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While Apple hasn't revealed much technical detail of the specifications behind iPhone 5 and its components, its new A6 processor is reportedly using next generation ARM Cortex A15 cores, making it the first to market with the technology.

According to a report by Anand Lal Shimpi of Anandtech, the performance gains Apple reported for the new A6 chip and other factors means that "it looks like Apple has integrated two ARM Cortex A15 cores on Samsung's 32nm LP HK+MG process."

The site added, "This is a huge deal because it means Apple beat both TI and Samsung on bringing A15s to market."

Previous generations of the Apple-designed chips used in iOS devices used ARM Cortex-A8 (the iPad / iPhone 4 A4) and Cortex-A9 (iPad 2 / iPhone 4S A5) processor cores. The Cortex-A15 is the next major jump for the ARM architecture, which calls the core "the highest-performance licensable processor the industry has ever seen."



Apple's A-chips

It would not be unusual for Apple to leapfrog the industry in commissioning an advanced new processor. In 2010 it debuted the then-new iPad with its A4, which used "FastCore" technology Apple acquired via Intrinsity to deliver a faster clocked implementation of ARM's standard Cortex-A8 core.

"We have a chip called A4," Jobs announced when showing the new iPad. "which is our most advanced chip we've ever done that powers the iPad. It's got the processor, the graphics, the I/O, the memory controller -- everything in this one chip, and it screams."

The next year, Apple released iPad 2 with the new dual core A5, and Steve Jobs referred to it as the "first dual core tablet to ship in volume," a claim ridiculed by bloggers even thought it remained the only tablet to ship in any meaningful volumes throughout the rest of the year.



RIM attempted to make "dual core" features a key aspect of its PlayBook tablet strategy, which was built upon a Texas Instruments OMAP 4 chip. Motorola also focused attention on its dual core Nvidia Tegra 2 chip powering the Android 3.0 Honeycomb Xoom tablet and its Atrix smartphone.

By the end of last year, the tablet wars ended with Apple's iPad 2 unscathed. Rather than delivering an entirely new processor core for its next iPad, Apple gave it the A5X, a variant of the A5 equipped with quad core graphics and twice the RAM to power its new Retina Display with four times the pixels. The A5X chip continued to use the same 45nm manufacturing process as earlier A4 and A5 chips.

Apple custom Ax chips are fabricated by Samsung, which has historically produced a similar version of its own, albeit typically using different graphics cores and other variations. Samsung's Exynos 5 Dual pairs two ARM Cortex A15 cores with two ARM Mali GPU cores, while Apple's A6 likely uses the same quad core SGX543MP4 GPUs as the new iPad's A5X.



If the new A6 uses Samsung's more advanced 32nm process, it would explain how the much faster chip retains an 8 hour battery lifespan while packing on faster processors and LTE support, as well as how it could possibly be 22 percent smaller than the A5 as Apple said during the keynote.

In addition to Samsung's Exynos 5, TI's OMAP 5 series and Nvidia's Tegra 4 also use ARM Cortex-A15 cores. Broadcom and LG have also announced plans to license ARM's Cortex A15 cores. Qualcomm's S4 Snapdragon also implements a "Krait" architecture similar to the Cortex-A15.
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Shhh... don't say anything about Apple being ahead of the Android players. The Fandroids infesting this forum still believe the iP5 to be nothing more than a "spec bump".
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My God man.  Finally its a dual core.  I was wondering if this was a quad core or dual core.  Being that Apple never mentioned it being a quad core I assumed it was a dual core.  Yet there will be some here who will insult me and say I am lame or something for not catching the information of the A6 processor.  ANd what do I have to say to them.  Well go suck a lemon.

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This is all speculation for now, there is no proof until someone like iFixit disassembles and X-ray scans it.

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@Tylerk36, it may be dual core, but the architecture is superior. It's sort of like comparing a Core 2 Quad with a dual-core Ivy Bridge.
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This is all speculation for now, there is no proof until someone like iFixit disassembles and X-ray scans it.

