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and your childish comments make fool of yourself.
 

*snicker*

 

I couldn't resist

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I own many Apple products but, do not appreciate Apple being bully.
Your comments are highly offensive, and your childish comments make fool of yourself.
Be careful with what you say ...

Anyone else think this guy might be working for Samsung?

Too much to be just coincidental by now..
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The people -did- decide. That's the point of a jury trial.

 

 

Jury trial is just a part of marketing! People are not the one who made the verdict. well. lawyers are also people but they are just after the big money they can earn. I am talking with the people who are consumers.

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Well said !!!
Let the consummers be the judge and vote with their hard earned money, for their individual needs, without being manipulated by the flawed US patent and legal systems.

 

 

That's true... consumers are the one who knows which product are much useful to them! Who cares about the patents? Probably not the consumers for sure.

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That's true... consumers are the one who knows which product are much useful to them! Who cares about the patents? Probably not the consumers for sure.

Which is why there's a court system in the United States to ensure that companies don't steal IP from other companies.

Too bad Samsung lost - I hope they can still afford to pay you for your trolling.
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Well said !!!
Let the consummers be the judge and vote with their hard earned money, for their individual needs, without being manipulated by the flawed US patent and legal systems.

 

 

Intellectual Property rights have nothing to do with consumer interests. Apple is claiming a competitor stole what's theirs and have demonstrated loss. Under the law Apple has IP rights. 

 

It isn't for consumers to purchase goods that violate someone's intellectual property rights. No matter how much you want to, you're not entitled to it in the least. There is nothing for you to decide in this regard, because your needs aren't relevant to the issue. 

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 Who cares about the patents? 

 

Those who care about the integrity of their ideas. 

 

http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/en/patents_faq.html#protection


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Jury trial is just a part of marketing! People are not the one who made the verdict. 

 

 

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Jury+Verdict

 

Who was it, then? Ghosts? Aliens?

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Jury trial is just a part of marketing! People are not the one who made the verdict. well. lawyers are also people but they are just after the big money they can earn. I am talking with the people who are consumers.


I guess you don't know about the American court system. Understandable I suppose...

A jury is made up of your peers (which means that they are ordinary people - just like you and me [except they are not paid to give their opinions like you apparently are])

It must suck in your country to be judged by those corrupt judges and lawyers making all that big money.

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I own many Apple products but, do not appreciate Apple being bully.
Your comments are highly offensive, and your childish comments make fool of yourself.
Be careful with what you say ...

Anyone else think this guy might be working for Samsung?

Too much to be just coincidental by now..

No, I don't work for Samsung.

Apple makes great products but, they have poor character of accusing others copying Apple innovations while Apple themselves copy and purchase innovations by others.

Apple was once nearly bankrupted, and the mighty Microsoft saved Apple. Yet, Steve Jobs did not have much kind words for Bill Gate, and is so determind to kill its competition at all costs, including abusing the broken patent and legal systems.

Now, the mighty Apple owes its competitions serious kindness to payback the kindness Apple received from Bill Gates and Microsoft.

No, I don't work for Microsoft, and am a retired Chief Technology Officer who believes in innovations AND good character ...
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post #51 of 87
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Apple was once nearly bankrupted, and the mighty Microsoft saved Apple.

 

Pro tip: Pirates of Silicon Valley is not a historical document. Pretending it is will only get you ignored, in more ways than one.


Yet, Steve Jobs did not have much kind words for Bill Gate, and is so determind to kill its competition at all costs, including abusing the broken patent and legal systems.

 

Though if you had actually watched the movie, you'd know how stupid this sounds.

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No, I don't work for Samsung.
Apple makes great products but, they have poor character of accusing others copying Apple innovations while Apple themselves copy and purchase innovations by others.

 

 

EVEN IF THEY DID . . . so what?  Doesn't change anything about their products. It doesn't make your iPad faster or slower. Unless you consider "company character" an essential design feature. LOL

 

 

 

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Apple was once nearly bankrupted, and the mighty Microsoft saved Apple.
 kindness Apple received from Bill Gates and Microsoft.
 

 

LOL. No. 

