Apple's iPhone 5 praised as 'a Rolex among a sea of Timexes' - Page 3

Ha!  That's a great analogy.

 

Even if you do go and buy a ring of the same quality from somewhere else, I can say from experience, the reaction you get when you hand over the blue Tiffanys bag is worth the extra money!

Even phones that seem well built can wear over time

 

My Droid X seemed like it was pretty well built initially. The case and battery cover were some sort of alloy.  It was very durable overall.  I am not going pretend it wasn't.  But after 2 years my battery cover wouldn't stay on.  The phone and the outside of the battery cover were both solid and remained in great shape, but the latches on the battery cover were the weakest link.  They simply wore down.  I had to pull the battery cover regularly to access the micro SD card and to reboot the device when it froze.  There was probably another way but pulling the battery was easy.  I did that for years not knowing I was causing damage to the phone BECAUSE IT WAS CONVENIENT.  The design allowed me to do something that ultimately ruined my phone.

 

Had there been no battery cover, it would have annoyed me, but the device would still be in remarkable shape.  It looks as good as the day I bought it, but once you pick it up and realize the battery cover is loose,  it feels like a piece of garbage in your hand.

 

It made me realize that there is a advantage to the way Apple constructs things.  

 

I own an iPhone now and I'll never complain about the lack of a battery cover.

Eyerone who is complaining about the analogy not working because "there is better watches than rolex" is on my ignore list now. Along with all the grammer nazi's.. I really like posts like these to filter it down to commenters who are saying stuff that has a point and adds to the argument.

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So I am a troll just because I think apple could have done better with the iphone 5? Wow . Nevermind I have had every iphone up until the 5 and I have amacbook pro  , apple tv, and ipad 2 at home. So I am a troll unless I bow down before apple  and love every product they release?

 

Besides the screen I have every feature the iphone 5 has on my iphone 4s. A screen alone and phone design by itself will not make me switch.  I do like the nokia 920.    Also the new dock connector got rid of some things that could be an actual feature like analog audio.

 

 

Think a little more abstractly.

 

YOU GET THE IDEA. Switch out Rolex with Patek Philippe or Panerai or whatever.

 

The "Rolex" of anything has been taken to mean a certain level of quality and refinement. It doesn't need to refer specifically to current Rolexes.

 

If you'll notice, your quote wasn't included in that reply, even though YES, you WERE completely lying about the iPhone 4S.

And I find it interesting that you would try to defend yourself in this regard, since that was the case.

 

 

This screenshot an excerpt from Rules of the Troll, revision A.

 

Ah, so you have an A6 processor, the better GPU, LTE, however much RAM is in there, the better camera, the Lightning port, the third microphone… 

Shut up. That's as nice as I can be to people who say this about the iPhone anymore. You're lying through your teeth and you know it.

Edited by Tallest Skil - 9/14/12 at 9:06am

 

 

FFS are tech nerds able to think abstractly at all?  You sound like a Dell designer. 

 

It's an analogy. It doesn't need to refer specifically to current Rolexes. "Rolex", over the years, has permeated the public consciousness to the degree that we associate the term with the notion of quality and refinement. And the term has stuck. Which is why it's used. It's more recognizable, and associations can be made faster if "Rolex" is used, rather than "Lange & Söhne" or "Jaeger-LeCoultre."

+1. Pithy making a fabulous point. Thank you SolipsismX.

 

Sadly, there is a certain type of person on the internet for whom everything is a cock measuring contest.

The author is trying to make a point here. Plug in whatever watch brand makes you feel good.

Do you want me to post a picture of all the apple products I own? I am reporting you now. You post are getting real nasty . I am sure telling me to shutup is against the rules of this forum. Prove to me that the iphone 4s camera is NOT the same quality. Every site I have seen even apples show the camera specs as the same.  all they did was make it thinner. The fstop ,  mega pixel count, lense count are all the same on the iphone 5 and the iphone 4s.

 

Good luck complaining against the antics of one of the forum mods.....

 

As to posting pictures of all the Apple stuff you have, go on then!

 

OH! So… when you said this… 

 

 

…you were lying, then. Because you know that there is a difference in the camera, at least. And with that knowledge, wouldn't you imagine some other things changed? Such as the CPU, GPU, telephony, microphones, connector, battery… 

 

Seems strange that you'd say one thing and minutes later claim the other.

Jeager LeCoultre, now we're talking. I have one from the 50s that still works great and has a mechanical alarm. A tiny hammer bangs against the case. State of the art in it's time.

