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post #81 of 262
Not sure why Samsung old have to sue over LTE when their so clearly shows their superiority ... ;-p
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Insecurity is a bitch, I tells ya. The cool thing about Apple is they never take shots at any other company (not counting Microsoft of course and that's an old rivalry from day one and Steve and Bill respected each other). I am very certain Apple could come up with their own comparison list and make it longer than Samsung's -- ex. Passbook, Custom maps, Airplay, etc. So, these comparison list are stupid, it's like Republicans saying how their plans are better than Democrats (or vice versa) it's all subjective and twisted to make the list maker look best. This is what Pepsi did to Coke when they were trying to get market share. Stay classy Samsung --we'll see how you miss that partner vendor money Apple is slowy pulling out and giving to other companies.

 

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That Galaxy thingie is too damn big.  It's more like one of those phablets than a phone.  I'd take the iPhone 5 for its dimensions alone.

 

Big assed phone... big battery... means heavier phone... did I mention big assed phone?

 

"Smart Stay"... does this have anything to do with the big assed phone getting stuck in your pocket?

 

 "Mama, that man over there is talking to his crotch? Now he's hollering at his privates?!" 

 

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Samsung just keeps on being obnoxious. (I'm not saying the iPhone 5 is the end-all be-all phone, but this ad is definitely deceptive.)
What I cannot tell is how many buyers this will fool.

 

Android buyers are easily fooled... "Look Latasha, I gots me an iPhone, only better!"

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Originally Posted by moonskate View Post

"in what appears to be a highly subjective comparison" 

hmm, it will be interesting to see how "subjective" phone customers will find features like replaceable batteries and memory cards on the new

Samsung. 



Or, a high resolution display, OR perhaps a phone that doesn't go dead as quickly.  Got stuck in an emergency in the mountains, or somewhere with no power?  Which phone would you want to have?  The iphone with 9 days standby, or the Samsung with 30?  You see, the chances of your phone being fully charged after playing angry birds while gabbing for hours is about nill.  And that's subjective?  I'd be willing to bet that if samsung's near 30 day standby time were an iphone 5 feature, apple fans would gloat about it.   I mean does anyone think they'd not like this on an iphone?  

 

I think the standard plug is much better approach.  It's a shame that die hard apple fans like tallest skil can't understand that regardless of what adapters were used in the past, the ad is talking about Samsung's newest offering which is standard.  I'd also be willing to bet most of their past ones are also standard.  Yes, there is one plug for the apple, BUT that's so apple can over charge and control the market on plugs.  Just as they do with their batteries which are not changeable without apple's help.  Apple's approach to everything is to try and take over, then make a proprietary plug or format so they can lock everything down in greed, then pretend it's "innovative".  Remember MP3's?  Superior in every way, as a sound engineer I know they are and more convenient if I could not have access to pure data.  Apple changed that format for ONE reason.  To control people and dip into money that artist could maybe have made.  No other company dared to be so controlling, proving it wasn't needed.

That's why apple's initial fanbase were mostly young and naive.  Because mommy and daddy's credit cards weren't far away and their attitude, "who cares".    So again, where is the standard USB power cord that the entire world is pretty much using?  Leave it to apple to take something that's practically ubiquitous and redo it.  I'd rather take a USB cord off another device be forced into apple's. 

 

Wait a minute.  Isn't the 5S made by the same company that just claimed that Samsung stole their "innovative" new round corners? Seems to me that Apple messed with the wrong company.  I mean, to sue someone over that?  Oh wait, I get it.  If they sue then much of it's credulous fanbase will believe round corners are what make apple so "innovative".  It's sad that they are so proud over something so lame.  Maybe apple should go into the automotive industry and then patent the steering wheel along with round wheels because the others didn't think of doing that.  Toyota, Ford, Gm and others will then need to manufacture this new thing called "the triangle wheel", and mount squares for tires for fear of a lawsuit.  Or they could use octagons.  And this is same one who's slow, over priced computers easily got infected by mac defender, mac flashback and many more, AFTER pretending they were impervious.  Their one supposed advantage and even that failed them.  Yep, I think I'm seeing a pattern here...

Did you actually read again what you just wrote before posting it? When will you stop repeating these juvenile comments about "round conners"? Don't you try to use your own judgement and intellect to reach a conclusion rather then just regurgitating someone else's lame arguments? You know it makes you loose all credibility even if you have a valid point to make?

post #86 of 262
This ad is legitimately super funny lol.

