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post #41 of 174
What really bothers me is the Track pad looking thing. What's up with that? The mouse pads on most Windows machines seriously suck, and the gestures were really inconsistent from one device to another. So what is their trackpad going to 'do'? Is it going to use the same gestures as the Magic Trackpad? That thing is truly beyond the pale in copycatdom. How will that thing work? You know how Apple feels about their gestures.
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There aren't any more ideas. Apple already thought up all the ideas. Apple's ideas have been used by everyone for so long they should be made public domain.

 

 

Really?

 

Is that what you call competing?

 

There aren't any more ideas you wrote.

You certainly never had one.

THX. to copy & paste.

I'm sorry. I completely 'misunderestimated' that such a preposterous remark would require a '/s' so there it is.

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post #43 of 174
LOL what else do you expect from a company like HP? They used to be a great company until they decided to get into bed with Micro$hit. Their products are crappy unreliable and uninspiring. They headed the way of the dinosaurs.
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After literally decades of building PC's - and the industry at large - the best that they were able to do with all those years of cranking out PC's was to make them all look just like Apple products. Shameful.

What the heck is so difficult about differentiating oneself from a competitor's product? Is it really that difficult or is it them cutting back their marketing and design departments and letting Apple do the R
post #45 of 174
majortom1981, last time I checked Braun never released computers or portable electronic devices. (cordless Razors don't count).
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Keep in mind that pretty much every single one of Apple's new products/form factors/design decisions is mocked to hell and back when first unveiled 

 

iPhone- LOL NO PHYSICAL KEYBOARD NO PORTS NO REMOVABLE STORAGE NON REMOVABLE BATTERY FAIL!!!

Macbook Air- LOL NOBODY WANTS A LAPTOP THAT THIN WHAT ARE THEY THINKING LOL NO REMOVABLE BATTERY LOL NO TRACKPAD BUTTON

iPad: LOL MASSIVE IPOD TOUCH WITH PHONE OS TABLETS ARE A FAIL SO MUCH WORSE THAN A NETBOOK, NETBOOKS ALL THE WAY

Magic Trackpad: LOL TRACKPADS SUCK WHY PUT THEM WITH A DESKTOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING LIKE A TOY LOL APPLE

 

Etc Etc. I remember well how many each these things, and everything else Apple has made, were bashed when first released. The Macbook Air was seen as a joke by so many. Yet, now it's 'obvious design' of course, and Apple haters fanatically cheerlead competing, identical looking machines, calling it 'obvious' design, and feigning ignorance at the resemblance. LOL DID APPLE PATENT THIN LAPTOPS??! No, you morons, but you mocked the damn thing when the only company who made that form factor was Apple. A virtual touch keyboard was "laughable and pathetic", until everyone else started doing it.  Now, of course, an ultrabook is awesome if its made by Samsung/HP/Asus, non-removable battery and all. Same thing here, where the trolls pretend not to see the resemblance and call it 'obvious' design. I wonder how many of these 'obvious designs' would have seen the light of day if Apple did not exist? Wild guess: 0.  Somehow, obvious design stems from Apple's design EACH and EVERY time. Must be coincidence, or something. Its just the 'natural evolution' of things. 

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It's a sad time for innovation. Oddly enough, one of the more interesting companies right now - aside from Apple, obviously - is Microsoft.
Why are they interesting? Because they are doing their own thing, and that's how the consumer gets real choice. Even if it's a crap choice, it's a genuine alternative.

 

I feel the same way.  They are trying to create rather than steal.  Their efforts are not glorious, but they are workable.  Now, If they had anyone other than Ballmer at the helm they might be able to succeed.

post #48 of 174
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Okay, fine, pick up this story that is on the other Mac sites.

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But at least include the Vizio model that I mentioned in one of the earlier comment sections. You know, the one that does the exact same thing, ignoring all the earlier hoo-hah about "trackpads on a desktop computer" that the Anti-Apple Brigade loves to whine about.

On a different note, where can I get a HalfBook Pro? 


imac

People expect Vizio to make knockoffs. Perhaps they believe h worlds largest PC maker might do better.
post #49 of 174
Originally Posted by winstein2010 View Post
So is HP and all Apple "hater" admitting that Apple was "right" 5 years before everyone else in the industry? How ironic!


Even longer, considering the G5 iMac. Apple has been right for eight years. 


Originally Posted by WisdomSeed View Post
Is it going to use the same gestures as the Magic Trackpad? That thing is truly beyond the pale in copycatdom. How will that thing work? You know how Apple feels about their gestures.

 

And if HP or Vizio are at all infringing, Apple'll give them a gesture, that's for sure.


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People expect Vizio to make knockoffs. Perhaps they believe h worlds largest PC maker might do better.
 

The one that was reportedly considering dropping computers entirely, that is.

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post #50 of 174
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Apple is allowed to copy braun but nobody is allowed to copy apple? That does not make sense.

