Mitt Romney is Going to Win

Then he's going to win without my vote.

 

 

Remember my thread about false flag attacks?

I'm not going to call it for anybody just yet, but I do think that the election will be pretty close, and I also think that Obama is in deep shit and that the democrats are definitely beginning to panic.

 

Obama has practically nothing to run on, so since his record is not something that anybody can boast about, unless you were to count failures, all that the democrats have left is lying and demonizing Romney and using other tactics like playing the race card which appeals to their ignorant, racist base. The media is doing their best to cover up for the angry and failed president, but I don't believe that their tricks and lies will be as successful this time around. Unemployment is through the roof and Obama is anti-business, anti-success and there are more poor people and slaves to the system under Obama than ever before. 

 

And contrary to what many panicky and lying leftists claim, Clint Eastwood's act at the RNC was a tremendous success and I believe that it was very damaging to the dem's campaign. It's not so much that I am pro-Romney, I am merely anti-Obama, and the dude has had his chance and he's failed. It's time to kick the bum to the curb and give the next guy a shot. I truly believe that an actual empty chair as president would have been less damaging to the USA these past four years than Obama has been.

 

And in the worst case scenario that Obama were to win again, depending upon how many dead people and illegal aliens that the democrats register to vote, the good news is that I'll be ok for the next four years regardless, the people who will suffer the most, just like in the previous four years, will be his ignorant base of voters once again, which is largely comprised of minorities, welfare bums, racists and others who vote not based on ideas, but because many of them are just looking for free handouts, like those ridiculous and ugly looking women who believe that taxpayers like you and I should pay for their contraceptives and slutty behavior! 

 

Not that I ever believed any of them to begin with, but people are pretty damn stupid if they believe in Obama's countless lies and false promises yet again.

If it happens, the Republicans will have pulled off the greatest con of the last hundred years.  Republicans NEVER supported Obama the way Democrats fell in line behind Bush after 9/11.  There was no effort for compromise.  It was party first, country second as evidenced by the debt ceiling debacle and an abject refusal to help pass a jobs bill.  

 

If Romney gets elected, America will indeed be truly fucked.  Kiss the rest of the middle class goodbye.  Kiss all the advances labor unions provided for the American worker over the last century goodbye.  Kiss the social safety net goodbye.  

Amen.

If Romney wins WE ARE  especially seniors and the poor and also middle class. ALL IN DEEP SHIT! Four more years of Republicans horrible thought.
 

 

Yes, everyone is just too stupid to realize that perpetual 8+% unemployment is an incredible success. Better still Democrats have shown their willingness to lead by claiming to have been completely fooled by a man they claim is about as intelligent as a retarded monkey and thus have voted for wars as a party and  had their leader expand wars while collecting peace prizes.

 

They expanded spending to 25% of GDP and everyone is too stupid to see it is a revenue problem. It is the fault of the people who said we need to reduce spending to near historic high averages.

 

If Obama is re-elected, America will be completely fucked. All the people too smart to understand that the people who make the rules are the first to break them will be watching their lives be screwed over when they follow Democratic advice and borrow $100k for school and then have to live with Mom while working as a barista or bartender in the Obama economy. Then they can smell the freedom in the air as the government comes after them for money for their health care mandate and their student loans because the ONLY debt that cannot be discharged from a bankruptcy is government student loans.

 

We should all remember. You can fvck over the 1% with a bad debt. You can fvck over the big banks with bad debt. You can fvck over Wall St with bad debt. However you can never escape the government with a bad debt. They will come after you for your owed taxes, your owed health care mandate and your owed college debt all in the name of freedom.

 

Yes, because solidarity after a terrorist attack and supporting a corrupt stimulus bill that added trillions to the debt are exactly the same thing.

Your job may be at stake if Romney wins because he does not favor unions at all.Seniors like myself will have to get vouchers to try to get medicare and your Republican Government will give nothing away for free even when we deserve it all our lives.Obama is at least for the people and helped them with auto bailouts and keeping the country secure with killing OBL and ending the war in Iraq which Romney wants to start another war with Iran.I will be honest with you both have pros and cons but Romney has more cons.
 

Bill Clinton doesn't have very good coattails nor a very good endorsement record. Clinton has been on the losing side, almost all the time - and in some instances on deep blue turf (Massachusetts, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania(twice), Michigan, New Mexico). It appears he basically is willing to show up when someone who the pundits declare is a sure thing is instead losing badly. He tries to shore up their support, but in the end they mostly still lose.



