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Pricing for Apple's new iOS device accessories has been revealed, and the Lightning to 30-pin Adapter will cost $29, a Lightning USB cable is $39, and the new EarPods are sold separately for $29.

The prices can be found in Apple's newly updated online store. The standard Lightning to 30-pin Adapter comes in a compact size and allows many, but not all, 30-pin accessories to work with newer devices like the iPhone 5.

Apple's official product description notes that both video out and iPod out are not supported with the Lightning to 30-pin Adapter.

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If the compact adapter isn't a good fit for your accessories, Apple also offers a 0.2-meter cable that accomplishes the same task for $39. Both adapters are advertised as available to ship in October.

Also available in Apple's online store are the new EarPod headphones. The EarPods come with a remote and mic, like previous Apple headphones, and are priced at $29.

"The Apple EarPods with Remote and Mic are designed to rest comfortably inside ? and stay inside ? a variety of ear types," the product description reads. "The audio quality is so superior, they rival high-end headphones that cost hundreds of dollars more."

The new accessory is listed as compatible with a plethora of Apple's portable devices, including all generations of iPhone, iPod touch and iPad. The oldest compatible advertised device is the third-generation iPod, which debuted before the click-wheel.

Finally, Apple is also offering a Lightning to USB Cable for $19. It is the same USB syncing and charging cable that ships with the new iPhone 5, iPod touch and iPod nano.
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Hmm...debating giving the EarPods a try.  Wonder how long until some reviews are out about them...

post #3 of 34

Total BS. $30 for the adapter is greedy as all get go.

post #4 of 34

Just wait for Samsung to copy it, for $10 (maybe even wait for Samsung to say this was a "natural evolution" of cables - "prior art" if you will, to keep from getting sued).lol.gif

post #5 of 34
The adapter is 50% more than the cable?

Pretty ridiculous.

I will probably pick up an extra cable @ 20 bucks (which isn't too outrageous,) but I don't really see the point of these adapters.
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well, thinking that the old 30-pin was all-analog and this is now all-digital, and the thing is big, there is probably as much cpu power in this adapter as there was in a first-gen ipod. :-)

 

don't think apple tries to make money on this thing, as it's really a stop gap that they need as they had to change the connector design, finally; and looking at all the built-in car connectivity found in many vehicles, they had to find a way for a smooth migration.

 

it's probably a cost-based pricing, honestly.

 

Florian.

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Hmm...debating giving the EarPods a try.  Wonder how long until some reviews are out about them...

I am thinking the same thing. I hope somebody has a review today on them.

post #8 of 34
Is it USB 3?
post #9 of 34
good lord! i guess apple's legendary profit margins extend to their cables and adapters too.

i'll wait for monoprice.
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The adapter is 50% more than the cable?
Pretty ridiculous.
I will probably pick up an extra cable @ 20 bucks (which isn't too outrageous,) but I don't really see the point of these adapters.

 

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Total BS. $30 for the adapter is greedy as all get go.

It's because the adapter has a processor to convert digital signals (from Lightning iOS devices) to analog audio and video.

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Considering many of us have chargers/cables at work, in our cars and at home buying adapters would add $60 to $90 plus tax to the cost of buying an iPhone 5.  Buying just the cables would add $40 to $60 to the cost plus tax. That is not chump change.

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It's because the adapter has a processor to convert digital signals (from Lightning iOS devices) to analog audio and video.

I got that, but considering many of us would have to buy two or three of them that is a lot of money. They might have been generous with the cost or given one with the phone. They are not a poor company.

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It's because the adapter has a processor to convert digital signals (from Lightning iOS devices) to analog audio and video.

 

I think you are correct that the adapter must have a chip inside; maybe similar to a thunderbolt cable.  For that reason, I think you won't see a third party cable any time soon, if ever.  Maybe Apple will come out with a thunderbolt to lightning cable soon?


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Originally Posted by florianvk View Post

well, thinking that the old 30-pin was all-analog and this is now all-digital, and the thing is big, there is probably as much cpu power in this adapter as there was in a first-gen ipod. :-)

 

don't think apple tries to make money on this thing, as it's really a stop gap that they need as they had to change the connector design, finally; and looking at all the built-in car connectivity found in many vehicles, they had to find a way for a smooth migration.