 

I'm very nearly convinced that the current crop of Apple trolls are just bots. They say a whole lotta nothing, other than slogans that read like it's their first day in an ESL course. 

 

 

 

Anyway, MS "saved" Apple because Apple had them over a barrel. MS, as usual in those days, was caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Caught with Apple's Quicktime code. Before they stole that, movies and other video wouldn't play properly in Windows. They would be jerky from frame to frame.
 
Apple threatened to sue.
 
They came to a settlement (wisely) in which Apple and MS would share patents in various bits of software, and also that MS would buy $150,000,000 in non voting Apple stock and announce support for Apple by continuing development of Office for at least 5 years.
 
This wasn't done out of the goodness of Gates' heart. Apple in effect used a bit of extortion on MS due to the latter's act of theft. It was in Billy's best interest to play Apple's game or face worse penalties. That $150 million investment in Apple was probably going to be a lot cheaper than a lawsuit with Apple.
 
So MS' $150m stock investment was the result of a settlement of a lawsuit. It was, however, an INITIAL payment of a much larger sum that would be paid out to Apple over the course of a few years. At the time this is what then Apple CFO Fred Anderson said. The exact amount of the settlement is still unknown.
 
Both companies would cross-license all existing patents and any new ones over the following five years. As we know, Apple would make IE the default Mac browser, which in the context of the period isn't a strange thing.
 
Apple had leverage over MS, arising from the Apple Computer vs. San Francisco Canyon Co. lawsuit.
 
Apple charged San Fran Canyon Co with copyright infringement and wrongdoing. And they filed an IP suit accordingly. These guys were a 3rd party contractor for Apple. However, the action also included MS and Intel. Canyon worked on video software for Apple's QuickTime for Windows and Intel's DCI. Apple claimed their copyrighted code was used in the shipping version of MS' Video for Windows and will be used by both companies in the future.
 
Apple claimed that after seeing demos of Quicktime for Windows and Video for Windows at the 1992 expo in Vegas, Intel's upper management asked Canyon to provide software to them that would make the speed of Video for Windows as fast as Quicktime. Months later, Canyon sent Intel its code and Video for Windows got the performance boost with Quicktime For Windows. Apple added Intel and MS to the action, and Apple showed that thousands of lines of code for video used in Windows came direct from Apple's Quicktime for Windows (Apple's software.)
 
As we know, some years later at the Boston Macworld Expo, the companies were like best friends.
 
MS and Intel got caught red-handed and paid for it. MS hired former Apple guys and finally made Office into usable Mac apps.
 
Not quite a win for MS. Apple simply took full advantage of MS' typical behaviour (the sort of behaviour that came to light later in antitrust court.)
 
Interestingly enough, had MS not acted like a thief at the time, Apple might not be where they are today.
 
These details weren't widely reported back in 1997. So they're easy to miss, probably due to all the breathlessness and emotional highs and lows going on at the time. There was a mention of other payments MS agreed to make in addition to the $150 million. The amount was never publicly disclosed (which isn't really surprising.) For instance, the particulars of the recent Apple-Nokia deal weren't disclosed publicly either. Apple's financial records at the time suggested it was substantial.
 
The only mention we have of these later payments was from a televised broadcast, and likely the settlement docs which may or many not be available for public perusal. 
 
 
From: gorskic@concentric.net (Chris Gorski);
Sent at 8/6/97; 10:11:21 AM;
More Info...from CNBC
Sorry to keep writing, but my brain feels like it's connected to a fire hose...
Apple and MS are also collaborating on Java. What this means for Sun is anybody's guess. Again, forgot about this.
 
Bruce Francis will interview Ed Woolard (Apple board member) at 10:30 ET (7:30 your time) on CNBC. JObs won't be talking to the press today.
It's my guess that CNNfn (if your cable system carries it) will have very extensive coverage of all this on Digital Jam at 11 eastern (8 your time), probably with lots of video. It's the only thing worth watching on fn, even though Steve Young (their lead anchor) hasn't a clue.
 