 

There's not a photo of the transistors, but that's why the article supports it with other evidence and a very credible source

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Samsung has the exact chip listed on its website. I wouldnt exactly call it beating samsung since samsung did make it. They just gave them priority over its own phones.
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I wouldn't say its the exact chip, it may have dual A15's on it but Apple owns the IP for the power saving etc from Intrincity. If Samsung make the exact chip that they OEM for Apple, that would be a big lawsuit.
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The dual core / quad core argument means nothing. What resonates are things like better battery life, improved graphics performance, lighter, 8 hr LTE browsing etc...
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Priority ??? They didn't design it into their GS3 architecture. Apple started the work with the A15 prototypes last year. Samsung wont be bringing an A15 to market until 2013.
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The dual core / quad core argument means nothing. What resonates are things like better battery life, improved graphics performance, lighter, 8 hr LTE browsing etc...

Tell that to the swarm of android users..like a bunch o annoying flies..

Oh 8mp? That's so 2010, oh 4 inch screens? So last year, we had LTE years ago, blah blah blah...Apple is just copying android in features now...

Lol geez my Facebook feed is just blowin up with that crap.
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Tell that to the swarm of android users..like a bunch o annoying flies..
Oh 8mp? That's so 2010, oh 4 inch screens? So last year, we had LTE years ago, blah blah blah...Apple is just copying android in features now...
Lol geez my Facebook feed is just blowin up with that crap.

 

Include NFC, induction charging, etc... things that apparently the freetards believe is a "must have" but in reality no one uses.  Fandroids keep slinging the same tired old cr4p in the hopes something sticks to the wall.

And now add to that the dual-core/quad-core argument.  They will just continue making themselves look that much more stupid thinking that's even important anymore.  Case in point - An iPhone with technically "old" single/dual-core CPU's still perform better in everyday usability tasks than a modern quad-core Android phone.  Try doing simple scrolling on an Android phone without it sputtering.  Shameful.  They even deny the performance problems in light of Android's project "Butter" which supposedly address that very problem that fandroids harped was never a problem to begin with!  How's that for them sucking down their own brand of Kool-aid?!

 

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Tell that to the swarm of android users..like a bunch o annoying flies..
Oh 8mp? That's so 2010, oh 4 inch screens? So last year, we had LTE years ago, blah blah blah...Apple is just copying android in features now...
Lol geez my Facebook feed is just blowin up with that crap.

I hear ya man... People are funny. I always hear that Apple is falling behind the competition due to the omission of certain specs. Apple has the deepest pockets in the industry. If anyone can deliver a 4.8" screen or a quad core processor for the sake of it, it's Apple. Yet, Apple chooses to blaze new trails... And they do it with confidence. I love it.
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While Apple hasn't revealed much technical detail of the specifications behind iPhone 5 and its components, its new A6 processor is reportedly using next generation ARM Cortex A15 cores, making it the first to market with the technology.


According to a report by Anand Lal Shimpi of Anandtech, the performance gains Apple reported for the new A6 chip and other factors means that "it looks like Apple has integrated two ARM Cortex A15 cores on Samsung's 32nm LP HK+MG process."...

 

... Samsung's Exynos 5 Dual pairs two ARM Cortex A15 cores with two ARM Mali GPU cores, while Apple's A6 likely uses the same quad core SGX543MP4 GPUs as the new iPad's A5X...

 

... Samsung's Exynos 5, TI's OMAP 5 series and Nvidia's Tegra 4 also use ARM Cortex-A15 cores. Broadcom and LG have also announced plans to license ARM's Cortex A15 cores. Qualcomm's S4 Snapdragon also implements a "Krait" architecture similar to the Cortex-A15.

If it's true Apple is using Cortex A15 cores, how are they first when Samsung, TI, and Nvidia are all using them too? This article contradicts itself...

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Samsung has the exact chip listed on its website. I wouldnt exactly call it beating samsung since samsung did make it. They just gave them priority over its own phones.

I get so tired of this being regurgitated.  The A series of chips are not samsungs and no samsung does not have this exact chip on there website if they did they would be sued and loose.