 

I must have missed the products that Braun have in the computer industry ... I'm sure we'd all like to see their Laptop

 

When Apple produce an Apple Coffee Maker we can then say they may have copied braun

 

I wish they had dislike votes enabled, majortom1981 obviously dislikes Apple

post #51 of 174
"Apple is allowed to copy braun but nobody is allowed to copy apple? That does not make sense."

You might have a point if Braun made computers.
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Apple is allowed to copy braun (sic) but nobody is allowed to copy apple? That does not make sense.

 

Braun made computers??

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post #53 of 174
Don't forget the Envy laptop.

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post #54 of 174
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Dont these people get it?
People want an imac.. Not a imac lookalike pc.
Imac is more than a piece of decoration in the house or office!
Ho discredits itself as a dumb copycat with no ideas!
Plus new imacs are on theur way! So much for coping the old!

That's the problem. People who will spend more $1000 for a vendor-built PC are almost always going to be buy a Mac. This is just their attempt to play follow the leader. Of course, they'll cut corners, which makes sense because they don't have the same dedication to quality or volume to allow them to compete directly, and they'll still have to use Windows so it'll ultimately fail as a product the way the Dell XPS Ones did.

Personally, I don't see any illegal copying here. It's surely inspired by Apple's products but there is nothing about that I see Apple can claim ownership of and enough differences in the design, especially the stand (I wish the iMacs had USB in the stand), to make it unique enough.

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post #55 of 174
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Braun made computers??

Even if Apple did blatant clone an actual Braun product we're not talking about any Braun product that has existed on the market for decades. If HP wants to start making a bondi blue CRT AIO PC I don't see Apple doing anything but laughing.

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post #56 of 174
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So is HP and all Apple "hater" admitting that Apple was "right" 5 years before everyone else in the industry? How ironic!

 

I love how anyone that doesn't instantly agree with Apple's side in all things is instantly labeled a "hater" on this site. I own a 13" and 15" MBP, I've owned every single iPhone since the 3G, every single iPod since the Windows-compatible 1.5G came out, and have been using Apple computers since the II came out way back when, but yeah I'm such a "hater" because I don't look at a similar product from the competition and scream "RAPE!"

 

Yeesh. Fanboys. Steve, save us from your followers.

post #57 of 174
I may have mentioned this before but you can have a Mac or you can have something else. It may look like a Mac, though it's not a Mac.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Personally, I don't see any illegal copying here. It's surely inspired by Apple's products but there is nothing about that I see Apple can claim ownership of and enough differences in the design, especially the stand (I wish the iMacs had USB in the stand), to make it unique enough.

I agree. Reaching around the back to plug in my camera card reader is a pain. That is about the only thing I use USB for on the iMac. That HP also looks like it has a SD card reader in the stand which is pretty cool although I use Compact Flash a lot too.

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post #59 of 174
No surprise from the venom filled headline that this is another piece of fanboy nonsense from DED.

So Apple now owns the copyright on not only rounded rectangles, but angular silver things too? This really is getting pathetic DED.
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If you can't beat them join them. Unfortunately, that club is very expensive from a legal perspective. Looks like HP should have stuck with their initial plan and got out of the PC industry last year.

Perhaps HP is planning on going out in "style" this year... 

 

Or, it was necessary to copy Apple this year, since they canned all their designers last year...

 

HP's sales slogan this year: "Little Dude, You're Getting a HaPple!"

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post #61 of 174

These guys should join Samsung on planet Kamino.

post #62 of 174
Very very sad. Pathetic.
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I don't ever like to say that someone has blatantly and shameless copied Apple's designs. They are strong allegations. But I really can't see how anyone can deny that these are blatant and shameless copies! 


Well, I'd like to have other pictures. These seem a bit too obvious in their targeting. Then again, if it really is a copy, Apple's going to sue HP. Sad thing for the company Steve Jobs worked his summer job in...

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post #64 of 174
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I agree. Reaching around the back to plug in my camera card reader is a pain. That is about the only thing I use USB for on the iMac. That HP also looks like it has a SD card reader in the stand which is pretty cool although I use Compact Flash a lot too.


Well, I'd like Apple to copy _that_ IP...

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post #65 of 174
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It doesn't look much like an iMac. The screen bezel is very different. The pedestal is very different. Even the wireless keyboard isn't much like Apple's. the HP keyboard has silver keys, Apple's keyboard has white keys that are shaped differently. I'm sorry, fanbois, but Apple didn't invent the rectangle.

They didn't invent the rectangle?  You should be an attorney for Samsung.  Their legal defense was very similar to your argument.  But they said it just a little differently so I guess you can't be copying them at all even if similar and close to identical.  You are very very different and unique.

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It's a sad time for innovation. Oddly enough, one of the more interesting companies right now - aside from Apple, obviously - is Microsoft.
Why are they interesting? Because they are doing their own thing, and that's how the consumer gets real choice. Even if it's a crap choice, it's a genuine alternative.