 
From: gorskic@concentric.net (Chris Gorski);
Sent at 8/6/97; 10:42:37 AM;
More Bruce Francis News
 
In addition to all the other stuff that has been said, Edgar Woolard, Apple Board member and DuPont Chairman jsut revealed to CNBC's Bruce Francis that MS will, as part of the patent settlement, make "balancing payments" to Apple over the next 5 years. He would not disclose the sum.
 
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For your own interest and edification, start here:
 
 
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^^^^^^^

 

Never mind, I'll even do it for you. 

 

 

http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Apple_v._San_Francisco_Canyon

 

 

Apple Computer, Inc. v. San Francisco Canyon Co. (filed Dec. 6, 1994).
 
Factual Background
 
San Francisco Canyon Co. was a software developer that contracted with Apple Computer in 1992 to port the QuickTime technology to Microsoft Windows. They made their first release of QuickTime for Windows in November 1992.
In July 1993, Intel contracted San Francisco Canyon Co. to improve the performance of Microsoft's Video for Windows technology on Intel processors. By the end of 1993, Intel and Microsoft had combined their efforts to improve Video for Windows by creating a joint technology called Display Control Interface, that was included in version 1.1d of Video for Windows.
 
Trial Court Proceedings
 
The lawsuit, filed on December 6, 1994, alleged that the San Francisco Canyon used some of the code developed under contract to Apple, in their additions to Video for Windows. Apple expanded the lawsuit to include Intel and Microsoft on February 10, 1995, alleging that Microsoft and Intel knowingly used the software company to aid them in stealing several thousand lines of Apple's QuickTime code in their effort to improve the performance of Video for Windows.
 
On March 3, 1995, a federal judge issued a temporary restraining order that prohibited Microsoft from distributing its current version of Video for Windows.[1] Microsoft subsequently released version 1.1e of Video for Windows, that removed all of the code contributed by San Francisco Canyon, stating in the release notes "does not include the low-level driver code that was licensed from Intel Corporation." Later testimony in the Microsoft anti-trust trial revealed that, at the time, Apple was threatening Microsoft with a multi-billion dollar lawsuit over the allegedly stolen code, and in return Bill Gates was threatening with the cancellation of Office for the Mac.[2]
 
In August 1997, Apple and Microsoft announced a settlement deal. Apple would drop all current lawsuits, including all lingering issues from the Apple Computer, Inc. v. Microsoft Corp. lawsuit and the "QuickTime source code" lawsuit, and agree to make Internet Explorer the default browser on the Macintosh unless the user explicitly chose the bundled Netscape browser. In return, Microsoft agreed to continue developing Office, Internet Explorer, and various developer tools and software for the Mac for the next five years, and purchase $150 million of non-voting Apple stock.*
 
The companies also agreed to mutual collaboration on Java technologies, and to cross-license all existing patents, and patents obtained during the five-year deal, with one another. [3]
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Apple was once nearly bankrupted, and the mighty Microsoft saved Apple.

Pro tip: Pirates of Silicon Valley is not a historical document. Pretending it is will only get you ignored, in more ways than one.
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Yet, Steve Jobs did not have much kind words for Bill Gate, and is so determind to kill its competition at all costs, including abusing the broken patent and legal systems.

Though if you had actually watched the movie, you'd know how stupid this sounds.

No, I did not read the book nor watched the movie that you referred to.
My views are based my independent, objective and educated understanding of the widely known facts.
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My views are based my independent, objective and educated understanding of the widely known facts.

 

Except your "views" are neither. 

 

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/152257/apple-takes-issue-with-post-trial-decision-timeline-asks-court-to-reschedule-hearings/40#post_2181036

 

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/152257/apple-takes-issue-with-post-trial-decision-timeline-asks-court-to-reschedule-hearings/40#post_2181039

 

 

Please stop spreading misinformation about the Apple-Microsoft settlement agreement. 

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My views are based my independent, objective and educated understanding of the widely known facts.

Except your "views" are neither. 

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/152257/apple-takes-issue-with-post-trial-decision-timeline-asks-court-to-reschedule-hearings/40#post_2181036

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/152257/apple-takes-issue-with-post-trial-decision-timeline-asks-court-to-reschedule-hearings/40#post_2181039


Please stop spreading misinformation about the Apple-Microsoft settlement agreement. 

