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post #41 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:29am

Such elitism here. While the Apple earbuds don't fit the shape of my ear well and tend to fall off (although, if I put on one of little 3rd-party slip-on thingies you can easily buy, they tend to stay better in my ears), I think they're decent. At least as good as the ones that I pay $10 - $20 for.

 

Most people just get new ones to fit their sound/budget/style preferences anyway, so it doesn't matter much.

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post #42 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:32am
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I think their complaint comes from the overemphasis Dre's line of headphones puts on bass and bass alone.

 

And through my own biases, you can see where the "over-" prefix originates.

Lots of people like lots of bass. Nothing wrong with that. For example, I like my Eminem that way, but not, say, my jazz.

 

Adjust the 'EQ' and off you go....

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post #43 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:34am

Fake.

 
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post #44 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:36am
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I'm quite happy with these ones:

 

 

 

 

 

These aren't the standard earbuds though. These are sold separately. I assume the ones in the article are purported to be the "new" standard ones, that come with iPhones, etc. 

They are great, but not tough enough. After these broke on me I bought a cheap pair of in-ear Senn ones and they've lasted the test of time.

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post #45 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:36am
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Fake.

 

They are real, I say.

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post #46 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:36am
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I'm quite happy with these ones:


These aren't the standard earbuds though. These are sold separately. I assume the ones in the article are purported to be the "new" standard ones, that come with iPhones, etc. 

RE: Apple's "premium" in-ear canal buds, I agree. The stock ones fit okay but always feel like they're going to fall out, and sometimes do. I changed over to these years ago and love them. The medium size tip fits me the best and seals out much of the gym noise (I use them mainly on the machines and treadmill). My wife prefers the stock for fit.

The two big issues with buds are personal taste and the extreme variability of human ears. Ears have a very large number of features packed into a rather small area, and each feature is pretty much infinitely variable. This makes design of a perfect earpiece that satisfies everyone impossible. Only custom molds can come close, but by definition are not an off the shelf solution.
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post #47 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:37am
Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post
Lots of people like lots of bass. Nothing wrong with that. For example, I like my Eminem that way, but not, say, my jazz.

 

Adjust the 'EQ' and off you go....

 

Oh, sure, and it absolutely depends on the music in question, but when the hardware is specifically tailored to only one genre, as so much hardware these days is for Rap and Friends, it becomes marginalized.

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post #48 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:52am

"This video is private"

So what's the point of posting videos on YouTube if you aren't going to share them?

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9/2/12 at 9:58am

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post #50 of 80
9/2/12 at 10:01am

What's seamless about these earbuds? They most definitely have a visible seam. Every website running this story is mindlessly parroting a falsehood.

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post #51 of 80
9/2/12 at 10:02am
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I think their complaint comes from the overemphasis Dre's line of headphones puts on bass and bass alone.

 

And through my own biases, you can see where the "over-" prefix originates.

 

I prefer Senns myself. Balanced, not boomy.

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post #52 of 80
9/2/12 at 10:08am
Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post
I prefer Senns myself. Balanced, not boomy.

 

Ooh! They were going to be my first choice. I've been looking for Bluetooth headphones for my iPod nano for MONTHS and I think I've settled with Sennheiser. Shame there's nowhere you can actually go to hear this stuff. And hopefully whatever I choose works with the Dock Connector Bluetooth dongle I found… 

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post #53 of 80
9/2/12 at 11:01am
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Let's hope that they leak less sound than the current ones do. Nothing worse than being stuck on a plane/train next to someone using Apple's bundled earphones and being able to hear all of their music.

They're not wearing them properly....

 

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post #54 of 80
9/2/12 at 11:13am
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I'm quite happy with these ones:

 

 

 

 

 

These aren't the standard earbuds though. These are sold separately. I assume the ones in the article are purported to be the "new" standard ones, that come with iPhones, etc. 

 

These are (IMO of course) the best designed earbuds you can get.  

There are third party ones with as good a sound quality, but they are generally ugly, ugly, ugly. Most manufacturers seem to think that black is better than white and that the more chrome edges and doo-dads and flashes it has the better.  

 

Edit: I also have to agree with Ireland that they are not very durable though.  They are much better now, but the first versions used to fall apart after about 6 months of use. They also don't contain, nor make available for sale ... spare earpieces.  Very annoying considering how much they cost.


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post #55 of 80
9/2/12 at 11:13am

These headphones actually have a pretty good about them if they're real - I'm surprised no one has ever thought to direct the audio directly into the ear canal before without having to resort to those horrible inner-ear headphones (that are actually really bad for your years).