So what good is a crappy choice?
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post #67 of 174

Boy oh boy... you Apple Fanbois are a joke - always thinking Apple invented everything!! The Spectre is nothing like the iMac, the stand and base are clearly about 12 inches wide unlike the iMac 6" wide stand/base and the Spectre keyboard is 2" bigger in diameter... get a life. 

 

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I agree. Reaching around the back to plug in my camera card reader is a pain. That is about the only thing I use USB for on the iMac. That HP also looks like it has a SD card reader in the stand which is pretty cool although I use Compact Flash a lot too.


Well, I'd like Apple to copy _that_ IP...

It probably shouldn't be in the base now that I think about it. Too close to the desk to hold the memory card except by the edges. The MBP is perhaps slightly thicker at the point where the card slot is, but it is also closer to the user and you don't have to reach under the screen such as in the HP design.. I think a card reader on the side of the computer would be nice. I don't mind having USB on the back of the iMac. It would just be nice to have one near the front for quick access like my Mac Pro.

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post #69 of 174

I'll tell you what.  Work your butt off for a month, then I will come collect your paycheck and tell everyone that I did most of the work.

 

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Boy oh boy... you Apple Fanbois are a joke - always thinking Apple invented everything!! The Spectre is nothing like the iMac, the stand and base are clearly about 12 inches wide unlike the iMac 6" wide stand/base and the Spectre keyboard is 2" bigger in diameter... get a life. 

 

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post #70 of 174

It's clearly inspired by Apple but I wouldn't say it's painfully similar. It doesn't have the "chin" and the foot is squared off not rounded. It's also a LOT thinner. And the ports are all in the foot instead of in the machine itself... which is actually kinda cool. And I'm a 20+ year Apple fan.

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don't mind having USB on the back of the iMac. It would just be nice to have one near the front for quick access like my Mac Pro.

This is why I have the Apple USB keyboard and not the Bluetooth one, as it has two handy USB ports, one at each end. (Plus I quite like a numerical keypad)
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Apple is allowed to copy braun but nobody is allowed to copy apple? That does not make sense.

 

Apple sells razors?

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Would you rather have an original painting by Picasso, or would you rather have a cheap Xerox copy of that same painting? Android users need not answer that question.

 

Would you rather be with a naturally beautiful girl, or would you rather be with a fake broad that sort of looks like the natural beauty, but the fake broad comes with fake tits, massive plastic surgery to cover up various defects and too much makeup?

 

Don't answer that if you can honestly stand there with a straight face and seriously claim this HP iMac clone is not a pathetic and cheap rip off of the iMac design. And no, something doesn't have to be 100% identical in order to be a complete rip off. And don't give me any bullcrap about squares and triangles, those kind of people deserve to be smacked upside the head. Apple's designs are so great looking and trend setting, that even Apple haters wish that their junky machines could like Apple machines. That's why Apple is the most copied and influential tech company out there.

post #74 of 174
blah blah blah blah blah..HP....


but Vizio truly showed inspiration without copying...

The Vizio AIO looks NOTHING like the iMac but it is obviously inspired by the iMac...




Vizio looks unique.

Making a good looking computer does not a copycat make.
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post
No surprise from the venom filled headline that this is another piece of fanboy nonsense from DED.
So Apple now owns the copyright on not only rounded rectangles, but angular silver things too? This really is getting pathetic DED.

 

Thanks for providing extra exhibits for my evidence field. That's all I have to say on this matter for now.

 

Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post
but Vizio truly showed inspiration without copying...

 

*snicker*

 

The Vizio AIO looks NOTHING like the iMac but it is obviously inspired by the iMac...

 

*snort*

 

Vizio looks unique.

 

*sputter*, *guffaw*

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post #76 of 174
also the HP isn't as much of a copycat as you think




The accessories definitely are, however.
post #77 of 174
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Thanks for providing extra exhibits for my evidence field. That's all I have to say on this matter for now.


*snicker*


*snort*


*sputter*, *guffaw*

so the Vizio doesn't look unique, you childish moderator?
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don't mind having USB on the back of the iMac. It would just be nice to have one near the front for quick access like my Mac Pro.

This is why I have the Apple USB keyboard and not the Bluetooth one, as it has two handy USB ports, one at each end. (Plus I quite like a numerical keypad)

I have that too but those USBs are not very powerful. I believe I had trouble with them on the Compact Flash reader so I always use the ones on the back. I have a wired Logitech mouse too. I absolutely hate the Apple mouse. I'm ashamed to say I actually destroyed it so I would never be tempted to use it again.

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post #79 of 174
With designs so similar to Apple, it's no wonder Apple's is suing everyone under the sun! Oh, I'm sure other PC makers will claim they have other inspirational sources...
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HP 'invents' the Fapple (aka Fake Apple) in much the same way street vedors sell Rolex replicas.

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