HP taken to task for releasing iMac clone - Page 4

This is not the first time someone tried to copy the iMac. Remember when the Koreans did it blatantly and got sued?

 

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Remember_That_iMac_Copy_Apple_Settles_With_iMac_Clone_Maker_Future_Power_Wi/

 

And eMachines' eOne, whose settlement drove them to be purchased by Gateway (purchased by Acer).

 

Apple needs to come down hard.

 

This is the new "Apple wants to patent rounded rectangles", right?  Is there some kind of secret website that feeds Apple trolls their talking points, so they can all stay on the same page?  And does it have a big banner at the top of the page that says "NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE EXPLAIN HOW STUPID AND WRONG YOU ARE, JUST KEEP SAYING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN"?

 

Because friend?  It's unbelievably tedious.
 

" [...] HP SpectreONE, an All-in-One unlike anything you’ve ever seen."

I'm sure glad I wasn't taking a drink when I read that... I would be cleaning off my screen right now. Wow.

It is not just a question of Look & Feel. For ages, PC fans recognized "ok, a PC is ugly compared to a Mac, but it is open, you can easily plug whatever additional card you want".

They are going to capitulate on this point too ...

It sucks to be Apple!

What I can't stand is how all the anti-American fAndroid geeks bah Apple instead of supporting an American company! These sick bastards pretend Apple is not the leader and the company that everybody tries to rip off!
I also can't stand how these shameless tech companies have given up on innovating and creating their own stuff!!!

The absolute worse part yet is that the ripping-off of Apple technology and designs is so bad that HP is copying how Scamsung copie Apple!!!
Yes I mean the rip-off company has people ripping off their business model!

HP acknowledged scamsungs success by ripping off Apple and three years later only getting a slap on the wrist! So of course HP will rip off Apple seeing as how Scamsung got away with it!

I mean if you are a SHIT company thy produces more SHIT, thn why not rip off Apple is you are guaranteed success knowing that 3 years from now AFTER you have received all the benefits you MIGHT face some consequences!!!!

F You meg bitchmen!!!!

Indeed it is a AiO PC with a wireless keyboard and trackpad. But the PC is built into the stand, not the display housing. It even has some extension ports at the sides where you can reach them.

The keyboard has a similar, but more rounded off design (come on, it is some wedge with buttons on it anyways you turn it). The trackpad mimics the design of its own keyboard (but clearly, Apple opened the path for a stand-alone trackpad).

I think it is different enough from an iMac.

When I chose my iMac, I chose the most cost-efficient way to run OSX. A Mac Mini was too expensive (I did not have a Mac KB or mouse and only a 17" Display). Given the choice, I would always opt for the NOT-all-in-one-computer for exchangeablility of components vs. display. (I guess that's why you hardly see AiO Windows PCs)

Has Apple Really Ever Invented Anything? Anything? Anyone?

 

A friendly reminder:

Integrating things =/= Inventing

Yep!

 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Desktop-Computers/All-in-One-Computers/

 

120 SKUs

It's not that company any more, sad to say ... :-(

 

Over the past three months, I've noticed that the anti-Apple rhetoric has become increasingly desperate.

 

But, I think we've finally found the low point.

 

So you want to ban me because I dared to disagree with you? Or because I dared to say that Apple have been making too many mistakes of late?  Oh how nice. 

 

Given your incredibly confrontational stance on pretty much everything, and how you routinely wind people up to provoke a response it's truly staggering that you were made a mod. Then again, AA has articles written by DED, a fanboy so extreme he would make Gruber blush.

Yeah, they all share the same two or three talking points. And they have the nerve to say Apple fans all suffer from groupthink without bothering to look at themselves in the mirror.

How inspired is too inspired?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I enjoy a public flaying as much as the next person, and majortom1981's post is devoid of perspective, but at least read the entire thread before making the same point as half a dozen previous replies. Good heavens, this is like a reddit thread.

 

 

 

Look at Apple's patent portfolio. It takes actual talent and a helluva lot of attention to detail to, say, develop a method of precision laser cutting hardened aluminum on a massive scale, while retaining profitability. Even when the majority of components are manufactured by other companies, Apple is known for having to invent new methods of treatment and assembly at such tight tolerances. Inventing is more than just making a new product category, like light bulbs.

