Originally Posted by ombra2105
Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave right now.
If Steve (whom I don't believe believed in a personal afterlife, but not my point if I'm wrong), is looking down on the Apple forums, he's gonna be damn restless in his grave - I see multiple claims of his being tweaked by events on earth daily here. Enough already....
Originally Posted by reddevil
They just stretched the screen adding a bit more vertical space, so now as App developer now I'll have a new resolution to handle. This means an added development/testing cost without a real big advantage in usability (just two more vertical lines of text). They'd better use a bigger screen keeping the same ratio and resolution, but I think they are trapped by their "Retina" marketing bs so I think this was the best compromise they found, what is lame...
Note: all of the main competitors the phone is head to head with are over 300 ppi now - and that's "Retina territory" - and more importantly to many maybe - the rest are true 720 p - which the iPhone is NOT. (Granted at least one is pentile tech, and I haven't seen detailed screen comparisons).
Originally Posted by GadgetCanada
It's a great phone and probably the best built phone on the market. Specs are top notch. The excitement just isn't there like it used to be. I foresee incremental upgrades from here on for all phones. What more can you shove in a phone?
I went to Verizon (several stores) in advance of the release to get plan details and two things were clear:
1. Verizon sales staff are pushing people away from the iPhone. HARD. It's totally obvious. I straight out asked them if they got smaller commissions on iPhone sales and they said (to a person), no, absolutely not - we just like the Android phones better. I did NOT think to ask (at the time) if their managers were pushing them to push Android for reasons of less cost to Verizon though. Not sure I got a straight answer to what I was asking, or especially if I would have to the question I didn't ask, but more's the pity.
Whatever, expect the "hard non-sell" if you go to a Verizon store for your new iPhone....
2. One of the salesmen was an excellent Android demonstrator. I was looking at the Droid 4 (because I still haven't had a great keyboardless experience and I'm a writer) - but he moved me over to the Galaxy IIIS and showed off both Swype and Dictation. And I was impressed.
And I picked up an iPhone 4S - and - even with everything I know about Apple tech, Apple Design, Apple ecosystem, and all the keynotes and J. Ive videos I've followed, and use the T-word on me, still, in that store among its large screen brethren, it looked and felt like an unimpressive thick feeling outdated little brick - whose screen felt as puny in comparison to the bigger screen Androids as my old 2.5" feature phone does to any pre-iPhone 5 iPhone....
I was all set to grab one - and I probably will. I read the Apple press, not Android. And knowing Windows and OS X takes enough of my time. And I understand the ecosystem and the synergies. And appreciate the build quality. And the resale value. And the just works parts. But no, like many here, I'm not excited. And I'm really not sure what I'll do when the moment comes. I might even go Android Phone and iPad Mini to experiment with the two ecosystems... ....and make a real decision next year when I'm due to upgrade (or acquire for the first time) virtually all my digital devices (TV, router, computer, phone, tablet, etc.) after Win 8's been out for a spell and a few more things shake out.....
PS: the quality of the marble in the Barcelona, Spain store that "only Apple would do" will NOT figure into my decision....... ....hype, hype, hooray notwithstanding......
Originally Posted by Captain J
Oh and let's not forget the cost of getting new cables/adapters for the old ones.
BTW, this has nothing to do with how the case looks. I don't need the worlds thinnest smartphone. How about a little thicker and the worlds best battery life. How about a little wider screen. The whole one hand thing is way overblown both in terms of fact and how often it even applies.
Originally Posted by Xian Zhu Xuande
Some people have bigger hands and could comfortably use a little more screen width but there are plenty with smaller hands who could not. Apple would have to introduce additional versions. In any case, I'm pretty sure that people whining for something like a wider screen really just don't get Apple. They're designing a product that is comfortable for everyone (and not everyone wants a huge electronic device glued to the side of their head and bulging in their pocket).
Originally Posted by Pendergast
And what do you, in all your wisdom, think most consumers expected that wasn't provided?
Unless you like gigantic phones that require cargo pants to pocket them, what does an Android phone have that this doesn't? What killer feature hardware wise is this missing that will be released in the next year?
Don't say NFC.
The SIII would fit any shirt pocket I own.... ....and given that there are a range of hand sizes (for those who CHOOSE to use their phones the way the iPhone team designed their ergonomics to be operated, and that Apple has all the capital in the world, I think think they could've solved the whole freaking thing by releasing TWO models - one for "man hands" (or for people who "iDevice two-handed" as I tend to do) - stretched out to where with size and width they just hit their own 300 ppi Retina def - which I'm thinking might have given them a 3:2 with about 4.3" or so inches and the other in the current size factor.
As in c'mon, that's not that far "out of the box"........ ....but Apple's declared "whadda you know"? So meaningless to keep on about I guess.
PS: I'm not lovin' the update on the Apple Logo that much. Anybody else agree or disagree??
Originally Posted by Andysol
So to go from 16gb to 32gb on the iPod Touch it's $50
To do the exact same thing on the new iPhone it's $100
Could have something to do with possible iPad Mini pricing structures... ...which given the Touch prices doesn't seem likely to come in close to what Google and Amazon are charging in that size area....
Originally Posted by Shidell
Rather, what does this have, that an Android phone hasn't for the last year?
Don't say iOS.
All this amazing free press that Apple's garnered. The Wall St. Journal had three pages of articles IN ADVANCE of the release - including the IP5's projected effect on the entire Gross Domestic Product.
Edited by bigpics - 9/14/12 at 7:28am