That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.


I find it hard to believe Apple had the same number of 5's as they did 4S's an sold out 20X faster. It doesn't make any sense. I think this is a combination of lower supplies for the US (more countries in at launch date IIRC), a better server to handle the load so more people could order faster without getting locked out, and maybe actually fewer in inventory if the supply problems reports are true.
I also love how so many of this forum are completely myopic. One either drools over every Apple move or one is a Fandroid. I don't think this phone was a innovative in technology as it should have been. I repeated that here several times. It didn't stop me from buying one, but it also didn't stop me from pointing out the flaws I see in Apple's products.
The better server farm to handle these orders I think is what made it sell out so fast. I remember when I preordered iPhone 4, the servers were down at 12am, down at 7am, down at 12pm, and then up for about 30 mins around 4pm. There was a flurry of FaceBook updates with all my friends preordering at the same time I got through as well. With this new system in place, they reserve a phone for you even if they can't get through to the carrier servers. Boom, less downtime, more phones reserved. I think the only reason Apple wouldn't have more phones than the 4S launch is because of the timing they needed the launch to be within: before the end of their 4th quarter.
We'll all know soon enough, either on Monday if Apple deigns us with the info, or in late October in their quarterly conference call. It will be very very good news.
As for this phone not being as technologically innovative as it should have been, what should've been added?! A barometer like some Android phones, so you can be a storm-tracker. Smartphones have come to the point where they are feature-rich now. There is no more truly revolutionary tech that can be added to these phones, hence incremental updates. Unless you can think of some revolutionary tech that no one else can think of? At this point, it comes down to build quality and software. Apple is #1 in build quality and attention to detail, and they like to flaunt it (to the chagrin of some of us). Samsung, HTC, Motorola, and Nokia made some great phones as well. And Apple's software is solid and stable as well, matching feature for feature other phones with popular features in an easy-of-use way. I think they play catch-up with some features because they want to get it right the first time as much as possible.
Anyway, I'm rambling now, move along.
If I were to guess, the iPhone (5, 4S and 4) and the new iPods will sustain high volume sales through December.
New iPad Mini and a tweaked iPad 3 will add additional high volume for the tablet category through December.
An iMac, Mac Mini, AppleTV and Airport upgrade will be just frosting on the cake.
Yeah, but you need to be careful entering complete markup tags into a site that includes its own markup tags... so, the /s shorthand.

If I were to guess, the iPhone (5, 4S and 4) and the new iPods will sustain high volume sales through December.
New iPad Mini and a tweaked iPad 3 will add additional high volume for the tablet category through December.
An iMac, Mac Mini and Airport upgrade will be just frosting on the cake.
OMG, if Apple can push out new iMacs and Mac Minis, FY01/13 is going to be huge. But if they could manage to get out a smaller iPad as well, I don't think there's enough money on the planet for the Apple sponge to soak up.
I'm not exaggerating, I don't think there's enough discretionary income in the market for too many products at one time. I think Apple will hold off any iPad announcements/releases until at least January, if not March as normal.


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If I were to guess, the iPhone (5, 4S and 4) and the new iPods will sustain high volume sales through December.
New iPad Mini and a tweaked iPad 3 will add additional high volume for the tablet category through December.
An iMac, Mac Mini and Airport upgrade will be just frosting on the cake.
OMG, if Apple can push out new iMacs and Mac Minis, FY01/13 is going to be huge. But if they could manage to get out a smaller iPad as well, I don't think there's enough money on the planet for the Apple sponge to soak up.
I'm not exaggerating, I don't think there's enough discretionary income in the market for too many products at one time. I think Apple will hold off any iPad announcements/releases until at least January, if not March as normal.
The iMacs and Minis target consumers, prosumers and business -- as do the iPads, AppleTV and Airports (to some extent). For many businesses the budget cycle for next year is still open. Final Cut Pro X [should be] is ready to drop a new release and it exploits Apple hardware better than any other software -- it can use whatever RAM, SSSD, CPU, GPU you throw at it. There should be no hardware or software barrier to new iMacs or Minis. A standalone 27" Thunderbolt Retina Display would satisfy any high end video demands.
It's nice being in the catbird seat!
The funny thing is people claimed that about Nintendo and the Wii. Clearly they didn't go to stores and see the hordes of people looking daily for the system for the first 2 years it was out. It was always sold out no matter how they raised production. Yes I noticed the sarcasm tag :)

New iPad Mini and a tweaked iPad 3 will add additional high volume for the tablet category through December.
An iMac, Mac Mini, AppleTV and Airport upgrade will be just frosting on the cake.
The naked lady jumping out of the cake would be for Apple to announce a deal with China Mobile to sell the iPhone 5, starting before the Lunar New Year in Feb 2013.




I own...
1 Android Phone, 2 iPads, 1 Windows Tablet, 1 Mac Desktop, 1 Windows Laptop, 1 Linux Server, 1 Linux HTPC
They all are used regularly and each have their place. Competition is good.
I own...
1 Android Phone, 2 iPads, 1 Windows Tablet, 1 Mac Desktop, 1 Windows Laptop, 1 Linux Server, 1 Linux HTPC
They all are used regularly and each have their place. Competition is good.



If Apple truly thought they had supply constraints going into this launch, they wouldn't have launched in so many countries at once. They would have staggered the iPhone 5 rollout as they've done with models in the past, likely concentrating on countries where their profit margins are highest, until sufficient supply became available to meet demand in the launch countries. Only then would they fold new countries into the mix.
The fact they opened broad and immediately sold out indicates Apple truly, severely underestimated demand for this thing. Which is a problem I suppose, but not the worst problem in the world to have. I'm sure Samesung wishes they had that problem...

What 'tech gurus'? You mean 'the self-important tech elite'?
And the markup behavior changes almost daily! 


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...but how many have they "shipped", isn't that the real measure of "smooth" success?
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.

Dude... the quote you are angry about was sarcasm. That's what the "/s" at the end meant. He is on the same side as you but you are not seeing it. Time to switch to decaf.
Please update the AppleInsider app to function in landscape mode.
Please update the AppleInsider app to function in landscape mode.

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That's really too bad - I can't believe how cruel people can be. Whoever ruined this great event for you by forcing you to sit and read all those frightful comments should be ashamed of themselves. I do hope it doesn't scar you for life.

OK - seriously - why are you hanging out here reading threads that annoy and embarrass you so much? Is there something you are not telling us?