New photos of alleged next-gen iPhone show off 'uni-body' design's thinness - Page 3

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Originally Posted by msimpson 

 

And you would be the expert on getting excited holding something a millimeter thick in your hand...

So I take it paxman has met you?

Shut up and take my money!

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Originally Posted by dillio 

What I don't know about it:

• if they'll make the home button more reliable, so it does not stop working well after almost two years.

 

It's due to the layer of carbon formed between the button and the contact below,

Clean off the carbon with an eraser it will work fine (I know you will tell me how to open up the phone to do it, just google for the process)

Not referring to just this forum but forums in general.  Would people speak to people face to face in the way they do in forums.  Just a few examples from this thread that is actually a very mild thread and only 3 pages long.

1. It's astonishing just how completely stupid and uninformed that sounds.

2. Indeed. As seen above, they're pathetically rehashing LAST YEAR'S arguments

3. Not to mention brainless, witless, useless.......

4. wow! how ignorant can one be? you are using a 4 year old 3G and you think this is crap? please remove head from rectum and take a deep breath of fresh air.... try it, you'll like it....

I think it is sad that talking about tech can reduce us to insulting each other.  Just imagine how bad we would be if we were talking about something that is actually important.

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Originally Posted by qualar 

Not referring to just this forum but forums in general.  Would people speak to people face to face in the way they do in forums.  Just a few examples from this thread that is actually a very mild thread and only 3 pages long.

 

1. It's astonishing just how completely stupid and uninformed that sounds.

 

2. Indeed. As seen above, they're pathetically rehashing LAST YEAR'S arguments

 

3. Not to mention brainless, witless, useless.......

 

4. wow! how ignorant can one be? you are using a 4 year old 3G and you think this is crap? please remove head from rectum and take a deep breath of fresh air.... try it, you'll like it....

 

I think it is sad that talking about tech can reduce us to insulting each other.  Just imagine how bad we would be if we were talking about something that is actually important.

This is like wrestling, we throw insults at each other and then tomorrow is another day.

Nothing to get upset about.

PS no animal was injured or harmed during the creation of this series.

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Originally Posted by kotatsu 

It will be interesting to see what the reaction to this is. Times are changing, and I'm not sure if Apple can afford to take it easy anymore. 

I agree. I personnaly find this design wonderful. It's iOS that needs more work imo. Apple is known for its great innovative ideas in OS design, and they haven't changed iOS much in the last three years.

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Originally Posted by qualar 

Not referring to just this forum but forums in general.  Would people speak to people face to face in the way they do in forums.  Just a few examples from this thread that is actually a very mild thread and only 3 pages long.

 

1. It's astonishing just how completely stupid and uninformed that sounds.

 

2. Indeed. As seen above, they're pathetically rehashing LAST YEAR'S arguments

 

3. Not to mention brainless, witless, useless.......

 

4. wow! how ignorant can one be? you are using a 4 year old 3G and you think this is crap? please remove head from rectum and take a deep breath of fresh air.... try it, you'll like it....

 

I think it is sad that talking about tech can reduce us to insulting each other.  Just imagine how bad we would be if we were talking about something that is actually important.

I've come to accept this as being typical on AI, and moderators do nothing about it. Too bad. Most tech sites aren't this way though.

Thin enough, long enough, BUT not wide enough - and so the 4 inch screen is just not big enough in competition with other smartphones with screen sizes 4.5 inches and above.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider 

The special event is set take place on Sept. 12 at 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern...

What about the people who live in the Mountain and Central time zones?

I was slightly underwhelmed by the exterior design too and was hoping for something less incremental. Personally I've always liked the look (metal back, thinness) of the iPod Touch and was hoping that the iPhone would move in that direction. This would also be consistent with the design language of the iPad too. As other forum members have already pointed out, some symmetry and balance also appears to have been lost, especially if the back panel is two-tone. I guess l'll just have to wait and see how it looks and feels when I go to the store.

Having said all that, the level of competition in design terms is weak. Most phones are pretty drab affairs and look cheap too. The best alternative is probably the Nokia Lumia phones - clean and balanced exterior design (although perhaps a tad too thick), and you do get a choice of colour too.

It'd also be interesting to know how much the design has been compromised by a) hardware/manufacturing/robustness constraints, and b) the volume of work passing through the design department.

As for iOS, all these new features are certainly making it feel more and more congested. But that's progress :)

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Originally Posted by davestall 

 

Its so you will buy all new accessories.  The dozens of existing docks will block the new headphone jack; so you just go buy all new docs or a bunch of flimsy dongels.

Flimsy? If they're doing what I think they're doing, it won't be flimsy. See "structural" in my previous post.

Meh

Yes. I would. With absolutely no expression on my face nor emotion in my voice. I would say that, not to incense, but to highlight just how wrong said act is, emphasizing it further through the very lack of visual or auditory emphasis. I mean not to devolve arguments, which is why using no expression and no emotion is the cleanest way to fight, and why text-based discussions are so pure. If text is written as simply text, any perceived emotion is just that, and is the fault of the reader if they misinterpret, misconstrue, or otherwise mistake.

Originally Posted by ClemyNX 
Most tech sites aren't this way though.

Yeah, that's not a complete fabrication… 

Originally Posted by SolipsismX 
Is your phone less than 2 years old? I bought my iPhone 4 the day it came out so it's about 2.25 years old now. I have never gone a day without using that phone. I've dropped it, I've thrown it around, I've never had it cleaned.

