[quote]Originally posted by FotNS:
How does that prove the chip exists? This is some pretty weak evidence, especially as a basis for all the claims of super performance the G5 believers assert.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think what BRussell meant was that the "G5" name exists on Mot's ppc roadmap.
I don't see why Apple wouldn't call the next gen powermac a G5 and I also don't see them calling a new revision of the 74xx "G4" chip a "G5." Apple didn't coin the "Gx" moniker; Mot has been using it as a generational "code name" since the beginning of the ppc architecture.
I think Apple switched to the "G3" name not only because of the jump to the ppc750 but because they had run the course of the original PowerMac 6/7/8/9xxx numbering scheme. When they hit 10,000, was it going to be pronounced "PowerMac ten hundred/233 or ten thousand/233, eleven eight hundred/400 or eleven thousand eight hundred/400" or whatever? No, that sounds dumb. Hey Mot is calling the 750 a "G3." Short, simple, name scheme. Let's use that...
Bringing this rant back to the present, Apple has never said that the "PowerMac G5" is imminent. The have never even publicly used the term "G5" that I know of, they have only said no comment when asked of it.
The only reason people want a G5 so badly and the reason that clonenode thinks the G5 name is backfiring for Apple, is because they have been whipped into a mad frenzy listening to all the unsubstantiated RUMOR flying around the internet and even our own comfortable little corner of the net here on these boards. "pssst... hey I'm new here but my bowling partners, roommates, cousin who lives in Greenland, dates a guy that heard on the radio about a guy who new a guy who was working on the G5 and he said it has 80Gflops of power and will be out next week!!!"
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When the P4 first came out, it was getting beat by the PIII performance wise, and we on our high powermac horses pointed and snickered and said, "You suck." Now when this was happening I never once (and I work as a technician for a pc/mac sales and service company) heard the PC crowd get all worked up saying their salvation was the P5. Now that isn't exactly the same as our current scenario, but you get the point.
What we really want and need are faster, higher performance processors. I don't see how you can draw the conclusion that the G5 is the answer to this when technically the only "G5" that exists according to Mot's roadmap is an embedded processor.
OSX and games are going to benefit most from more bandwidth (mobo), and optimization/better drivers. Now according to everyone around here, 3d and rendering et. all seem to need the G5, but nobody wants to talk about what a revised, higher Mhz G4 / new mobo with all the speculated goodies will do performance-wise for 3d...
Before we say that Apple's marketing strategy is backfiring because of a ficticious processor they don't acknowledge and we don't have, how about we wait to see what they actually release...