I am very impressed by your extensive knowledge about Apple v. Microsoft.

Now, I would encourage you to research and report to us on "generous heart" for which we Canadians are blessed with and appreciated by many ...
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Now, I would encourage you to research and report to us on "generous heart" 

 

 

It wouldn't have anything to do with the current discussion.

post #58 of 87
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My views are based my independent, objective and educated understanding of the widely known facts.

 

Your views are lies, period. Either willful or borne of ignorance, but lies all the same.

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Your views are lies, period. Either willful or borne of ignorance, but lies all the same.

 

 

Yes. That's what happens when you don't bother verifying your own claims. 

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My views are based my independent, objective and educated understanding of the widely known facts.

Your views are lies, period. Either willful or borne of ignorance, but lies all the same.

At the dying moment Steve Jobs had a letter from Bill Gates at his bed side whom he labeled as not an innovator. May be SJ had finally figured out that there is more to life than inventions. What do you think?
Edited by edwardkim - 9/4/12 at 9:27am
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At the dying moment Steve Jobs had a letter from Bill Gates at his bed side whom he labeled as not an innovator. May be SJ had finally figured out that there is more to life then inventions. What do you think?

 

I think that's a perfectly valid point that has nothing to do with nor corrects in any way what you've said earlier.

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At the dying moment Steve Jobs had a letter from Bill Gates at his bed side whom he labeled as not an innovator. 

 

Steve was incorrect. Bill Gates innovated Universal Licensing. 

 

 

Which in turn, innovated the Dark Ages of computing (Wintel.)

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May be SJ had finally figured out that there is more to life then inventions. What do you think?

 

 

There was more to life than his passion? Maybe. Or, knowing what Jobs was like, maybe not. Maybe it was all about changing the world through empowering everyday people with better technological experiences. Giving yourself over fully and totally to your craft is beyond noble. 

 

 

 

 

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/walter-isaacsons-steve-jobs-biography-shows-apple-co-founders-genius-flaws/2011/10/23/gIQA86vaAM_story.html

 

 

Steve Jobs, staring down death, had just received a new liver. He lay in a Memphis hospital bed in 2009, floating in and out of consciousness, but he was alert enough — and acting like Steve Jobs, authoritarian design sage — that he pronounced an oxygen mask totally unacceptable. He disapproved of the design.
 
Jobs ordered his caretakers to bring him five options so he could choose the best one. This was not his only critique of the medical equipment. He also despised an oxygen monitor on his finger and proposed ways to revise the design for simplicity.

 

 

 

This attitude is the reason Apple has bitch-slapped the entire industry in consumer tech. Jobs was obsessed with design, aesthetics, and the relationship ordinary people *should* have with technology. Thus, Apple is today the Gold Standard of consumer tech. Because Jobs committed himself fully and totally to achieving it. He really did live and breathe it. 

 

If he maintained that attitude into his last, dying breath, I remain undisturbed. In fact, I'm encouraged. I'm encouraged to believe that that level of commitment *is* possible in consumer tech. After all, this attitude gave us the modern GUI, Macs, OS X, iPods, iPhones, iPads, and so on. All industry re-defining game-changers. Speaking as a consumer, I really can't complain. Apple spoiled us. Because Steve Jobs made that a priority. The same claim can barely be made (if at all) of other companies and products. 


Edited by Quadra 610 - 9/2/12 at 5:30pm
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What do you think?

I think you are a troll, and not a very good one, you may also have little man's syndrome.

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What do you think?
I think you are a troll, and not a very good one, you may also have little man's syndrome.

Your thoughts and choice of words perfectly match Apple's poor character.
I would encourage you to develop generous heart to match greatness of Apple's products.
Life is short. Therefore, bless others while you can ...
Edited by edwardkim - 9/4/12 at 7:48am
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…Apple's poor character.

 

Come off it.

 

And if you feel a post breaks the rules, simply report it.

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My views are based my independent, objective and educated understanding of the widely known facts.

Your views are lies, period. Either willful or borne of ignorance, but lies all the same.

Your comments are less than constructive and sets a bad example as a moderator, and encourages other posters to do the same.