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Dr Dre has the best ear buds for an iPhone or iPod.

No he doesn't. He doesn't make any headphones at all. Beat headphones are not worth the money. They are just Monster Cable headphones with his stupid logo slapped on the front with the price hiked up.

Sennheiser, Sony and BOSE are the ones to go for - for the same price as a set of beats you get far better quality both in build and in audio output.

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post #56 of 80
9/2/12 at 11:19am
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When I get a new device with Apple ear buds, I just hand them to my daughter. I can't use the Apple ear buds at all.

 

Agreed.  The ones that come with the devices are pretty awful.  

 

I find this new design kind of worrisome for that reason.  The chief failing of the standard earbuds is that they just kind of rest in the ears and there is a HUGE amount of sound leakage.  You can always tell who has just got their first iPod on the train because they have some crappy rap song with the volume turned all the way up and you can hear every note from three seats away.  

 

This new set seems like it might make the problem far worse, in that the buds seem designed to similarly just hang in the ear, but now the main speaker (presumably the BASS speaker), is turned to the side.  On first blush, this would seem to greatly exacerbate sound leakage although I will reserve judgement until these are both real and actually for sale.  

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post #57 of 80
9/2/12 at 11:40am
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Agreed.  The ones that come with the devices are pretty awful.  

 

I find this new design kind of worrisome for that reason.  The chief failing of the standard earbuds is that they just kind of rest in the ears and there is a HUGE amount of sound leakage.  You can always tell who has just got their first iPod on the train because they have some crappy rap song with the volume turned all the way up and you can hear every note from three seats away.  

 

This new set seems like it might make the problem far worse, in that the buds seem designed to similarly just hang in the ear, but now the main speaker (presumably the BASS speaker), is turned to the side.  On first blush, this would seem to greatly exacerbate sound leakage although I will reserve judgement until these are both real and actually for sale.  

It's worth pointing out that the hole in your ear in towards the front, so they may be onto something with this pointing the speaker forward behind the 'Tragus'. Only time will tell. They would be doing well to make them worse than the old buds, we'll see.


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post #58 of 80
9/2/12 at 11:50am
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?.....that are actually really bad for your years....

Yep, the older I get, the more generally I find that to be true......😉
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post #59 of 80
9/2/12 at 12:08pm

I was never fond of Apple's standard white headphones, so it's about time that they finally decided to totally go with a new design.

 

In three months time, Samsung will be releasing headphones that look just like these, except theirs will be a slightly different color, and they might be 1 mm larger.

 

And these brain dead retards will come here and insist that Apple didn't invent the headphone and they will swear on their mother's graves that it is purely a coincidence that the new Samsung earbuds look 99.97% identical to Apple's new headphones.

 

On a lot of Apple's products, you'll see this:

Designed by Apple in California    Assembled in China

 

If certain Android makers were honest, we'd all see something like this from now on their products:

Designed by Apple in California    Ripped off in Korea     Assembled in Korea/China


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post #60 of 80
9/2/12 at 12:11pm
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No he doesn't. He doesn't make any headphones at all. Beat headphones are not worth the money. They are just Monster Cable headphones with his stupid logo slapped on the front with the price hiked up.

Sennheiser, Sony and BOSE are the ones to go for - for the same price as a set of beats you get far better quality both in build and in audio output.

 

Beats audio is just a cheap gimmick. Beats Audio was even included on the mega flop called the HP TouchPad!

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post #61 of 80
9/2/12 at 1:00pm
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It's worth pointing out that the hole in your ear in towards the front, so they may be onto something with this pointing the speaker forward behind the 'Tragus'. Only time will tell. They would be doing well to make the worse than the old bugs, we'll see.

 

True.  I find it hard to envision just from these pictures anyway, but I'm sure if these are indeed an Apple design that it will likely be better than the previous iteration as always. 

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post #62 of 80
9/2/12 at 2:03pm
I have found with the current ear buds that when stuck straight in, as in the four holes on the back are facing the back of your ear and the main face is facing forward, the sound is significantly better. These seem to be doing just that but then correcting the odd shaft that would otherwise be sticking strait out.

I hope they are the real deal and believe most people will be impressed.
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post #63 of 80
9/2/12 at 2:15pm
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I was never fond of Apple's standard white headphones, so it's about time that they finally decided to totally go with a new design.

 

In three months time, Samsung will be releasing headphones that look just like these, except theirs will be a slightly different color, and they might be 1 mm larger.