Or: The iPhone 5 is like an AAPL among a sea of MSFTs...

Whenever I buy any iPhones, I try to buy some AAPLs to keep them company... Each keeps the other happy and helps make them possible.

No. You're a troll because your post was clear flame bait and full of inaccuracies. Your claim that the iPhone 5 is the same as the iPhone 4 except for the screen size, for example, is wrong.

Furthermore, what makes you think that your claim has any merit? You think Apple could have done better? So you know more about phone development and manufacturing than Apple? Apple has shown an incredible ability to produce phones that are in high demand and which are very well received by the market. The entire industry seems to want to follow Apple most of the time. So what makes your opinion worth anything?

Although not as well understood an appropriate analogy would be a Rolex among a sea of fake Rolexes like the ones illegal street vendors sell down by Battery Park. A Timex is a legitimate watch which should not be compared to Android phones.

 

There's a Bentley for those who are diffident about owning a Rolls-Royce.

Dictated, unedited, on my iPad.

Whenever I need to know the exact time I look at my iPhone!

You will live forever because [your heart is pure] your watch is slow.

You are correct. In fact, there are many more features as well.


Improved display (99% sRGB Standard Color Gamut accuracy)
Improved durability (anodized aluminum back with ceramic glass or pigmented glass, sapphire crystal lens, display edges don't protrude unnecessarily beyond the edge)
Faster Wi-Fi
Improved FaceTime camera
Simultaneous video and still photography
Improved backside illumination
Improved video stabilization
Face detection for video
Wideband Audio (HD Voice)
Superior headphones (EarPods)
Three microphones (Improved call quality and Improved Speech Recognition)

Based on Apple's claims the Apple iPhone 5 should easily be the fastest smartphone available upon release on 21 September 2012.
The Apple iPhone 5 will be the thinnest smartphone available upon release on 21 September 2012.

Some iPhone users desired a larger display; Apple complied without making a significantly larger smartphone while continuing to improve performance and expand features.
Some iPhone users desired a more durable smartphone; Apple complied with an elegant design.
Edited by MacBook Pro - 9/14/12 at 10:01am

Don't think so, but a Kia in a sea of Fords might work

Of 3 original 2007 iPhones, 2 are still in use as IPods. One of these has clear packing tape on the display -- as the display was cracked when hit by a glancing blow from a baseball bat (while in my granddaughter's) back jeans pocket.

Unfortunately the iPod Nano is no longer wearable on your wrist, so your statement is no longer correct.

It's called moving the goalpost. It happens a lot.

Combining two posts from two different posters, and adding some items:

To obliviously boil the delta from iPhone 4S to iPhone 5 to "just a bigger screen" is basically a troll or an extremely oblivious comment. It would have been different if he said "I only care about the bigger screen", but that wasn't what he wrote.

 

“We asked our team to design something better than the iPhone 4S, and they’ve done that…8-megapixel, backside illuminated, hybrid IR filter,” Schiller said. “But they didn’t stop there. They enhanced it even further: Dynamic low light mode, precision lens alignment, sapphire crystal…”

Furthermore, http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/12/apples-iphone-5-camera-promises-better-low-light-performance-built-in-pano

Exactly!  After painstakingly designing it himself, he would take it and throw it in the trash.  Makes sense.

 

Stop attributing your own ignorant opinions to Steve, you have no f-ing clue what he would have done.

 

 

Mark of quality.  :)

 

Over a year and a half and this being your 10th post, I am sure no one really cares.

Ever heard of sarcasm?

How could you possibly know that?

I see sarcasm is lost on you too.

I always preferred Omega to Rolex, but I understand the point the writer was trying to get across ... 

 

Personally speaking I've been waiting for the iPhone 5 for two years now.  Never really felt the need to upgrade from the iPhone 4 to the 4s.  The only thing that really would have made me upgrade was Siri, but it honestly wasn't enough ... especially considering if I just waited a little longer any future products would also have Siri in them.  I'll be ordering an iPhone 5 next month :)  

That may be true for that particular post, but, I'm a huge fan of the iPhone, and I am underwhelmed by this offering. To me, it is what the iPhone 4S should have been.

Nevertheless, it is not something that compels me to upgrade my iPhone 4 (no S). I'll wait for the 5S or 6 next year.