Please, remove your not so helpful comments ...
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Your comments are less than constructive…

 

Yours are less than truthful. Microsoft didn't "save" Apple. You could really only think that from having seen PoSV or reading something written by someone who only saw PoSV. 

 

Apple does not want to ban all other devices. They want to ban all devices that do not license or circumvent their IP. Any company would wish the same.

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edward, stop posting your ridiculous comments on AI. You are obviously a troll, and have made a fool of yourself here for days. enough already, just stop.

android sucks, but not as much as the people who come here to defend it.

New for MS dorks - Microsoft sucks just as much as the losers that come to AI to defend it

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Your comments are less than constructive…

Yours are less than truthful. Microsoft didn't "save" Apple. You could really only think that from having seen PoSV or reading something written by someone who only saw PoSV. 

Apple does not want to ban all other devices. They want to ban all devices that do not license or circumvent their IP. Any company would wish the same.

You and I may "disagree" on the relationships between Apple and MS but, your calling me "a lier" is over top and simply not acceptable especially when you are a moderator whose primary responsibility is to facilitate discussions.

Many of your comments defends Apple's position, and that is not your primary role of a moderator. I would advise you to take natural position, and stop intimidating posters whose comments you may disagree with.

Thanks in advance for your consideration.
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You and I may "disagree" on the relationships between Apple and MS but, your calling me "a lier" is over top and simply not acceptable… 

 

All right, and I'd agree with you, but when you spread lies when presented with the truth, there's only one other word for it. Apple saved themselves with the purchase of NeXT. The Microsoft stock payment was to clear out the "bad blood" in the industry. It ended the longstanding litigation and allowed both companies to look forward. Without the stock purchase, Apple would have done just as well, and wouldn't have had to deal with the horror that was IE.

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You and I may "disagree" on the relationships between Apple and MS but, your calling me "a lier" is over top and simply not acceptable… 

All right, and I'd agree with you, but when you spread lies when presented with the truth, there's only one other word for it. Apple saved themselves with the purchase of NeXT. The Microsoft stock payment was to clear out the "bad blood" in the industry. It ended the longstanding litigation and allowed both companies to look forward. Without the stock purchase, Apple would have done just as well, and wouldn't have had to deal with the horror that was IE.

There are "many" who contributed to Apple's turnaround and subsequent success which of course include Steve Jobs, Microsoft, Bill Gates and many other individuals and companies. But, to deny and/or calling it lie for their contributions however large or small is not constructive nor helpful.

This forum is not exclusive domain of Apple Fanboys, and it should openly accomodate various opposing views as long as they are objective and constructive.

My family proudly own and use more than a dozen Apple products daily but, we "disagree" with Apple crushing its competition when everybody in the industry copies one another including Apple, Google, Microsoft, Samsung ... etc.

I am aware that you and I disagree on Apple's character, and let's "respectly" leave at that without name calling ... blessing/e.
Edited by edwardkim - 9/4/12 at 6:09pm
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…to deny and/or calling it lie for their contributions however large or small is not constructive nor helpful.

 

To pretend that a single company or figure was responsible for it is also neither constructive nor helpful.

 

…we "disagree" with Apple chrushing its competition when everybody in the industry copies one another including Apple, Google, Microsoft, Samsung … etc.
 

Do you disagree that something you own and created should be protected?

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…to deny and/or calling it lie for their contributions however large or small is not constructive nor helpful.

To pretend that a single company or figure was responsible for it is also neither constructive nor helpful.
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…we "disagree" with Apple crushing its competition when everybody in the industry copies one another including Apple, Google, Microsoft, Samsung … etc.
Do you disagree that something you own and created should be protected?

My prior comments did not claim that MS was the "only" company who saved Apple. You simply read as such.

Yes, I agree with protecting IP you created and own. But, currently, everybody in this industry copies and/or buys inventions by others, including Apple, Google, MS, Samsung ... etc. As a result, sadly, many patents were awarded improperly, everybody is suing everybody, and it is in total mess.