 

it's probably a cost-based pricing, honestly.

 

Florian.

 

Yes, isn't such a quirky coincidence that at-cost pricing ends with a 9!?  I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who recognizes that Apple isn't a for-profit company.  Oh, wait...  honestly!

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple's official product description notes that both video out and iPod out are not supported with the Lightning to 30-pin Adapter.

 

So can it be inferred that the iPhone 5 itself has no method of outputting line-level audio or HDMI video, and the only way to connect an iPhone 5 to a TV would be with the AppleTV box & Airplay streaming?

 

That would be a real step backwards IMO.  I really like being able to hook up my iPhone to TVs (not necessarily my own) for slideshows...

post #16 of 34
deal with it...how else would Apple change the way the iPhone connects without causing a ruckus like this? Charge $10 for the adapter/cable? Just wait. I guarantee by the time the phone is officially released some Chinese knock off will be on eBay for $5
post #17 of 34

Why does the article's summary text incorrectly state the Lightning USB cable is $39, then correct itself further down the article to say the Lightning to USB cable is $19? Thanks for making all the complicated accessories and their pricing more complicated....

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post #18 of 34
Well, I called it. No AV output at the moment (neither through the adapter nor through new accessories), and the new iPods are already out... Like I mentioned in another thread, this iPhone is a downgrade in terms of connectivity.

Thumbs up for the EarPods though, I'm ordering some right now.
post #19 of 34
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Considering many of us have chargers/cables at work, in our cars and at home buying adapters would add $60 to $90 plus tax to the cost of buying an iPhone 5.  Buying just the cables would add $40 to $60 to the cost plus tax. That is not chump change.

 

Don't go out to dinner this week?  I mean, since when is going out less than $150 round-trip?  Or, if going out is $30 for you, just trade that in for an adapter that week.  Now, I do wish Apple wouldn't need to shake us down for every nickel, but that little no-fuss connector puts me on the net positive.  I'm getting an iPhone 5 pronto on Friday.

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Originally Posted by Captain J View Post

Considering many of us have chargers/cables at work, in our cars and at home buying adapters would add $60 to $90 plus tax to the cost of buying an iPhone 5.  Buying just the cables would add $40 to $60 to the cost plus tax. That is not chump change.

Im not picking on you. Just on this statement because many people are feeling the way you do.

 

The thing is. It costs money to convert from legacy hardware to the cutting edge stuff.

 

Would it be cheaper and easier for everyone if Apple stuck with the 30pin? OFCOURSE!!!!

 

But Apple is not in this field to stick with the status quo. Innovation. It comes at a price.

 

As stated, this converter is not just a few wires that turns 30 pins into 9. It's a digital to analog converter.

 

Out with the old, in with the new.

 

If you can't swing the price tag, perhaps the latest tech is not for you. . . . . .

post #21 of 34
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It's because the adapter has a processor to convert digital signals (from Lightning iOS devices) to analog audio and video.

 

Which costs Apple about $.17 when purchased in bulk, like they do.

post #22 of 34

I wish that the adaptor was shorter. The length is going to cause problems with a lot of docks.

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If the compact adapter isn't a good fit for your accessories

Someone's going to have to point out this compact adaptor because the one I'm looking at is anything but. I can understand why the TB plug is so large as it has a micro-chip in it but this one seems unreasonably large and 'Lightning' is an odd name for it. I get that it goes with Thunderbolt (Thunderbolt and Lightning) but it's not clear why it's designed the way it is.
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Originally Posted by florianvk View Post

well, thinking that the old 30-pin was all-analog and this is now all-digital, and the thing is big, there is probably as much cpu power in this adapter as there was in a first-gen ipod. :-)

 

don't think apple tries to make money on this thing, as it's really a stop gap that they need as they had to change the connector design, finally; and looking at all the built-in car connectivity found in many vehicles, they had to find a way for a smooth migration.

 

it's probably a cost-based pricing, honestly.

 

Florian.

