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post #1 of 25
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could somebody tell me how to create a border like in this picture



which makes even the worst of holiday junkshots look like a work of art.

Is this some option in Photoshop, or should I go plunk around in illustrator, or some other place entirely.
post #2 of 25
It looks like that was done in the darkroom, not in the software. BUT, if you want to fake it in Photoshop, all you really need to do is to scan the entire negative (that's what the numbers and triangles are from), and then feather the edges...
post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
No, no, I know for a fact this was added, as the picture was taken with a digital camera...

I just think there must be some applications or some kind of filter that adds these borders to your picture.

Also, I ain't scanning, for I am taking the pics on which I want to perform this surgery digitally.

So... anybody?
post #4 of 25
Can't you crop out the photo, save the border with a transparent center, and use it as a mask for other photos? It's probably what the photographer did. Creating something like that by hand is near impossable.
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post #5 of 25
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Might. Yet I think there is some easier way. There must be.

Anybody else?
post #6 of 25
[quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:
<strong>Might. Yet I think there is some easier way. There must be.

Anybody else?</strong><hr></blockquote>

You can buy filters for use in Photoshop that will give you many different edge treatments.
Unless you want to spend the money, it's really not that hard to make an Alpha mask from this one and use it on other photos.
post #7 of 25
post #8 of 25
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[quote]Originally posted by unremarkable:
<strong><a href="http://www.extensis.com/photoframe/25g.html" target="_blank">http://www.extensis.com/photoframe/25g.html</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

That's the thing I wanted. Thank you, you are truly (un)remarkable!
post #9 of 25
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One problem though... do you know how to get it to work with Photoshop 7 (in OS X)?

The software appears to be a little... dated.
post #10 of 25
Stroszek and Ebby are correct. The original derivative of the border was created for the traditional darkroom printing. Quite easy, actually. Whether as 35mm, 6x6 or 6x7 and etc., all you have to do is to file the edges of the negative carrier (holder). That is why you see the triangle and numbers. Nornally, the negative carrier crops the negative edge information out. The triangle are the frame markers and the numbers that follow are the frame numbers for ID. The more rough metal file you use, greater the "etched edge" effect you get. Because it is very pleasing, third party plug-in have been made to mimic the effect.

If you are having problems with the plug-ins due to incompatibility of OS X, then you can easily crop into the image. Since your sample image is all black, along with black bordering before the final etched edge effect, it is easy to marquee actual photo image, then crop, then save your remaining, which is the outer border and save as a layer for all your horrible images so that it looks a little better.

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post #11 of 25
Take your photo......from menu use select. Under that menu choose all. Then in the same menu select to modify/border. Choose like 20 pixel or so to start. It should make a border around your photo. Then choose to clear...make sure your choice of colors is white.

It should be close to what you are looking for. With it still selected you could even blur the edge some if you want.
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post #12 of 25
der kopf: extensis just made a new version.

<a href="http://www.extensis.com/photoframe/" target="_blank">http://www.extensis.com/photoframe/</a>
post #13 of 25
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Why, thank you Defiant. Would you believe I have it already up and running on my comp? The gesture is very sweet, as it the link, because, well, I can click it.
post #14 of 25
Hey der Kopf I already have a photoshop frame of a 5x4" photo surround. I could do a hi-res scan of any format you like. Would you like me to email it to you?

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post #15 of 25
I'll post a link to a stuffit file of the Photoshop image of this. (it's 12.5 meg though do you need it smaller?)
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post #16 of 25
Oops! was a cmyk image have changed to greyscale and is now only 300k approx. Here it is: <a href="http://www.paragraphics.co.uk/~sonny/images/5x4.sit" target="_blank">Image copyright Sonny B aka Crustibooga</a>
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post #17 of 25
[quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:
<strong>Why, thank you Defiant. Would you believe I have it already up and running on my comp? The gesture is very sweet, as it the link, because, well, I can click it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

you're welcome. did someone say carracho ?

[ 12-11-2002: Message edited by: Defiant ]</p>
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
Nobody said carracho [especially not me]. I would say free trial, during the which I have actually found out that the application is not what I want after all. Well, the search continues.
post #19 of 25
alright alright. no pun was intended.

I was just asking. I did not know that there was a free trial... <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />
post #20 of 25
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Hey Defiant, I'm not mad or anything, if anything, I'm thankful for all the help you've been giving me.
post #21 of 25
whew... I think I sometimes just take all that to much to my heart.
post #22 of 25
hey der kopf,
with all the time you've been wasting here and tinkering with so-called "free trials," you could have made an alpha mask already from the existing photo!!!!
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post #23 of 25
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mac's girl, you are right. the thing is though, that I know the person who did the above pic did it in some automised way. my question was at least half posed to find out how to do that if I would want that, for besides a few photos, I don't really have an urgent need for this. A latent need, alright.
post #24 of 25
[quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:
<strong>mac's girl, you are right. the thing is though, that I know the person who did the above pic did it in some automised way. my question was at least half posed to find out how to do that if I would want that, for besides a few photos, I don't really have an urgent need for this. A latent need, alright.</strong><hr></blockquote>

latent need... uh huh. why, if i didnt know you any better, i'd say you were trying to find ways to up your post count!

from an artisitic standpoint, i dont like the way that border looks with that particular baby pic. i can see some good uses for it, but personally i wouldnt want to stick it on every photo.
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post #25 of 25
If you can get a cheap version of the old Photoframe, you can still effectively use it in PS 7. Basically, all it is is a filter that accesses grayscale images and makes them Alpha Channels. You can easily do this manually by expanding the canvas size of your original photograph[dont make the edges transparent, either black or white(unless you want to create a different effect from the one you have shown), whichever you want to be the closest color]. Then place grayscale image as mask of your photo. Next you will want to make a layer underneath that is the filled with black or white(oposite of what you chose earlier).

Sounds a little complex, but it isnt very hard. Alternatively, you could create your own mask by scanning in(or taking a digital photo of) an interesting textured object and making it grayscale and do some additional editing. You can do some really cool effects in this manor.


For this project I used a crumpld up, torn piece of paper that I soaked in water.

<a href="http://www.andrews.edu/~rbecker/assn07/portfolio/di_graphics/di_collage.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.andrews.edu/~rbecker/assn07/portfolio/di_graphics/di_collage.jpg</a>

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