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Hewlett-Packard CEO Meg Whitman on Friday revealed that the company is working on a new smartphone, and plans to market the unit heavily in foreign countries where handsets may be a consumer's sole computing device.

In an early morning interview on the Fox Business Network (via Mercury News), Whitman outlined the company's future plans to become relevant in the smartphone arena, a market in which HP has not been successful.

In answering a question regarding whether HP intends to build a smartphone using the assets acquired from its purchase of Palm in 2010, Whitman said, "We are working on this." She went on to say that the company "did take a detour into smartphone, and we've gotta get it right this time."

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HP CEO Meg Whitman. | Source: Hewlett-Packard


Whitman appears to be taking the company's reentry into the saturated smartphone market seriously, and said her mantra to the team working on the project is: "Better right than faster than we should be there."

"We have to ultimately offer a smartphone because in many countries of the world that is your first computing device," Whitman said. "There will be countries around the world where people may never own a tablet, or a PC, or a desktop; they will do everything on the smartphone. We're a computing company, we have to take advantage of that form factor."

The CEO made note of HP's wide-spanning business model, saying that she wants the company to offer the best products from enterprise to tablets and convertibles, "all the way to smartphones." As a short aside, Whitman pointed out that HP recently took over the top spot in workstation sales from Apple.

HP abandoned smartphone development in 2011 after failing to gain traction with devices based on Palm's webOS platform, which the company ultimately made open source.

Whitman gave no hints as to what operating system the upcoming smartphone would use, or when the device would be ready for market.
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Way to get on the bandwagon...

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Yeah, HP? Hi. You know that WebOS thing you had that you destroyed? Use that. Only do it right this time.

 

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Develop, market then sell them off and close down the department. HP is good at two things. Making printers and PC's. Maybe they should stick to that and leave the real talent of making portable tablets and phones to the people who are capable of doing such things.
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So HP got rid of Palm's WebOS smartphone Pre. Since HP wants to develop a Post PC phone, I guess they will call it the "Post". So they've gone from Pre to Post!

Or do you have a suggestion for the HP phone name?

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Good move on HP's part.  This is the correct step - because this is where things are going to go.  Use your cell phone as your computer - use some protocol to drive a monitor, keyboard/mouse; LTE to get to the net, and then some sort of cloud based storage.

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This will be another fun HP disaster to watch!

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HP is entering the game nearly 6 years late. They should just make Windows 8 phones and get out of the mobile phone OS business.

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"HP developing smartphone for 'post-PC era'"

Ummm...didn't they mean the "post-Meg Whitman era"?

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"We have to ultimately offer a smartphone because in many countries of the world that is your first computing device," Whitman said. "There will be countries around the world where people may never own a tablet, or a PC, or a desktop; they will do everything on the smartphone. We're a computing company, we have to take advantage of that form factor."

 

 

 

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Hewlett-Packard CEO Meg Whitman on Friday revealed that the company is working on a new smartphone, and plans to market the unit in foreign countries where handsets may be a consumer's sole computing device.

 

Let me see if I got this right... Meg has identified a market where the people are so poor that food is too expensive, and she wants to build a smart phone for that market? Meg, Meg, Meg, think grass huts. Where will they plug in the charger? Where's the closest cell tower that hasn't been raided for the copper wire? Is HP ready to trade goats for Smart phones? Show me your marketing plan, heck, show me your business plan.

 

One thing I can assure HP is that they will have NO competition in their target market.

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Yup. Here it comes an HP product that we will another doozie and end up on Meg's eBay site. What's with the photo? Meg hasn't look this young since she graduated college.
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The only sad thing is that she's still being paid a fortune for her inane leadership. At this point they could save lots of money by just using a potted plant as a CEO. They would probably get better results, too.

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So HP got rid of Palm's WebOS smartphone Pre. Since HP wants to develop a Post PC phone, I guess they will call it the "Post". So they've gone from Pre to Post!

Or do you have a suggestion for the HP phone name?

RIP... Good name for the phone and the company.
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Yeah, HP? Hi. You know that WebOS thing you had that you destroyed? Use that. Only do it right this time.

At this stage, I think the only way they can pull off WebOS would be to have as close to a one-click recompile of iOS apps to work on WebOS as possible. The biggest complaint about Android seems to be developing for so many devices and the SDK. If HP has a small hardware lineup like Apple and an easy way to port apps over so they can be deployed simultaneously, it would give it a boost. They'd have to undercut Apple significantly on price too.

The other option would be to tack parts of WebOS onto Android but then it's just another Android phone and probably not a very good one. At least they'd have apps from the start though.
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Good move on HP's part.  This is the correct step - because this is where things are going to go.  Use your cell phone as your computer - use some protocol to drive a monitor, keyboard/mouse; LTE to get to the net, and then some sort of cloud based storage.

Oh, they're on that too:
http://www.theonion.com/video/hp-on-that-cloud-thing-that-everyone-else-is-talki,28789/
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Abandoning WebOS the way they did was one of the most fucked up things in business I have ever seen. They threw it away and disbanded all that great talent

It was great for Apple. It completely removed a potential very large competitor. I bought more AAPL when that happened

I like Meg. How else would you respond if you were their CEO?