Are you kidding me?    Monoprice and others are able to make all kinds of adapters that are well designed for as little as $3.   They make a 30pin to USB that looks to me as every bit as good as Apple's version for $3.50.   It's white, it has the same curves, the same gauge wire and it has the same strain relief bits.   IMO, this is a ripoff.    Apple can get away with it because they haven't licensed anyone to make such an adapter and they've probably patented every little thing about it rather than attempting to make it a standard.       I wouldn't be surprised if this thing has a $27 gross margin.   To me this is like when auto dealers try to charge you $350 for floor mats or $2000 for a $200 radio.   

 

How can the adapter cost as much to make as the EarPods?    $29 for the Ear Pods is probably a pretty good deal.   

 

Instead of ripping people off, they should be kissing the butt of people who are stupidly willing to upgrade their phones every year and letting anyone who upgrades buy 2-3 adapters at a low price.    If people upgraded their phones at, let's say a four or five year cycle, Apple would not be the powerhouse that it is and the stock price would be at least 30% lower.   I thought the adapter was going to come in at about $12, which I still would have considered a bit of a ripoff.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised because all Apple cables are ripoffs - it's like buying cables from Monster Cable or one of the "esoteric" audio cable manufacturers.  

 

Whatever happened to the EU imperative to make all phone power supplies interchangeable?    Apple was supposedly a supporter of that initiative.    

 

The only thing in Apple's favor on this is that with iCloud, the cables are less necessary for synching.   But for charging, I like to keep one cable at home, one in the car and one in my bag for use in the office.    Especially since if you actually use the iPhone as a phone, it's not going to last the whole day.   

post #25 of 34
Just go Lightning whole hog. No need for adapters. Sell off all those incompatible accessories.

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Originally Posted by igriv View Post
Thundberbolt does 10GB/s. I am guessing this is a little slower, so this is a ripoff, pure and simple.

 

Mind explaining how, because what you've said is nonsense.

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Thundberbolt does 10GB/s. I am guessing this is a little slower, so this is a ripoff, pure and simple.
 

No.
post #28 of 34

Lightning is, as far as we can tell, USB 2. It's Apple's prerogative to make cables use whatever technology they choose. If it's more expensive for third parties to make their own, too bad. It's a reversible port with eight pins jamming in a great deal of functionality. It's going to cost a little more, I imagine. 

post #29 of 34
I bought a pair of EarPods. Not sure why since I have Apple's more expensive in-ear headphones. I'll report back my findings.
post #30 of 34

I'll get my lighting cables the same way I got most of my 30pin cables.  Buying iPods, iPads and iPhones.  

 

It'll be a little annoying this year not to have spare cables.

 

By 2015 I'll have more than I know what to do with.

post #31 of 34
Originally Posted by igriv View Post
I will probably buy several of these adaptors, but I will not be happy doing it, since I know when I am being ripped off.

 

Then there's absolutely no point in your complaining about it, because you're not doing anything meaningful to protest it or get the prices changed at all. Vote with your wallet! They're three times more than I thought they'd be, too… But it's probably the hardware doing active switching like Thunderbolt cables.


By the way, there is a view that these are USB 3.0. If so, these are much faster and there is some excuse.

 

The view is wrong. The cables specifically say USB 2. That doesn't preclude future parts being Thunderbolt or USB 3, certainly not. Indeed, they're making Lightning to HDMI and VGA (SCREW YOU VGA. DIE IN A FIRE) adapters in the coming months. But no accessory now moves faster than USB 2.

post #32 of 34

Here's a little perspective about Lightning. Pass it on to any trolls you see.

 

 

And since Huddler refuses to show a simple image at full size, click for larger.

post #33 of 34
I guess people all forget how expensive th 30 pin connectors were when Apple first released them, and how people were caterwauling that Apple was trying to gouge with another proprietary connector.

Startup tooling is expensive and high prices are to be expected when a new connector is released. However, with the huge rollout, i have no doubt some intrepid Asian company will tool up and start cranking out 3rd party cables in short order.

Personally, I am willing to put up with some short term inconvenience to move ahead to a more modern connector that is smaller, reversible, detachable (so my expensive electronic device doesn'tt get launched when someone trips over an AC cable, and ha (expected) extensibility.
post #34 of 34

With those generic products, you get what you pay for. A low quality knock off that does what the Apple product does for a short while, until you get fed up and spend the money you should have at Apple to begin with. They're all garbage.

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