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I won't be surprised if Micron gets in on the action for Apple.

 

I think Micron is trying to acquire Elpida and save it from bankruptcy.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


You don't think losing over $12 billion in revenue a year wouldn't affect their business? You don't think that losing 7.5% of their revenue is a big deal? Unbelievable!

Just because Apple isn't buying the memory doesn't mean Samsung is going to lose revenue. Flash memory anymore is essentially a commodity. If Apple is shifting their purchasing to other suppliers, that simply means those suppliers will be limited in what they can offer to others, who will therefore look to Samsung.  

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I can understand that.  The taller screen on the 6th generation iPhone is not a big deal in my opinion.  What really would have made it for me is a wider and taller screen.  This next generation iPhone reminds me of the 5th generation iPod Nano that had the tall screen.  Kind of gaudy.

Almost, if not all, large-screened smartphones have a 16:9 aspect ratio. You know, a too-tall-not-wide-enough display for you. If you want a wider aspect ratio, I can point you to the current gen iPhone 4S with a 3:2 aspect ratio. The next gen iPhone is simply going widescreen like everyone else is already doing.

 

It seems like your issue with the new iPhone display is that they didn't make it larger than 4 inches. I would concede that maybe you're issue is that Apple isn't keeping a 3:2 aspect ration on an enlarged 4 inch display, but you've already previously pointed to other smartphones with 16:9 aspect ratios that you feel are superior to the next iPhone's display. So your "too tall" opinion is kind of bogus. Why don't you just say you want a larger than 4 inch display? It's more honest than saying the next iPhone's display is too tall for your liking when everyone else's displays were too tall before the iPhone was even going in that direction.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

You don't think losing over $12 billion in revenue a year wouldn't affect their business? You don't think that losing 7.5% of their revenue is a big deal? Unbelievable!
Just because Apple isn't buying the memory doesn't mean Samsung is going to lose revenue. Flash memory anymore is essentially a commodity. If Apple is shifting their purchasing to other suppliers, that simply means those suppliers will be limited in what they can offer to others, who will therefore look to Samsung.  

Unless there is overcapacity in the industry, which there has been from time to time.
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Originally Posted by e_veritas View Post

Just because Apple isn't buying the memory doesn't mean Samsung is going to lose revenue. Flash memory anymore is essentially a commodity. If Apple is shifting their purchasing to other suppliers, that simply means those suppliers will be limited in what they can offer to others, who will therefore look to Samsung.  

 

So which of their competitors will Samsung sell to?

 

Who has the money?

 

Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Pantech or any of the other OEM's fighting over the crumbs Apple and Samsung leave behind.

 

They won't be getting cash up front anymore.

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I love that they're pretending it's "trolling" and that it's something I actually believe, and then they go on to want to block me. I don't get it… have these people never heard of sarcasm or satire before? For heaven's sake.

Did anyone notice I can't bring myself to call it the "iPhone 5", even in my Anti-Apple Brigade fantasy… 

 

The fact that you don't believe it, and are only posting it in hopes of spurring negative comments, is by definition "trolling."

As a moderator, you should A) know that, and B) be above such behavior.

 

And you wonder why users wish they could block you.

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Yeah, right Samsung has proved they are untrustworthy as a supplier, there are obviously leaks between their component supply business and their device designers.

 

Creating a glut could backfire slightly as Samsung will have to dump excess inventory.

 

Not excess inventory, but excess production capacity. Which may need to be kept active by discounting chip prices...which Apple will snatch up to the detriment of the overall Samsung bottom line.

 

The court case revealed that while the Samscum chip division actively fed info to the Samscum handset division. 

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Why is this about personalities... It's supposed to be about tech topics of interest to Apple users... Use FaceBook for the other...

This is the ONLY board I know of where the Global Moderator actively derails about half the threads with his own personal issues or arguments. He needs to fade gently into the background so the threads are on topic.

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post #49 of 131

One other thing... Apple bought an Israeli company that has developed a way to get longer life out of the memory chips. Apple, knowing Samscum's unethical bald-faced copying, may want to bring these chips into the market without worrying about Samscum ripping the IP off.

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I think Micron is trying to acquire Elpida and save it from bankruptcy.

 

Good to know as I've been following Micron to determine when to invest in it.

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Wish we could block moderators because I am getting real tired of reading TS posts.
 

 

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I am with you. Instead of moderating its more like trolling.

 

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I second that motion ...
 

You poor babies!

 

You want some tissues for your issues?

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I second that motion ...


And thousands of others 3rd the motion.

Say goodbye to Appleinsider - when they hand the keys over to a seething Apple fanatic troll who has already been 'editing' posts. 

 

Hear that Appleinsider?... the sound of your ad revenue crashing to the floor...

We have already pulled you from our media buying list.

 

Even Apple isn't stupid enough to put fanatics in charge of their product.... have you paid no attention at all???

Talk about a fatal miscalculation. It's the forums that make the site, and you know that.