 

And these brain dead retards will come here and insist that Apple didn't invent the headphone and they will swear on their mother's graves that it is purely a coincidence that the new Samsung earbuds look 99.97% identical to Apple's new headphones.

 

On a lot of Apple's products, you'll see this:

Designed by Apple in California    Assembled in China

 

If certain Android makers were honest, we'd all see something like this from now on their products:

Designed by Apple in California    Ripped off in Korea     Assembled in Korea/China

 

You left out Vietnam, where Samsung is making phones, such as the Galaxy S III.

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post #64 of 80
9/2/12 at 2:18pm
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Please oh please tell me that's a joke and you forgot to add /s at the end of the sentence.

About the earbud itself, I can only say: congratulations. Before tossing out my earbuds to the trash, I played around with their positioning and figured out what the Apple engineers have with these: the "sound hole" simply isn't positioned to properly direct the sound, and there is little seal between the ear and the earbud. With this, they'll improve bass response, as the sound source will more easily stay as close to the ear tube as possible, making it closer to the seal of a In-Ear. They also look nice.

I am aware that IEMs have been doing this for quite some time: my GR07s are also edge-firing. But this is the first edge-firing earbud I've seen.

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post #65 of 80
9/2/12 at 2:25pm
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I have found with the current ear buds that when stuck straight in, as in the four holes on the back are facing the back of your ear and the main face is facing forward, the sound is significantly better. These seem to be doing just that but then correcting the odd shaft that would otherwise be sticking strait out.
I hope they are the real deal and believe most people will be impressed.

I noticed that, too, but I couldn't get them to stay in that way. It was also the only way they didn't tear my cartilage up.

I would image Apple has tried many different designs to get the best sound for the cost of manufacturing. If this design becomes standard we are talking about a a couple hundred(?) million a year, right, so having a dozen designs for testing will be a drop in the bucket on cost for their next gen standard issue headphones.

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post #66 of 80
9/2/12 at 4:48pm
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Lot of people bashing this comment...I wonder if any of you have even tried Dre's headphones?

 

If not, you should. They are actually amazing headphones. And next time, do some research before you just pop off some ignorant response because a "rapper" invented them. Dre is a producer. 

 

I have, and they are absolute overpriced garbage. The best bang for buck headsets on the market today continue to be Audio Technicas, period.

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post #67 of 80
9/2/12 at 5:51pm
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Such elitism here. While the Apple earbuds don't fit the shape of my ear well and tend to fall off (although, if I put on one of little 3rd-party slip-on thingies you can easily buy, they tend to stay better in my ears), I think they're decent. At least as good as the ones that I pay $10 - $20 for.

 

Most people just get new ones to fit their sound/budget/style preferences anyway, so it doesn't matter much.

I'd say that most people simply use the regular earbuds.

Many (but I doubt most) do get new headphones.

 

I can't use the stock earbuds as it's like jamming a rock in my earhole. and I HATE it when that happens...

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post #68 of 80
9/2/12 at 6:49pm
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They are great, but not tough enough. After these broke on me I bought a cheap pair of in-ear Senn ones and they've lasted the test of time.

Agree - they sound awesome with the right fit, but they're terrible for running - impossible to keep the right seal and the soft touch material tends to perish much faster with perspiration. Then the microphone crapped out so they're in the bin and I'm listening to the... environment.

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post #69 of 80
9/2/12 at 9:05pm

Private because Apple has had it taken down? Which suggests this is for real. 

We'll know in about 11 days I guess

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9/3/12 at 4:57am
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Such elitism here. While the Apple earbuds don't fit the shape of my ear well and tend to fall off (although, if I put on one of little 3rd-party slip-on thingies you can easily buy, they tend to stay better in my ears), I think they're decent. At least as good as the ones that I pay $10 - $20 for.

 

Most people just get new ones to fit their sound/budget/style preferences anyway, so it doesn't matter much.

I agree with much of what you said.

 

However, "Most people," never buy new earbuds unless they loose or break the ones that came with the device. Much the same for the mouse they get with their system.

 

True, there are so-called aficionados, but it is virtually impossible to satisfy everyone with a single product. Ever ear us different. Including the two in our heads.

 

Over the years, I have had earbuds and headphones costing up to $600 and have listened with others priced well over a couple of grand. Right now I am using a pair of over-the-ear Cross-Fade V-MODA. Love the sound I get, but truthfully, I bought them at the time because I find earbuds annoying to use and they were the first headphones that I found that worked with my iPhone 4S with my TomTom car kit. Thus, my Dr Drea and Sony noise cancellations earbuds are now collecting dust.