The only thing in common with samsungs Exynos 5 chips are that they both start with the arm cores.  Other than that the a4, a5 and a6 have not one thing in common with samsungs Exynos 5.  Apple uses different graphics engine Imagination Technologies PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU. Samsung uses two ARM Mali GPU cores licensed to them from arm.  The A6 is the first to use the arm cortex a15 cores in a smart phone and there inherently faster than the cortex a9 in the a5.  Both samsung and apple license the rights to use the arm cores from arm.  The both then build and add custom parts to there chips to make them unique.  Arm is a company that licenses there tech to people like apple and samsung. Imagination Technologies does the same as well.

 

The only thing samsung does with the A4, A5, and A6 is manufacture them they have nothing to do with there design nor do they own any part of Apple A series chips design.  Apple owns them period.

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If it's true Apple is using Cortex A15 cores, how are they first when Samsung, TI, and Nvidia are all using them too? This article contradicts itself...

They are the first to implement them in a smart phone.  I believe that is what the article said.

 

Edit:  Just did some checking the Galaxy S III from samsung uses cortex a9 cores.  Samsungs next processor the Exynos 5 will use the Cortex a15s from arm.

so the article is correct apple is the first to implement the faster cortex a15 cores in there new iphone 5.


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@Tylerk36, it may be dual core, but the architecture is superior. It's sort of like comparing a Core 2 Quad with a dual-core Ivy Bridge.

Ok but still I was wondering about how many cores because originally about a year back I heard the A6 was a quad core based CPU.  So when I heard that the A6 was in this phone i assumed the # of cores was 4.  I was hoping the # of cores was 4 because samsung released their phone with a quad core processor.  But thank you for setting things straight.

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Include NFC, induction charging, etc... things that apparently the freetards believe is a "must have" but in reality no one uses.  Fandroids keep slinging the same tired old cr4p in the hopes something sticks to the wall.

And now add to that the dual-core/quad-core argument.  They will just continue making themselves look that much more stupid thinking that's even important anymore.  Case in point - An iPhone with technically "old" single/dual-core CPU's still perform better in everyday usability tasks than a modern quad-core Android phone.  Try doing simple scrolling on an Android phone without it sputtering.  Shameful.  They even deny the performance problems in light of Android's project "Butter" which supposedly address that very problem that fandroids harped was never a problem to begin with!  How's that for them sucking down their own brand of Kool-aid?!

 

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If it's true Apple is using Cortex A15 cores, how are they first when Samsung, TI, and Nvidia are all using them too? This article contradicts itself...

 

They're sampling or still in design. That's not the same as shipping in a production device.

 

One reason Apple can ship first is that is a new, expensive part and Apple can afford to put it in a device that is guaranteed to sell, and reuse less functional parts as Apple TV/iPod chips. Samsung, for example, does't have a flagship phone that sells in the same quantities, and doesn't have an equivalent to the iPod touch or Apple TV. It doesn't even use the same chips across its smartphone lines. Of course, it doesn't even use the same OS across its smartphone lines. 

 

Nvidia and TI are also suppling a bunch of products that either sell in the 100k volumes (like the Xoom and PlayBook) or have to be really cheap Nexus 7. 

 

So Apple has the luxury of selling known large volumes of relatively expensive devices. 

 

When you don't understand something, don't assume the article is wrong and that everyone else in the world is stupid. 

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They are the first to implement them in a smart phone.  I believe that is what the article said.

Actually, no, the article doesn't plainly state that. The article says Apple is first to market with the ARM Cortex A15 cores. If it meant first smartphone to market, they should've said that. Also, the article muddies the waters by highlighting what the iPad SoCs are as well, so the article doesn't strictly stick to smartphone CPUs.

 

Also, while hoping the use of newer tech is true, the article points to no evidence of Apple actually using the newer core architecture. It just points to an article by Anantech which is only speculating because of what Apple vaguely said about performance vs previous A5 chips.

 

If this turns out not to be true, it'll be more dung in the face from non-Apple users that have a need to feel superior.

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They're sampling or still in design. That's not the same as shipping in a production device.