 

Will be refreshing to see who steps up to replace this propaganda blog.

 

C'est la vie

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Lets get rid of all samsung manufacturing and depend on other companies making them grow and prosper.

Waiting for you to name some companies....

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Waiting for you to name some companies....

My bet is on one or many Chinese brands that haven't export to the U.S. Those that don't sell their stuff in America but have enough volume to make tidy profit, and perhaps safe from Apple's lawsuits. Abandond America and go for greener pasture in China seems to be in Samsung's one of many battle plans.

 

To get the actual name, is there someone here living in Shanghai, Hong Kong or Beijing that walks through mobile phone malls and markets on regular basis? I need someone like that to answer the question. Anybody?

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Waiting for you to name some companies....

By the way, how the local Finnish news outlets response to Lumia release?

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And thousands of others 3rd the motion.

Say goodbye to Appleinsider - when they hand the keys over to a seething Apple fanatic troll who has already been 'editing' posts. 

 

Hear that Appleinsider?... the sound of your ad revenue crashing to the floor...

We have already pulled you from our media buying list.

 

Even Apple isn't stupid enough to put fanatics in charge of their product.... have you paid no attention at all???

Talk about a fatal miscalculation. It's the forums that make the site, and you know that.

 

Will be refreshing to see who steps up to replace this propaganda blog.

 

C'est la vie

Roughly Drafted is dead. who is next; Apple Insider or MacRumour?

 

BUT, has the gold rush of Apple blogosphere really over?

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This is the ONLY board I know of where the Global Moderator actively derails about half the threads with his own personal issues or arguments. He needs to fade gently into the background so the threads are on topic.

I wonder sometimes if TS is a hatchet man on AI's payroll to drive up traffic and not the real mod.

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Hook, line & sinker...
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Wish we could block moderators because I am getting real tired of reading TS posts.
 

 

i don't understand why he's here... do Apple supporters troll Microsoft/Android blogs?

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It's funny how so many have the 'kill it with fire' attitude towards Samsung, yet to me they are the only reliable ones around. Take the Retina Macbook Pro for example. For those that don't know the screen is for the most part made by LG with Samsung producing the extra to meet demand. The big problem is many many people are having major IR issues with the LG version of them - myself included. I'm on the 3rd one which finally has a Samsung screen and the screen issues are gone, same for everyone else that's reported. While screens aren't memory, be careful what you wish for.

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And thousands of others 3rd the motion.
Say goodbye to Appleinsider - when they hand the keys over to a seething Apple fanatic troll who has already been 'editing' posts. 

Hear that Appleinsider?... the sound of your ad revenue crashing to the floor...
We have already pulled you from our media buying list.

Even Apple isn't stupid enough to put fanatics in charge of their product.... have you paid no attention at all???
Talk about a fatal miscalculation. It's the forums that make the site, and you know that.

Will be refreshing to see who steps up to replace this propaganda blog.

C'est la vie



Get lost with your pouting. Au revoir.

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It's funny how so many have the 'kill it with fire' attitude towards Samsung, yet to me they are the only reliable ones around.

People got too much time and too much coffee on their hands waiting in unemployment queues or sulking in coffee bars, which they said one-third of AI regulars are.

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Quiet, towel head.

WTF?! Please tell me I'm reading that out of context.

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WTF?! Please tell me I'm reading that out of context.

Maybe, but anantksundaram's attitude and grating languages make it harder for me not to cross that line.

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WTF?! Please tell me I'm reading that out of context.

You were not.

 

Fairthrope knows fully well that's a racist, derogatory term.

 

About consistent with the level of dialog we can expect from the fandroids that infest and pollute this forum.

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How exactly would a person with 4 posts know that?

 

Ever hear

   "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. Mark Twain"?

 

It is a gift to listen carefully and speak when it truly counts -- not to mention that everyone that has 5 posts or more was once in his shoes.

 

Edit: Corrected quote to actual wording and added author


Edited by Damn_Its_Hot - 9/7/12 at 8:18am
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Maybe, but anantksundaram's attitude and grating languages make it harder for me not to cross that line.

I find it hard to imagine he said anything that would require you use such an offensive, racist slur.

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So which of their competitors will Samsung sell to?

 

Who has the money?

 

Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Pantech or any of the other OEM's fighting over the crumbs Apple and Samsung leave behind.

 

They won't be getting cash up front anymore.

This comment clearly shows how myopic your view becomes when you add the word 'Apple' into the discussion. Flash memory is used in thousands of devices other than smartphones, such as USB drives, SSD drives, and other consumer devices. Smartphones themselves only account for 16% of total NAND memory use.

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Wish we could block moderators because I am getting real tired of reading TS posts.
 

agreed.

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I love that they're pretending it's "trolling" and that it's something I actually believe, and then they go on to want to block me. I don't get it… have these people never heard of sarcasm or satire before? For heaven's sake.

