Apple unveils redesigned iPhone 5 with 4-inch display, 4G LTE - Page 4

 

Yea we could all listen to your (uninformed) opinion, or we could listen to what people who actually held the phone say...here I'll start

 

We just got our hands on Apple's latest smartphone following its unveiling in San Francisco, and suffice it to say, it's a beautiful thing. - Engadget

 

iOS.

 

Dominance in customer satisfaction ratings.

 

LIGHTENING and dual band wifi.

 

Maps like Symbian Nokia had before the first Android phone was released.

 

One thing it doesn't have is an entourage of paid shills making ridiculous comments beating up fantasies of what it DOESN'T have, again..

 

...FIVE years of trashy comments like yours is SO mind numbingly BORING  💤💤💤

 

Hey why don't you go get a Galaxy note you can poke it with a stick, watch out you don't walk into poles while talking on that thing and don't poke anyone with your elbow..

 

That bothers me. Why can't they just commission the creation of their own chip that handles everything?

 

Collusion with the US operators?

Here's the crux for me, they are touting better battery life and LTE and thinner...that's all thanks to Qualcomm's radio and R&D - not Apple. Move to Cortex A15 (excellent, but again ARM Holdings R&D, produced by Samsung) Their biggest R&D moves in the last year are the in-cell digitizer and audio/mic changes. That's about all I see. The camera is somewhat Apple, but mostly Sony. There's STILL nothing wrong with this world class device. It just would have been nice to have some ace in the hole/one-more-thing moment. 

 

Also the iPod Nano looks fantastic.

By far the most important feature -- the choice of LTE bands on the different versions of the phone.  Verizon, Sprint and potentially US Cellular customers will be delighted -- all current and future LTE spectrum on these carriers is represented along with a healthy dollop of international coverage, a feature that simply isn't replicated on any Android device at present.  AT&T and potentially T-Mobile customers have been screwed.  Only the lower 700MHz band and AWS LTE spectrum are on the phone and inexplicably the international frequencies are left off entirely, a situation that additionally leaves the iPhone without any hardware advantages over Android on these carriers.  Honestly, it's beyond a slap in the face to the US GSM side; it's bizarre.  It doesn't make any sense.  

 

Apple may as well try their level best to come up with a single version that supports all seven LTE bands in this release.  One sort of wonders why they didn't do it already.  Maybe AT&T has some kind of fiendish contract with them?

Haven't read any of the posts yet...

 

But there were some unresolved (avoided?) issues that they kinda' danced around:

• 802.11ac
• Late October iTunes release
• iOS 6 Developer update

 

Looks as if there needs to be some co-ordination/synchronization with iPads and iMacs to be released.

 

Final Cut Pro X is due for and update.

 

Most compelling new things were iPad Nano and Touch.

 

Edit:  Jumped the gun on iOS 6 Developer update

Edited by Dick Applebaum - 9/12/12 at 3:03pm

IPhone 5? Did not see this coming.

In your own hemisphere perhaps, but in the other hemisphere, it's actually summer that is near. You can ask "hill60" if you don't believe me.... While at it, you can ask him when he flushes his toilet whether the water flow clockwise or counter-clockwise..., and compare it to what you see when you do...

 

 

Not Universal. Only the 1428 model works on AT&T's network. The 1429 model supports CDMA and GSM outside of the US/Canada. Disappointing. Is the problem technical or legal/political/contractual? The bands covered for GSM are different between 1428 and 1429.

 

I was hoping for real universality.

Not sure about credit cards, but several security flaws have been found in Android's implementation.

 

In cell touch displays in phones were previously announced by LG and other Android manufacturers in the last few months. That was not Apple R&D either. There is not a lot of real innovation from Apple here. It's suppliers innovation? Absolutely.

 

as an example, the Galaxy S II (released around eighteen months ago back in February 2011) has LTE and dual-band WiFi (2.4 and 5Ghz) and sports a relatively large screen which is quite usable.  it's about 0.9 mm thicker than the iPhone 5, however.  another example is the HTC EVO 4G LTE, released earlier this year.  it also has LTE and dual-band WiFi, a large screen, and is around 1 mm thicker than the iPhone 5.  and, there are probably several more examples.

 

the iPhone 5 looks pretty good; i may get one soon.

 

My Galaxy Nexus doesn't have LTE.

And here it comes. It never fails. Each phone since the iPhone gets this. Great. You don't like it.  Move on and let everyone else delude themselves.

 

Is this what you'd consider yourself to be?

 

 

 

Uh, right. Mine does.

Keep throwing stones at Ive. Eventually, it might form a castle. But it will probably just form a pile of worthless stones.

Show me a phone doing it. Apple patented their implementation too. The closest thing is AMOLED in/on touch in Android phones, but that's different. So no, it's Apple R&D there.

I have to question those who say this is nothing special and just a small update to the 4 /4s. You have no clue what Apple just pulled off.