 

One reason Apple can ship first is that is a new, expensive part and Apple can afford to put it in a device that is guaranteed to sell, and reuse less functional parts as Apple TV/iPod chips. Samsung, for example, does't have a flagship phone that sells in the same quantities, and doesn't have an equivalent to the iPod touch or Apple TV. It doesn't even use the same chips across its smartphone lines. Of course, it doesn't even use the same OS across its smartphone lines. 

 

Nvidia and TI are also suppling a bunch of products that either sell in the 100k volumes (like the Xoom and PlayBook) or have to be really cheap Nexus 7. 

 

So Apple has the luxury of selling known large volumes of relatively expensive devices. 

 

When you don't understand something, don't assume the article is wrong and that everyone else in the world is stupid. 

After searching the other chips mentioned in the article being made by other companies, it seems you are right that they are still in the sampling/design process to put out those chips. But why didn't the article STATE that! Why did I have to search somewhere else because the article was vague and seemed contradictory?

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Ok but still I was wondering about how many cores because originally about a year back I heard the A6 was a quad core based CPU.  So when I heard that the A6 was in this phone i assumed the # of cores was 4.  I was hoping the # of cores was 4 because samsung released their phone with a quad core processor.  But thank you for setting things straight.

As i said above samsung is using cortex a9 cores 4 of them from arm.  The a9s are slower.  The new iphone 5 uses 2 cortex a15's which are as fast as the 4 a9's.  So like KPOM said its like comparing two core 2 duos to 2 core i7s.   The duos are single threaded,  less on chip cache, and single gate transistors.   The new core i7's (ivy bridge) are dual threaded cores (can handle 2 threads at a time and act like two processors) have more cache, are smaller die size, and use the new trigate transistors.

 

Long story short the a9's in samsungs current flagship phone the Galaxy SIII use older cortex a9 cores that are slower, and the new iPhone 5 uses the latest cortex a15 chips from arm which are faster by design.  Samsung is working on there own cortex a15 chip for there Galaxy s III  (the Exynos 5) and will no doubt upgrade there Galaxy SIII soon to those new faster cores. 

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Am I missing something or is the Qualcomm S4 with the Krait core also an A15 based chip and already shipping in the Evo one x? The S4 has been shipping since June of this year. I think AI needs to check its facts.
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Even then the qualcomm s4 came out first because even though its not listed as an a15 it is basically an customized a15 to better fit the need like lte intergration for better battery and asynchronous cores for better battery life also which is because of deal with arm to be able to completely customize the architecture of the chip to fit their needs. and all the other companies are around the corner from releasing their new chips which will easily beat the a6

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Actually, no, the article doesn't plainly state that. The article says Apple is first to market with the ARM Cortex A15 cores. If it meant first smartphone to market, they should've said that. Also, the article muddies the waters by highlighting what the iPad SoCs are as well, so the article doesn't strictly stick to smartphone CPUs.

 

Also, while hoping the use of newer tech is true, the article points to no evidence of Apple actually using the newer core architecture. It just points to an article by Anantech which is only speculating because of what Apple vaguely said about performance vs previous A5 chips.

 

If this turns out not to be true, it'll be more dung in the face from non-Apple users that have a need to feel superior.

I agree at this point it is pure speculation time will tell, one of the chip slicer companies will peel the top of an a6 and then we will know for sure untill then like you said it is speculation and click bate

 

But I would be very suprised if apple was not using the cortex a15 cores because the a5 in the iPhone 4s is using the cortex a9's and the iPhone 5 is 1.7 to 2.1 times faster than the 4S

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Ok but still I was wondering about how many cores because originally about a year back I heard the A6 was a quad core based CPU.  So when I heard that the A6 was in this phone i assumed the # of cores was 4.  I was hoping the # of cores was 4 because samsung released their phone with a quad core processor.  But thank you for setting things straight.

It isn't that simple. ARM A9 & A15 cores can be implement Into chips in varying numbers. For all we know this could be a quad core A9 implementation with a higher clock rate.

Frankly I think people are jumping to conclusions here, Apples A6 may or may not contain ARMs A15 cores. At 32/28 nm they could easily get 2X the performance out of A9 cores. It will be very interesting to see the tear downs.