Did anyone notice I can't bring myself to call it the "iPhone 5", even in my Anti-Apple Brigade fantasy… 

Your job is to moderate the forum, not to post, post and post your opinions, sarcasm and satire. If you just want to be a regular member, then that would be a different story. 

 

I want to block you because I am tired of seeing all your comments...plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by lamewing View Post
Your job is to moderate the forum, not to post, post and post your opinions, sarcasm and satire.

 

That's right.


…post, post and post your opinions, sarcasm and satire.

 

I do this when I'm not doing that.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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This is the ONLY board I know of where the Global Moderator actively derails about half the threads with his own personal issues or arguments. He needs to fade gently into the background so the threads are on topic.

Note that T.S. was a moderator on Mac Rumors for about 3 years and it was the same there. 

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This comment clearly shows how myopic your view becomes when you add the word 'Apple' into the discussion. Flash memory is used in thousands of devices other than smartphones, such as USB drives, SSD drives, and other consumer devices. Smartphones themselves only account for 16% of total NAND memory use.

Apple still accounts for almost 30% of worldwide NAND flash memory demand though.
http://www.storagenewsletter.com/news/marketreport/apple-nand-flash-ihs-isuppli
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Note that T.S. was a moderator on Mac Rumors for about 3 years and it was the same there. 

We wouldn't mind if you went back to trolling on MR. Looks like you have experience doing this on multiple forums.

What happened there? Did they kick you out?
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Originally Posted by lamewing View Post
Note that T.S. was a moderator on Mac Rumors for about 3 years and it was the same there. 

 

Oh, so that's why they banned me! Now I get it, see, I was a moderator the entire time, they never told me, and so I never did my job, and I guess they got fed up with that!

 

They really ought to tell their moderators that they're moderators. Otherwise they'll keep acting like regular users and then… never… 

 

Do you get it yet, because the joke starts to lose its luster after a while.


Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post
We wouldn't mind if you went back to trolling on MR. Looks like you have experience doing this on multiple forums.
What happened there? Did they kick you out?

 

At least if he went back there he wouldn't have to make up lies about other people here. And if he went back there, he'd see that he's lying about more than just that, since the forums have only gotten more anti-Apple since I last was there. 

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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Originally Posted by Slurpy

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I love that they're pretending it's "trolling" and that it's something I actually believe, and then they go on to want to block me. I don't get it… have these people never heard of sarcasm or satire before? For heaven's sake.

Did anyone notice I can't bring myself to call it the "iPhone 5", even in my Anti-Apple Brigade fantasy… 

Your job is to moderate the forum, not to post, post and post your opinions, sarcasm and satire. If you just want to be a regular member, then that would be a different story. 

 

I want to block you because I am tired of seeing all your comments...plain and simple.

 

This theme is getting really obnoxious. TS posts mostly on topic, even if you disagree with his views, which, of course, you mostly do. Obviously it is quite intolerable for you not to be able to block everyone that you disagree with, so perhaps you should go and find a forum that caters to your preferences rather than whining incessantly on this one.

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Apple still accounts for almost 30% of worldwide NAND flash memory demand though.
http://www.storagenewsletter.com/news/marketreport/apple-nand-flash-ihs-isuppli


And there's a lot of it in Macbook Pro Retinas and Airs

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This theme is getting really obnoxious. TS posts mostly on topic, even if you disagree with his views, which, of course, you mostly do. Obviously it is quite intolerable for you not to be able to block everyone that you disagree with, so perhaps you should go and find a forum that caters to your preferences rather than whining incessantly on this one.

 

Agreed. Freedom of speech -- and starting a rant thread cause someone annoys you is really annoying.

 

Don't always agree with TS but personally I can't think of anyone here I always agree with (even myself after reading other arguments later sometimes).

 

If you can't handle his posts and are now aware you can't block his posts, either ignore him (or hopefully not) the whole site. Cheers.

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And thousands of others 3rd the motion.

Say goodbye to Appleinsider - when they hand the keys over to a seething Apple fanatic troll who has already been 'editing' posts. 

 

Hear that Appleinsider?... the sound of your ad revenue crashing to the floor...

We have already pulled you from our media buying list.

 

Even Apple isn't stupid enough to put fanatics in charge of their product.... have you paid no attention at all???

Talk about a fatal miscalculation. It's the forums that make the site, and you know that.

 

Will be refreshing to see who steps up to replace this propaganda blog.

 

C'est la vie

WOW! Who pissed on your Cheerios this morning?

 

Take a deep breath, count to ten and think again. Or not, and just go away mad.

 

BTW: I for one find your numbers ("thousands of others") hard to believe. Care to try to back that up in any kind of way?

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The fact that you don't believe it, and are only posting it in hopes of spurring negative comments, is by definition "trolling."

As a moderator, you should A) know that, and B) be above such behavior.

 

And you wonder why users wish they could block you.


Yes, I'd like to block him as well or just get another moderator instead.

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