There is NOTHING on the market remotely close to the precision and quality of this design. I really don't care what phone you want or don't want and for whatever reason.

But at least have some integrity and acknowledge the insane amount of industrial design and technical mastery that went into creating this device. 

 

You know what he means. It was available with LTE in the US. A year ago (when the Galaxy Nexus was launched) there was no reason to introduce a international Galaxy Nexus with LTE. HSPA+ is faster in most of Europe still.

Yep, that's me a Fandroid.  :lol:  I've been using Apple since the mid 80's and have never even owned any other smartphone since the iPhone came out (still won't). 

 

I also love how saying a wider screen automatically means you want a 5"+ screen.  I don't think a slightly wider screen would have been a bad thing for Apple to do.  That's nowhere near a 5"

It's not a huge security flaw. A huge security flaw is when I use my iPhone to make a payment with my credit card.

nvm

 

Now cameras can capture credit card numbers by using passbook barcodes of unsuspecting people trying to make a purchase at starbucks.

Apple designs a custom chipset BASED on the A15.

It being thinner isn't based on the chip. How about making the screen have the touch sensors built in instead of another layer? You think Apple buys all this off the shelf so to speak?

It isn't a matter of catching up or which platform has the most features or the most users. iPhone fans like iPhones. Apple fans like Apple products. Apple makes hardware and software which seamlessly integrates with one another in an ecosystem of iCloud, iTunes, App Store etc. Most of the regulars on this forum have an iPod, iPhone, iPad, MBP, and an iMac or Mac Pro. I have owned several of each. Who exactly are you trying to reach here with your Android sales pitch? There are very few if any fence straddlers here. Only Apple fans and Android trolls. Why don't you go back to the Android Insider and defend your own platform against the hoards of iFans descending on your forum to discredit Android?

And everyone else has about caught up. All in all though I think it's a very nice phone. I know people expected another game changer and for it to knock the SGS lll out of the water (and it some ways it absolutely does). It will sell phenomenally well. Many people on VZW didn't get the iPhone 4 because the next one was gonna be released soon and then they skipped getting the 4S because it looked like the 4, all those people will now get the iPhone 5.

Can someone 'splain to me what these words mean? I knew of a Canadian hockey guy named "Don Cherry" who I think invented the phrase "Rocket Surgery" when he actually meant "Rocket Science". 

 

No, it IS an A15, not based. You're either compliant or not. For example Qualcomm's Snapdragon is BASED on Cortex however it is different, but OMAP, Apple A, and Exynos ARE Cortex compliant. The only thing custom is the layout. 

Really not worth an upgrade, even the iPhone 4S which was supposed to be a minor upgrade had more wow effect than this. Improved front camera, corrected antenna gate issues, "world phone", Siri (with hardware to support it), digital AV output, and a significant CPU/GPU upgrade without breaking compatibility with absolutely anything designed for the iPhone 4. This offers a CPUGPU upgrade, a bigger screen, and LTE in exchange for going back to requiring separate models for GSM and CDMA while breaking compatibility with everything developed for the previous dock connector (without an adapter) as well as the previous versions of the product. All the new iOS features work on the 4S, too, so those should be ignored.

Because it's probably not that easy to create.

 

Yes I do think Apple buys them off the shelf. In cell touch censors were not developed by apple and other phone manufacturers have announced in the past months that their upcoming phones will have them.

Sorry but you failed, here are the facts:

 

 

 

 

the fact:

 

Any other example?

Cut it out. If this were like many other sites, some of those posts would have been deleted already. And you're lucky you're here, because usually, any disagreement with a mod is reason for immediate ejection.

But it's pretty obvious when people are trolling. If you don't like what I've said, then tough! I can say what I want just as you think they can say what they want.

The iPhone 5 has an A6 Processor.  I am assuming that the A6 processor in the iPhone 5 is a dual core not quad core.  If it was a quad core they would have mentioned it.

Love all the predictable, "dissapointed" posts here. Same each and every time. Apple basically reengineered, rethought, and improved every SINGLE internal aspect of the phone, including all audio/video subsystems, dramatically improved hardware, completely different build materials, better back and front camera, LTE, larger screen, new connectors AND headphones, etc etc..there's nothing they didn't touch or massively improve. But yeah it's a 'meh' and 'minor' update, cause it looks 'generally' the same. You people would have preferred if Apple slapped on a large-ass screen, wrapped it around in shitty plastic, and called it a day- thats INNOVATION, right?

tallest skil: How did you end up @ AppleInsider? Did you win their competition for the biggest flamer? I am tempted to start looking for other Apple website just because of your flaming here, you always have to have the last word and you got to spell out "your truth" all the times.

 

The app store

Not for LCD with IPS.

 

http://www.slashgear.com/lg-optimus-g-official-with-in-cell-touch-28244148/

 

:)