See Pixar for a comparative study. Do you think they do all that shit in Blender? No, they invent new plugins and programs to roll their own fur, water, and other 3D sims.

 

Nope.

 

Nope.

 

That's nice for you.

Hah, that's what I said. Angle of view. Accessories though...

That sounds like Blender-hate. Blender's great, it even helps preventing tsunami casualties. All hail Blender! :p

Well they say that copying is the highest form of flattery.

 

Imitation ≠ copying.

HP computer monitor from 2009



and 2007



truth be told the only case you guys REALLY have is against the accessories...and even those are more like the Vizio's which was an open inspiration from Apple.

In 36 years of living, I've rarely ever felt capitalism has been anything glorious at all. Starting new products is almost impossible in existing markets. Good products fail in the face of cheap junk, and cheap junk makers mimic popular stuff so closely as to make one cringe at the shamelessness of the act. Professionalism means nothing. Nor does originality. Just look at the state of Hollywood. Perfect analogy for capitalism destroying the "ideals" of capitalism.

Yet Apple seems to succeed at these things seemingly at will. Care to suggest an alternative and proven successful system that does not rely on slavery or close to it?

 

Here come the "Chinese workers" comments.

Ahhh! Where serfdom IS the middle class.

I think you're describing a cultural problem, not a problem of an economic system. There aren't any good economic systems, capitalism is merely the best that we have. We might never have gotten personal computers at all under other economic systems.

You know I read this stuff from you, and it generally contains too much emotion rather than any real observation on what infringes upon what. HP appears to have placed the majority of the actual computer in a different portion. The wide base seems to contain a lot of it as I don't think they crammed it behind a display that thin. Anyway this isn't an area where I have the energy to go looking for related patents and forming comparisons, so I won't interject any real opinions.

 

 

As an analogy, this is pretty bad. You just compared Pixar to an open source application.

Is capitalism successful if it DOES rely on slavery or something close to it?

To those on top life is always great when you purposefully ignore the bigger picture.

And simply because one can point out WHY something is bad doesn't mean that because they can't tell you what's better that the bad thing is now good.

Point out the alternative or go away. Your IFs are just wind.

In other words your logic was faulty.

But I see faulty logic seems to be your thing.

 

 

 

I compared Pixar and Apple, since both are known to invent the tools required to produce their products. Apple could not have assembled the iPhone 4 entirely through existing manufacturing processes, so they developed new ones. Pixar's 3D needs often surpass what public 3D programs are capable of, so they write their own in-house.

 

Full context above, in case anyone else is confused.

oh how sad have you become HP?... you were once the top equipment maker (how i llusted after HP test equipment.. (dvm's, spectrum analyzers) LOL geek i suppose (also tektronix oscilloscopes... a 250k dollar digital 'scope ? mind-blowing!)

but i suppose HP's software business has the honour... but still , come on HP, reign in the PC side!

When I saw the previews for Brave, I actually wondered how much time they spent getting her hair to look like that. Both the shader development and dynamics must have been insane. The part I felt was out of context was the comparison of a film studio to an open source product that survives via donations.

so my examples of how this is NOT HP copying are to be ignored?

I gave up on this long ago. Most of the people on here primarily pay attention to Apple. If they remember something, they remember what Apple did, and that becomes the point of reference. No matter what another company produced in the past, it will be labeled as copying now as these threads are based on anecdotes and lack of research.

 

Might I ask the release date of that 2007 model?

earliest review I can find based on a reverse image search is in April of 2007

note: the side view of this unit is vastly different to either the HP Spectre or the iMac but then again the Spectre and the iMac have differing side views as well.
Edited by AbsoluteDesignz - 9/13/12 at 6:21am

indeed.

What's worse though is other sites are reporting it as a copy as well...if I were HP I'd engage in a rather aggressive PR campaign to do my best to dispel these claims.

That HP "Spectre" (stupid name too!) looks like they tried to copy iMac and then tried to make it ugly, probably thinking no one would notice with windows running on it. 

I notice that with both that one and the Vizio mentioned in this thread, both articles mention that neither one includes touchscreen support. Is this really an issue? Are computer makers really scrambling to bring touchscreens to their desktop computers? Is this something people really want? I don't want to touch my computer screen. I don't even sit close enough to it to touch it. Am I just really that old?