This is the company that gave SJ his first job. It is so sad

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This is the company that gave SJ his first job. It is so sad


Thought that was Atari.

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Abandoning WebOS the way they did was one of the most fucked up things in business I have ever seen. They threw it away and disbanded all that great talent
It was great for Apple. It completely removed a potential very large competitor. I bought more AAPL when that happened

It goes beyond that. Even if it had made sense to drop the Touchpad and WebOS, the way they handled it was stupid. They dumped the price to $99 - even though the market was willing to pay a lot more. A lot of people (including me) bought some from HP and sold them on eBay for a nice profit. HP could have dropped the price to $299 and sold just as many - but would have had several hundred million dollars in their pockets.

Furthermore, offering to sell WebOS might have been a good idea - if they had done it BEFORE they dumped all the Touchpads on the market and convinced potential buyers that no one would pay a reasonable price for WebOS products.
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Skating to where the puck was...

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IMO, WebOS was good. I almost got one of those tablets when it was like $100. It is the only mobile OS not copying iOS

 

 


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This is the company that gave SJ his first job. It is so sad

Even worse, it's the company that inspired Jobs.
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HP. Just. Has. No. Clue.
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Will it be called the MyPhone?  

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If HP lost $8B in the last quarter, how long can they sustain the development of these devices that have a vague market at best?
How will they be that different from what iOS and Android supply now?
What countries, cities, towns, villages, hamlets or outposts will these be sold in?
If they are inexpensive enough for the poor countries, will there be enough margin to keep the HP division that builds them from being a cost center?
This project seems to fail the smell test.
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HP is out of ideas. Officially.

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Post-pc....post-pc.....post-pc......hmmmmmmmmmm
I know I've heard that somewhere else before.

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post #30 of 64

Meg just wants to make a phone one of her illegal alien domestics can afford...

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"we have to take advantage of that form factor"

Translation:

We are going to throw together a phone half assed and sell it at a low-cost point. Then scratch our heads 2 months later when no one's buying them. Then like Dell, we will silently bow out of the phone market. Followed by a great idea by Meg to continue to put out cheap plastic PC's for big box stores to put on sale every other month.

HP has been ran into the ground. They floated on their good name for as long as they can while selling bottom dollar electronics for the past 5 to almost 10 years. Now that the average consumer has wizened up, things are getting real for HP. Now they want to put out a smart phone.

Ha! Their tablet business is pathetic. So Megan thinks she's going to take that smartphone market by storm. It's almost sad. . . .
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Develop, market then sell them off and close down the department. HP is good at two things. Making printers and PC's. Maybe they should stick to that and leave the real talent of making portable tablets and phones to the people who are capable of doing such things.

Have you seen their PCs and printers lately? Nothing but bottom dollar components and cheap plastic.

If I were in the market for a PC, the brands I would look into would be Lenovo, Asus, Sony.

As for printers, Epson and Canon.
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HP hasn't got a clue how to do a smartphone. Bringing another OS at this late stage of the game is just plain stupid. Even Microsoft is having difficulties bringing Windows to the smartphone and they have a few vendors supporting it and they STILL can't sell many of them.

I think the Android market is too messed up with how they bring a new version release to market. First Google has to release it, then the mfg has to release it, and then they have to get the approval of the carriers. By the time they do this, there is already another release from Google. And there is NO guarantee that you'll always get a new OS. Just look at the Gingerbread users. Do they get ICS and Jelly Bean? NO.

Oh well, I think Android is meant for kids that just want something to play with since they are spending more time playing with the GUI to find a theme that works. To me, their GUI is an actual game that they end playing with. The object of the Android game is to make it look different than everyone else's with animations and to see how much overhead they need to run it.
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But, but, Steve Balmer told us just a few months ago that it'll never be the "post-PC" era!  Who are we to believe??  

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The only sad thing is that she's still being paid a fortune for her inane leadership. At this point they could save lots of money by just using a potted plant as a CEO. They would probably get better results, too.

 

Wait... Meg Whitman isn't a potted plant?

 

Are you sure?

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It includes a hand crank and a rotary dial.
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HP. Please have a product designed, built and finished ready to ship before you tell us. This is one thing I always admired about the way Apple does things.

For now HP Phone = Vapourware
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Remember HP's "Number One Plus"? Neither doesn't anyone else. Of all the things companies should be following Apple for and could be because it's not protectable they sure miss the boat. At least using Post-PC is a step in the right direction for HP.

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Wrong thread placement. Move along.
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Let me see if I got this right... Meg has identified a market where the people are so poor that food is too expensive, and she wants to build a smart phone for that market? Meg, Meg, Meg, think grass huts. Where will they plug in the charger? Where's the closest cell tower that hasn't been raided for the copper wire? Is HP ready to trade goats for Smart phones? Show me your marketing plan, heck, show me your business plan.

 

One thing I can assure HP is that they will have NO competition in their target market.


Boy, are you wrong about this. Sub-Saharan Africa is an emerging market for smartphones (already a highly penetrated feature phone market). Not for iPhones or even Galaxy S3. But  cheaper Android and Symbian phones and Blackberries are already selling in the low millions there.

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