The reality is many of the improved features will not be used by most consumers. I just drove up the entire west coast on the major interstate, and rarely had 3G on AT&T, much less LTE on Verizon (makes me wonder how AT&T thinks its going to retire 2G). Fact is, most consumers are going to see this as a 4/S with a longer screen. Many of the internal improvements are going to be lost on them since the bar was already so high on the 4S. LTE will be a selling point for the naive consumer, many of whom will not have reliable LTE coverage outside of limited major metro areas, nor understand the limitations of Verizon & Sprint networks. They will simply think they have the latest and eatest. But anyone who does their research will likely not upgrade from the 4S, or the 4 for that matter.

I also don't think the metal back is going to be more durable than the glass. Dropping the phone is still going to cause damage in much the same way as dropping the original iPhone did. I had only a few minor slips and ended up with some major dents in the metal case, and cracks in the front glass, even though it never landed on the front. Unlike plastic, there is no give on the case, so the shock is transferred full force, in some cases intensified, throughout the phone.

I will say that this phone seems to be the realization of Steve Jobs dream as represented by the first iPhone, which was kind of a clumsy realization of his metal and glass device ideal. It is very nice looking and the features I use have been given nice improvements. But it is not a must have. My iPhone 4 will keep up just fine for at least another year if not two, unless Apple continues to drop support for things I actually use with iOS 7, or OSX 9.

Lengthening the iPhone holds absolutely no interest for me. I don't want my phone bigger ... I want it smaller. Take the iPhone 4, put it in a metal case, trim the top and bottom bezel to as narrow as practical (get rid of that big honking home button to do it -- see the new Nano), and that's an improvement in mobile smartphones. Hopefully Apple will continue to offer the 4S form factor, updated and revised as necessary, and essentially offering two size choices going forward. However, knowing Apple I will not hold my breath.

Sorry. Not a troll. Just being pragmatic, which I realize does not represent most of the iOS fan community. I've been told that Texas Instruments employees are poised to replace all of their corporate contract iPhone 4S with early termination fees in order to upgrade to the iPhone 5. I can only shake my head, because doing that is a luxury, which to me seems totally unjustified by the improvements of the 5.

And I can only imagine the confusion consumers are going to have choosing between the 4 & 4S. I wonder if the 4S will be a poor seller because people who buy the iPhone for status will choose the free 4 since it loos just like the 4S, and will buy the 5 so people don't think they have the free phone. Smart marketing on Apple's part. But for most consumers, aside from those using them exclusively in major urban markets where LTE is prevelent (and they are data hogs), the marginal differences between the three models will be mostly unnoticed.

 

So instead of completely updating absolutely every single aspect of the phone's operation and making it twice as fast, they should have completely updated absolutely every single aspect of the phone's operation, PLUS the port, PLUS the screen, and made it 4x faster?

 

Come on.

 

 

There's still no AT&T 3G where I live. Does that mean Apple should still be waiting to release a 3G phone? 

 

You mean the improvements to absolutely every aspect of the phone.

 

Given that there was none when it was new, there won't be any now. How does your brain let you type out these words without catching the flaws? 

I live in a place where AT&T doesn't even have 3G. I also live in a place where Verizon has LTE. I'm most decidedly NOT urban in the slightest. Not even major urban. It's a city by legal definition, but it's definitely rural.

Should have? Based on what? Was the technology to make the iPhone 5 available last year? Nope. So how should Apple have been able to make the iPhone 5 last year?

Furthermore, what is it with you trolls who insist that you know more than Apple about building a phone?

Let's see:
Faster processor
Lighter weight
Bigger screen
Better camera
LTE (which is available in hundreds of cities)
Yeah, no one could possibly use any of those features. /s

Wow. So Apple is criticized for having glass on both sides of the iPhone 4S, but now they get criticized for replacing glass with metal on one side because the metal is no better? Could you please get together with all the other trolls and try to be consistent?

Specifically, there have been cases where the iPhone 4/4S was dropped and only the back glass was broken. If they had dropped the iPhone 5 in exactly the same way, there would probably have been no breakage.

More importantly, breakage was not the only reason for replacing the glass with metal. It also contributes to the thinness of the phone.

Yeah, so you know TI's needs better than TI does. I guess that makes sense since you know Apple's capabilities better than Apple does, too. *shakes head*.

And if no one wants the features of the iPhone 5, why is it that it sold out so quickly?

Uh huh. No one will know the difference between the iPhone 4 and 4S so they'll all buy the iPhone 4. I guess that's why the 4S was such a lousy seller. /s

Yeah, that really rolls off the tongue!

Can you make it into a jingle for us???

But in the public vernacular, it is.