 

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I'd say that most people simply use the regular earbuds.

Many (but I doubt most) do get new headphones.

 

I can't use the stock earbuds as it's like jamming a rock in my earhole. and I HATE it when that happens...

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9/3/12 at 6:20am
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Beats audio is just a cheap gimmick. Beats Audio was even included on the mega flop called the HP TouchPad!

Agreed.

My daughter received a pair of Beats headphones as a gift last year. The sound is only mediocre and the build quality stinks. The band broke and there's no way to repair it (they don't even sell a replacement band). A little research and it's clear that this is a major problem for these headphones. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but if I were going to spend $200 on a pair of headphones, I'd like them to last more than 6 months.
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post #72 of 80
9/3/12 at 7:02am
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Dr Dre has the best ear buds for an iPhone or iPod.

for "throwaway headphones... these don't these to bad... (the new apple model)

no!... the Shure 535's are...
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post #73 of 80
9/3/12 at 7:36am
Originally Posted by kimgh View Post
Private because Apple has had it taken down? Which suggests this is for real. 

We'll know in about 11 days I guess

 

Do we know that Apple took it down, or is it just private? Those are two completely different things.

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post #74 of 80
9/3/12 at 8:13am
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I'm quite happy with these ones:

 

 

 

 

 

These aren't the standard earbuds though. These are sold separately. I assume the ones in the article are purported to be the "new" standard ones, that come with iPhones, etc. 

 

The silicone tips transmitted to much "cable noise" for my liking.  I had to replace them with 3rd party foam replacement tips.

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post #75 of 80
9/3/12 at 9:26am

After reading a whole variety of posts it's now very clear to me how difficult it is to design and produce earbuds or in-ear headphones that satisfy everyone.

Why does Apple bashing and trolling make people feel so good?

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9/3/12 at 9:49am
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Lot of people bashing this comment...I wonder if any of you have even tried Dre's headphones?

If not, you should. They are actually amazing headphones. And next time, do some research before you just pop off some ignorant response because a "rapper" invented them. Dre is a producer. 

Any producer worth his salt will tell you that it's just a marketing gimmick. 50cent released his own headphones as well, as did snoop dog, and a hand full of others.

They're just monster cable headphones with the price jacked up. If they were about £100 cheaper they'd be good, but at the outrageous prices charged for them just makes them really poor value for money. The prices quoted for Beats can get you far better, professional quality studio headsets from Sannheiser or BOSE.

I regret ever buying my beats headphones - I rarely use them now - I tend to use my old JVCs instead.

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9/3/12 at 6:16pm
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RE: Apple's "premium" in-ear canal buds, I agree. The stock ones fit okay but always feel like they're going to fall out, and sometimes do. I changed over to these years ago and love them. The medium size tip fits me the best and seals out much of the gym noise (I use them mainly on the machines and treadmill). My wife prefers the stock for fit.
The two big issues with buds are personal taste and the extreme variability of human ears. Ears have a very large number of features packed into a rather small area, and each feature is pretty much infinitely variable. This makes design of a perfect earpiece that satisfies everyone impossible. Only custom molds can come close, but by definition are not an off the shelf solution.

 

Good point, mine took some getting used to. I think I even switched to one of the other sizes that were included in the package. 

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post #78 of 80
9/3/12 at 7:05pm
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I have, and they are absolute overpriced garbage. The best bang for buck headsets on the market today continue to be Audio Technicas, period.

 


Very true. ATH-M50 are pretty much the best sounding headphones under 500$.

 

I'm a studio engineer/producer and those are the closed-ear headphones we use to double check EQ and stereo imaging in the studio (and the ones we give vocalists).

 

In fact, Dr Dre actually uses them in the studio:

 

 

The most expensive "beats" (the 400$+ ones) actually sound pretty close to the M50s but they have less low end extension and are extremely uncomfortable due to the steel headband and padding that doesn't go around the ears. Plus, ATH-M50s cost 4 times less.

 

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9/4/12 at 5:03am

I just hate that the standard iPhone earbuds a)don't fit my ears well and b)I've owned my phone for 6 months and the right earpiece is at half volume.  Yes I've checked that the balance is right and I'm not in mono modo.

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9/4/12 at 11:08am
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Very true. ATH-M50 are pretty much the best sounding headphones under 500$.

 

I just wish the ATH-M50 came with the same removable cord setup the semi-open K240MkII comes with.  YMMV.

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