Thus, protection of IP could not be enforced until the present broken US Patent and legal systems are "reformed" and the existing IP are cleaned-up according to the reformed systems. It is my understanding that US Congress is looking into this matter ... cheers/e.
Edited by edwardkim - 9/4/12 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by edwardkim View Post
My prior comments did not claim that MS was the "only" company who saved Apple. You simply read as such.

 

That's because you simply wrote it as such.


Apple was once nearly bankrupted, and the mighty Microsoft saved Apple.
 

Nothing anywhere about any other companies.


Thus, protection of IP could not be enforced until the present broken US Patent and legal systems are "reformed"

 

Could you just stop? There's nothing wrong with the legal system. There's nothing wrong with the patent system. You've distilled every single non-argument the Anti-Apple brigade has down into one sentence and managed to still have more substance in it than everything they've said combined. You scream for "reform" but have no explanation of what that means.

 

So you don't want to be tried by your peers anymore? So you don't want products to have protection anymore? What does it mean? You want "reform" (ruination) in a manner that most hurts Apple and most benefits the copyists. You're like the IAU gleefully banishing Pluto from planethood while completely ignoring that your new definition also banishes four other planets. 

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My prior comments did not claim that MS was the "only" company who saved Apple. You simply read as such.

That's because you simply wrote it as such.

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Apple was once nearly bankrupted, and the mighty Microsoft saved Apple.

Nothing anywhere about any other companies.
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Thus, protection of IP could not be enforced until the present broken US Patent and legal systems are "reformed"

Could you just stop? There's nothing wrong with the legal system. There's nothing wrong with the patent system. You've distilled every single non-argument the Anti-Apple brigade has down into one sentence and managed to still have more substance in it than everything they've said combined. You scream for "reform" but have no explanation of what that means.

So you don't want to be tried by your peers anymore? So you don't want products to have protection anymore? What does it mean? You want "reform" (ruination) in a manner that most hurts Apple and most benefits the copyists. You're like the IAU gleefully banishing Pluto from planethood while completely ignoring that your new definition also banishes four other planets. 

You put words in my mouth everywhere, and I do not want to waste my time correcting you as I have better things to do.

BTW, You should stepdown as a moderator, if you want to defend Apple. You can not be an objective moderator (facilitator) while you are arguing for one and against the other(s), unless you are a perfect God.
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Originally Posted by edwardkim View Post
You put words in my mouth everywhere, and I do not want to waste my time correcting you as I have better things to do. BTW, You should stepdown as a moderator, if you want to defend Apple. You can not be an objective moderator (facilitator) while you are arguing for one and against the other(s), unless you are a perfect God.

 

It's a pro-Apple website. Of course I can. In any case, I run spam deletion for the site and nothing more. I think I'll stay where I am. You have absolutely no actual argument and have been caught in lies. I have shown proof that you are changing your story because your original one was a falsehood. You have shown no disproof of what I have said nor proof of what you have said. All you can do in rebuttal is assault my character and my position. I think the argument is over. 

Originally posted by Relic

...those little naked weirdos are going to get me investigated.
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You put words in my mouth everywhere, and I do not want to waste my time correcting you as I have better things to do. BTW, You should stepdown as a moderator, if you want to defend Apple. You can not be an objective moderator (facilitator) while you are arguing for one and against the other(s), unless you are a perfect God.

It's a pro-Apple website... 

What took you so long to say that this website is for Apple fanboys only who worship Apple God mindlessly?

I belives in good character and quality of life, don't share your values, and am leaving for good ... peace/e.

PS - you should state on your "home page" in bold fonts that this website is for Apple fanboys only so that people don't post comments that you don't want to know or read ...
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What took you so long to say that this website is for Apple fanboys only who worship Apple God mindlessly?

 

It took me forever. Because I didn't say it. Because it's not the case. 

 

I… …am leaving for good … peace/e.
 

Peace.

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Which is why there's a court system in the United States to ensure that companies don't steal IP from other companies.
Too bad Samsung lost - I hope they can still afford to pay you for your trolling.

 

 

FYI I am not a Samsung fanatic. My point is that ordinary people decide what the best product for us. If someone think apple is the best for them then fine. would you think ordinary people mind about the patent? we are more into the usefulness of the product.

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