Frankly this chip is a waste in iPhone, I can't wait to see an updated iPad with this processor as a base.
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Even then the qualcomm s4 came out first because even though its not listed as an a15 it is basically an customized a15 to better fit the need like lte intergration for better battery and asynchronous cores for better battery life also which is because of deal with arm to be able to completely customize the architecture of the chip to fit their needs. and all the other companies are around the corner from releasing their new chips which will easily beat the a6

Chips released in the future will beat chips that are currently being produced. Wow!

 

Thanks for fulfilling my prophecy.

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Even then the qualcomm s4 came out first because even though its not listed as an a15 it is basically an customized a15 to better fit the need like lte intergration for better battery and asynchronous cores for better battery life also which is because of deal with arm to be able to completely customize the architecture of the chip to fit their needs. and all the other companies are around the corner from releasing their new chips which will easily beat the a6

Just checked on qualcomms sight the s4's currently use quad cortex a7 cores.

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It isn't that simple. ARM A9 & A15 cores can be implement Into chips in varying numbers. For all we know this could be a quad core A9 implementation with a higher clock rate.
Frankly I think people are jumping to conclusions here, Apples A6 may or may not contain ARMs A15 cores. At 32/28 nm they could easily get 2X the performance out of A9 cores. It will be very interesting to see the tear downs.
Frankly this chip is a waste in iPhone, I can't wait to see an updated iPad with this processor as a base.

 

 

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Chips released in the future will beat chips that are currently being produced. Wow!

 

Thanks for fulfilling my prophecy.

agreed one of the chip shavers will pull the top off the A6 and then we will know for sure.  Apple sure has not said whats in it.  But really what does all this matter anyway if the processor is twice as fast  and meets the needs of the phone for apple and customers, does it really matter what clock speed it is and how many cores it has and which cores it has?  Not really lol.

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Ummm no.... check the evo lte. Its a dual core with a a15 based chip. Qualcomm took a A15 nd put LTE into the chip and ripped out some of the un-needed stuff. Its a custom A15 chip which is what the A6 will likely be. And yes I purchased an EVO lte in June of this year. Google "qualcomm Krait review".

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I get so tired of this being regurgitated.  The A series of chips are not samsungs and no samsung does not have this exact chip on there website if they did they would be sued and loose.

The only thing in common with samsungs Exynos 5 chips are that they both start with the arm cores.  Other than that the a4, a5 and a6 have not one thing in common with samsungs Exynos 5.  Apple uses different graphics engine Imagination Technologies PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU. Samsung uses two ARM Mali GPU cores licensed to them from arm.  The A6 is the first to use the arm cortex a15 cores in a smart phone and there inherently faster than the cortex a9 in the a5.  Both samsung and apple license the rights to use the arm cores from arm.  The both then build and add custom parts to there chips to make them unique.  Arm is a company that licenses there tech to people like apple and samsung. Imagination Technologies does the same as well.

 

The only thing samsung does with the A4, A5, and A6 is manufacture them they have nothing to do with there design nor do they own any part of Apple A series chips design.  Apple owns them period.

 

The person speaks like the rest of the Android base--dull and dimly lit. At any rate, I'm interested not only with the memory controller changes now patented, but the ImgTec GPGPU and if it's the latest which would be a big bump.

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Just checked on qualcomms sight the s4's currently use quad cortex a7 cores.

LOLOLOL.... even the s3 was a9 based. Learn how to use google.

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Chips released in the future will beat chips that are currently being produced. Wow!

Thanks for fulfilling my prophecy.

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Samsung has the exact chip listed on its website. I wouldnt exactly call it beating samsung since samsung did make it. They just gave them priority over its own phones.

Samsung has announced a lot of things. which shipping phones have A15?
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Ummm no.... check the evo lte. Its a dual core with a a15 based chip. Qualcomm took a A15 nd put LTE into the chip and ripped out some of the un-needed stuff. Its a custom A15 chip which is what the A6 will likely be. And yes I purchased an EVO lte in June of this year. Google "qualcomm Krait review".