Hillary Clinton 2008 Democrat Presidential Primary. (Lost to Democrat Barack Obama)



Terry McAuliffe 2009 VA Dem Gov Primary. (Lost to Democrat Craig Deeds)



Craig Deeds 2009 VA Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Bob McDonell)
 

Jon Corzine 2009 NJ Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Chris Christie)



Martha Coakley 2010 (Special Election) MA Dem U.S. Senate Nominee. (Lost to Republican Scott Brown)



Kendrick Meeks 2010 FL Dem U.S. Senate Nominee. (Lost to Republican Marco Rubio)
 

Alex Sink 2010 FL Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Rick Scott)



Virg Bernero 2010 MI Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Rick Snyder)



Ted Strickland 2010 OH Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican John Kasich)



Mike McWherter 2010 TN Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Bill Haslam)



Lee Fisher 2010 OH Dem U.S. Senate Nominee. (Lost to Republican Rob Portman)
 

Jack Conway 2010 KY Dem U.S. Senate Nominee. (Lost to Republican Rand Paul)



Joe Sestak 2010 PA Dem U.S. Senate Nominee. (Lost to Republican Pat Toomey)
 

Dan Onorato 2010 PA Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Tom Corbett)
 

Rory Reid 2010 NV Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Brian Sandoval)



Diane Denish 2010 NM Dem Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Susana Martinez)
 

Tom Barrett 2012 (Recall) WI Den Gov Nominee. (Lost to Republican Scott Walker)

 

 

I suspect this trend will continue in 2012.

Waits for the new favorite accusation: "cherry picking" 

 

Of course but in all seriousness the magnitude of many of those losses cannot be overstated and many were coming from blue states, blue incumbents or just even attempting to come from Clinton himself. Clearly Hillary was running as co-president and claiming her husband's record as her own. The result, a loss. Diane Denish was the Lt. Gov of New Mexico running after Bill Richardson, a Democrat and also Clinton cabinet member. She was groomed for the job but lost. Jon Corzine losing the union mecca of New Jersey to Chris Christie and Scott Brown taking the old Kennedy seat.

 

Is it possible a Clinton speech and endorsement cannot term a red district, county or state into a Democratic win, I'd buy that premise. However to say that a Clinton endorsement cannot even deliver Massachusetts?? That's really a bit sad.

SDW. It's going to be the guy giving a speech right now. That ain't Romney. However just keeping track of how many times you say stuff like this for future reference. ( wink if I could )

 

 

 

 

 Approval rating 45% and holding steady.

 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

 

The thing you're missing here is that you continue to use historical data to support your idea. This election and these times aren't anywhere near normal so using historical data as your cornerstone is a big mistake.

 

Here's a good opinion piece that you won't like : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/obamas-chances-in-2012-a-_b_1208751.html

Edited by jimmac - 9/6/12 at 8:22pm

Bite your tongue when you say this plastic character will win the election. HELL NO!
 

I haven't got time to go through each point right now, but I think this election will most likely be won by Obama. 

 

Gallup currently has Obama's approval rating at 49% and disapproval at 45%. That's as high as it was in December of the year he took office, and he may get a boost from the convention too- http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx

How does 52% job approval sound? 

 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

 

Will be interesting to see that number in 3-4 days.

Nobody deserves anything for free, not minorities, not anybody. People should be put to work if they're receiving public assistance. I can think of plenty of jobs that welfare peeps and other lazy people can do. 

Yeah, it could still rise higher. Often people share their positive perspectives with friends and family, further extending the reach of the impact. Mind you a 7% increase over the course of 3 days is certainly worth celebrating, especially when Romney had no gains at all from his convention! 

 

Yes. It could. It could go lower also. But then these poll numbers don't have the latest economic news baked into them.

 

 

 

Why? For whom?

The great thing about the DNC was people who watched it won't necessarily just abandon all hope in Obama just because the job growth numbers weren't higher. They really got their message across well. We may see a fall in a few days but it won't be as much as it would have been had this convention not taken place. A lot of people are looking at the next four years now, and Obama was pretty humble about it too, which went a long way. I think that helped to bind the voters to him.

While helping out our fellow man is noble, there are cases of major abuse in the welfare system. Some folks are using it to avoid working at all and that needs to stop. Able bodied people should not be allowed to spend EBT on beer and cigarettes and to not try to get a job. If unemployment can have rules about how you have to at least be trying to get a job, why can't welfare. And why can't systems be set up to keep folks from using food stamps on whatever, selling them for cash and such.

Perhaps if we eliminate the means to abuse the system folks will stop screaming to just bring it to a full stop.