Same here, but with the first gen. Though it isn't any less responsive (I keep my iPhone pocket empty always).

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Originally Posted by hill60 

 

So, I guess the addition of a second noise cancelling microphone with the 4, was a total waste of time then?

I don't think it's a noise canceling issue.  I think that actual call sound quality hasn't improved.  I'll admit now that I'm not an expert in this field. It may be cell tower issues, it may be AT&T, it may be the antennas in the iPhone, it may even be a combination of all of them.  Regardless of what's actually causing it, I wish it would be addressed.  If we're able to stream radio and podcasts that sound crisp and undistorted, why can't we have phone calls that are crisp and undistorted?  And then to make matters worse, the sound quality deteriorates significantly more if the other person is also on a cell phone.  

Perhaps it's that we've all been using cell phones for a decade or two and we've become so used to the awful sound of conversations on them, that we simply don't expect them to improve.  I do expect them to improve though.  The Apps and all, are just fine.  I want calls that don't sound like they are on a cell phone.  The noise canceling features are a nice touch, but if the call itself sounds bad, it's like putting sprinkles on an already melted ice cream cone.  If I can be at home and receive a call on my landline and I can tell immediately that the other person is on a cellphone even if they are in a quiet room, that ought to tell you something.  The sound quality of actual phone calls is significantly lacking, and ought to be addressed.

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Originally Posted by paxman 

A millimetre is significant. Wait until you get one. The excitement will be in you hand.

You're joking, right?
 

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Originally Posted by Harbinger 

Part of the decreased thickness might be due to replacing the glass back with Al.

 

To answer skeptics who poo-poo what they perceive as incremental change in design, consider this - how much has the overall shape of the Porsche 911 (feel free to replace with your fav luxury sports car) changed overall? If you're observant, you'd have noticed subtle changes every few years representing advances in headlights, metal fabrication technique, etc. All the while, the engine improved much more dramatically but also imperceptibly to those not able to drive one.
 

The point is that when you have developed a classic design, you evolve it deliberately and not just for the sake of change.

A Car-Consumer Electronics comparison. No way it's a flawed analogy. No sir. 
 

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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 

 

It's THAT, and everything else as a total package. 

 

The iPhone is just beautifully put together and it runs iOS. Everyone knows what that means. 

With strange RF windows that break the otherwise decent unibody design. And a OS with an interface that wasn't made for more than the stock 2007 apps and instead had additional function slapped to it as an afterthought.

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Originally Posted by cameronj 

I get excited about it, in a bad way.  Keep that tiny mm and devote it entirely to battery!

Exactly.

Originally Posted by JeffDM 
Have there been spy shots of the alleged dock adapter?

None yet that I've seen.

Originally Posted by Lukeskymac 
You're joking, right?

On something like an iMac, a millimeter is meaningless. On a phone that is 9mm thick to begin with, 1mm is significant. You can't not understand this. Not that I don't agree with you that it should've been given to battery… 

Originally Posted by PeterAlt 
Does this add more unnecessary "stretch" to its already elongated taller screen design?

No.

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Originally Posted by Harbinger 

 

 

In keeping with the Porsche analogy, each version of the 911 has at least the same amount if not more gusto under the hood. So we can expect each iPhone to never regress in specs such as speed, battery life and camera.

The biggest difference here between the Porsche 911 and the iPhone...

Porsche knows when it has a good design and sticks with it, only making minor improvements, and that's it.

Apple tries to re-invent look of the iPhone every other generation.

Apple needs to take a queue from Porsche.  The Gen 1 iPhone was a brilliant design, Gen 2 & 3 were just about there...minus the wonderful aluminum chassis.  Why you squared everything off and replaced the durable metal with plastic (and worse yet) then glass is beyond me.

Let's quit this "thinness" pissing-contest you obviously are only playing against yourself and go back to form-follows-function.  It's a hand-held device, it needs more ergonomics!  Thinner doesn't make it any more comfortable to hold.

You know what I was thinking the next best evolution would be to make the phone more like the iPad Gen 1.   Agreed people need flat edges to take photos and what-nots, but give me the subtly curved back again, please.

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Originally Posted by Gatorguy 

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/09/goophone-apple-iphone/all/1
If anyone wants to see the Chinese version...

that's equally funny and annoying and aggravating all at the same time.

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Originally Posted by hentaiboy 

My fav luxury sports car. Change is good.

 

 

And 911 sales are tanking http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/01/cayenne-aside-are-porsche-sales-dropping.html

911 sales were allegedly "tanking" back in the 80's too.  Yet it's still around.

Actually, the analogy should have been between Apple and Ferrari.  They both are the company everyone wants to beat, and they constantly are trying to re-invent the industry.

I prefer the 911.  Classic good looks that keeps getting better.

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Originally Posted by lghulm 

I remember that the original iphone was described as a design that followed the "golden ratio" a ratio of measurements evident throughout nature and in which we can perceive a lot of natural beauty.

 

There is something about the new iphones design that just puts me off - it's not a conscious thought I can articulate, just a vague unease that the measurements seem out... perhaps because they have abandoned the golden ratio...

the golden ratio is roughly the mathematically expressed by "phi", which is 1.6180339887...or roughly 16:10.

So no, not even the screen of any of the past iPhones have been these proportions.