According to this site, the Evo LTE is a snapdragon (A8) chip. Do you have any evidence that it's A15?
http://drippler.com/htc/evo_4g_lte#!378467


I don't know for sure that the iPhone will be the first A15 phone (if it is, indeed an A15, at all). However, it is clear that it's not mainstream yet - so if it is A15, then it's one of the leaders, at least. So much for the "there's nothing in this phone that hasn't been standard in Android for years" argument.
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i know you you like to be like apple and leave out important details to mislead people but the ARMv7 you saw was for the instruction set which all chips have been using for the past 3 years which is why they are coming out with the ARMv8 instruction set soon

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the a6 cant be a custom chip because qualcomm is the only manufacturers to have true customization of the architecture not just adding on like samsung and all the other companies do that is why the snapdragon chip is preferred for the lte devices this year

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Ummm no.... check the evo lte. Its a dual core with a a15 based chip. Qualcomm took a A15 nd put LTE into the chip and ripped out some of the un-needed stuff. Its a custom A15 chip which is what the A6 will likely be. And yes I purchased an EVO lte in June of this year. Google "qualcomm Krait review".

Qaulcomm doesn't make custom ARM Cortex A-anything chips because they don't license the core architecture from ARM, they only license the instruction set. They design their own core architecture, therefore, they aren't A9 or A15 based chips. That's not to dog them, some say that their S4 chips may be technologically more advanced than A15 cores. But it's kind of hard to judge at this point. Might be better to say they are running near parallel in performance.

 

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LOLOLOL.... even the s3 was a9 based. Learn how to use google.

 

They confused instruction set with core architecture. The Qualcomm S4 uses ARMv7 instruction set. Qualcomm doesn't use any specific ARM core architecture from my understanding, as they don't license core architecture from ARM.

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Even then the qualcomm s4 came out first because even though its not listed as an a15 it is basically an customized a15 to better fit the need like lte intergration for better battery and asynchronous cores for better battery life also which is because of deal with arm to be able to completely customize the architecture of the chip to fit their needs. and all the other companies are around the corner from releasing their new chips which will easily beat the a6

It's not listed as an A15-based chip because the S4 isn't an A-anything based chip. Qualcomm designs its own core architecture. It only licenses the ARMv7 instruction set.

 

So if iPhone 5 is indeed using A15-based A6 chips, maybe they would be the first smartphone to use A15-based core architecture. This is regardless of the fact that parallel core architecture designs have been on the month for a few months obviously.

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... Apple(s) ... new A6 processor is reportedly using next generation ARM Cortex A15 cores, making it the first to market with the technology. ... "it looks like Apple has integrated two ARM Cortex A15 cores on Samsung's 32nm LP HK+MG process ... a huge deal because it means Apple beat both TI and Samsung on bringing A15s to market."

 

 

...Samsung's Exynos 5 Dual pairs two ARM Cortex A15 cores with two ARM Mali GPU cores ... TI's OMAP 5 series and Nvidia's Tegra 4 also use ARM Cortex-A15 cores. ...

 

These statements are mutually (f*cking) exclusive of each other!!!!!

 

I'm thinking this is just yet another case of extremely crappy writing from Apple Insider, and not actually a hole in the universe or a logical conundrum etc., but hey, who knows?  Certainly no one reading the shite you guys print and call "journalism."  Seriously, most of the commenters here are better and more careful writers than the Apple Insider staff.  

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Originally Posted by daironhorse View Post

the a6 cant be a custom chip because qualcomm is the only manufacturers to have true customization of the architecture not just adding on like samsung and all the other companies do that is why the snapdragon chip is preferred for the lte devices this year

Lol, if you add something to a chip that no one else does, that kind of makes it custom. Qualcomm is only unique in that it doesn't license the CORE architecture so they HAVE to design their own cores, therefore custom cores, therefore not an A9 or A15 core based chip. You make it sound like Qualcomm has some sort of privilege that no one else does, but really it's just they want to design their own cores and no one else does right now. Any other company, Apple included, could start doing the same thing right now.

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