 

There will likely be little to no gain for Obama out of this convention. I'm sure the media will find some way to create a bounce because those of us that follow the polls have already noted that the 2010 polls were all off, the metapoll aggregators and poll analysts have almost all been purchased by Democratic media interests, and when we can get to the raw numbers, they've been horrible all year. (Examples polls that are +7 to 9 points Democrats often show Obama +2 points on Romney)

 

The biggest change won't come from those of us who are plugged in or involved in politics. It will come from those who largely vote their gut or their pocketbook. This speech was easy to like. Obama is easy to like. The speech was basically straight up recycled from 2008. He's going to cut the deficit in half, give us a peace dividend, create millions of new jobs with green energy, etc.

 

The problem is that we've had him for four years already and those promises ring hollow now. The number of viewers for the Democratic convention are down by as much as 50%. Obama isn't historic anymore. He is a guy who wants to be reelected and who has not been able to move the needle enough in economic terms during his first term. 

 

 

Of course they won't abandon hope for him. They never did abandon him. The same people that will be cause Obama to not be reelected will be the same group that abandoned the GOP in 2006. They don't think deeply about it. No opinion piece really hits them. They largely go by feel and in 2006 it was a bit too much spending, a bit too little growth, a war that had gone on too long and someone new promising to fix it all. Democrats ran on bringing the troops home, lowering spending through peace dividends, getting oil men out of office to lower the price of gas, etc.

 

Obama is going to have literally millions of people who have written him off. They wrote off his party in 2010 in the House. The rest will be coming this fall.

Well good luck with all of that. Do I think the election will be close? Yes most definitely. Will Mr. Romney and Mr. Paul Ryan AKA ( death to medicare ) be in the Whitehouse next? I really don't think so. If I'm right SDW I'll try to explain again how these times we're in are different and historical stats don't apply as much as they usually would.

Looks like this campaign is already taking a heavy toll on Romney. In his acceptance speech he looked drained, weak and teary. I wonder how he'll cope with the increasing pressure of the campaign compared to his much younger and healthier rival.

 

Here's some photos Mother Jones have compiled of Romney's pains, he really looks quite depressed. I almost feel sorry for him-

 

 

Interesting. When you gave both of them their complete physicals, did you enjoy it more when you had Obama turn his head and cough?

 

 

 

Seriously, I'm really curious: How much?

You don't need to be a doctor to see that Romney's struggling with something. I hope he picks himself up because Obama needs to win this election on his merits, not because his opponent couldn't take the strain of it all.That just lessens his victory. Perhaps Obama's bounce from the convention will be a wake up call for Romney and he'll pull himself back together again? I sure hope so, for Obama's sake as much as his.

 

 

Just to prove I'm not bias. Here's Biden who's actually older than Romney is-

 

 

 

And all those years so many doctors wasted going to medical school when they could have just made superficial diagnosis from photographs.

 

 

 

If Obama wins it will not be on his merits.

 

 

 

You're priceless! 

 

 

 

How does showing pictures of Biden prove you're not biased?

 

Again though...I'm really curious: How much?

Nice photos, Hands.  Just called my wife in for a peek; she worked in personnel at a large company for over a decade.

 

Mitt looks old, tired and lacking in confidence, and looks like he could be having problems at home of some sort.  He doesn't seem satisfied with his life.  He also looks frustrated, as if he can't clear something.  If he came for an interview, she would probe his family life.  He's proud, but lacking in humility and humor.

 

Joe looks healthy and happy.  He exudes confidence. Proud, but humble and with humor.

 

That is just on these photos.  Of course, if you pick and choose well enough, most people show a variety of emotive states over even a brief period of time.  With a different set, you could possibly flip the two impressions.  That's why an interview is important. 

 

Maybe it's just me, but I think she's a good judge of character.  But then, I'm one of those dangerous liberals.  

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Perhaps Mittens knew what the polls would say...

 

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/09/obama-expands-lead-in-three-tracking-polls/1#.UEwEJkJK5JM

 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html

Edited by Bergermeister - 9/8/12 at 11:22pm

Isn't this just precious. We have a couple of liberal Democrats doing superficial analysis of a guy they don't like and coming up with negative conclusions.

 

Brilliant.

 

It's hard to know why he looks so despondent. Certainly he's failed to invigorate anyone, even his own party are luke warm about him at best. I guess that could cause a deep sense of rejection, enough to bring on a bout of depression. 

 

Here's some more pics, all pointing to the same conclusions-

 

So you think Romney's just fine do you? He can certainly seem it at times, but he's showing increasing signs of acute stress, and that will damage his chances greatly. No one, not even Repubs, want a president who's mentally troubled, for one it's a sign of weakness to our foes abroad. 

 

I have no idea. I'm not in a position to make that evaluation.

 

 

 

Again...will you tell me? How much?

Nate Silver isn't finding such a tide favoring Romney, and his calls seem to be more accurate than most projections.