agree.. applets are giving the Java language a bad name these days.
 

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