I mean, shake to update and a removable battery?!? That's it, I'm canceling my iPhone 5 pre-order.
post #87 of 262

I don't see "Slide To Unlock" or "Scrolling With Rubber Band Effect" on the list.

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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


Screwed because they already got legacy 30-pin cables and now they have to buy new cables. Apparently, people around the world stand in long lines at Apple Stores because they save money on not having to buy new Dock Connector cables, not to because the iPhone is awesome.

Most of the Apple iDevices will still have the 30 pin connector, so nothing will really be a problem for at least two more years. The new will slowly crowd out the old...

iPhone 4 (still being sold) - old connector

iPhone 4S (still being sold) - old connector

iPod Touch (previous generation still being sold) - old connector

iPod Classic (still being sold) - old connector

iPod Shuffle (still being sold) - old connector

iPad 2 (still being sold) - old connector

iPad (new - still being sold) ) - old connector

 

People that want the latest tech micturate on your weak argument...

post #89 of 262

I would assume that any company can come up with a negative add about anything and make it sound good.

 

I was wondering about the iPhone 5 screen size.  Being that it was no wider than the 4s.  The logic presented at the keynote makes sense.  your thumb and its orientation to the screen.  The samsung model is to wade for your thumb to reach the other side of the screen without compromising the hold on the phone.  Apple makes sense.

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Originally Posted by rbalmer View Post

This ad is legitimately super funny lol.
I mean, shake to update and a removable battery?!? That's it, I'm canceling my iPhone 5 pre-order.

 

I think when you "shake to update" the removable battery flies out.... 

 

...perfect for our etch-a-sketch candidate...

post #91 of 262
I wonder where they got that picture of the iPhone 5, given that it hasn't shipped yet. Perhaps they lifted it from some of APple's (copyrighted) promotional materials?
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Originally Posted by moonskate View Post

Or, a high resolution display, OR perhaps a phone that doesn't go dead as quickly.  Got stuck in an emergency in the mountains, or somewhere with no power?  Which phone would you want to have?  The iphone with 9 days standby, or the Samsung with 30?  You see, the chances of your phone being fully charged after playing angry birds while gabbing for hours is about nill.  And that's subjective?  I'd be willing to bet that if samsung's near 30 day standby time were an iphone 5 feature, apple fans would gloat about it.   I mean does anyone think they'd not like this on an iphone?  

 

If you're stuck in the mountains you'd better wish you had a satellite phone instead of a cell phone. The iPhone with 9 days standby will outlast the food you have in your glove compartment anyway.

post #94 of 262

As if Apple doesn't get enough free advertising, Samsung has to add to it...  :-)

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You know, i KNOW that it would be naive to expect any sort of objectivity in these types of competitor 'comparison' but this ad.. seriously, I don't even know what to say. It takes things to another level completely, and I wasn't even sure if it wasn't self parody at first. Comedic? Insulting to the intelligence? Insanely pathetic?

 

- love "totally different plug". I mean.. totally.

- The last 15 items on Samsung's list are baffling. Random software "features" from touchwiz, and the term features is a stretch. I guess iOS6 has absolutely no software features, since there's nothing on that side. Does the iPhone even boot? They could have just as well listed 200 software features on the left side. Or 50. Or 100. Or 300. It's all so random

- I tried the "palm swipe to capture" thing..and it was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The fact that they actually felt the need to include it on that ad says alot. So that deserves a mention, the most awkward and non intuitive gesture known to man to take a screenshot, and.. iCloud doesn't? Gotcha.

-Tilt to zoom? Fucking really? I mean..I'm trying to imagine how the **** this is even mildly intuitive/useful/logical, and I can't.   

post #96 of 262
IPHONE 5 : 3.95 oz weight 
vs.
GALAXY S III : 4.7 oz weight
 
Samsung they think weight heavier is also a "feature"?  o_O
post #97 of 262
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Originally Posted by moonskate View Post

"in what appears to be a highly subjective comparison" 

hmm, it will be interesting to see how "subjective" phone customers will find features like replaceable batteries and memory cards on the new

Samsung. 



Or, a high resolution display, OR perhaps a phone that doesn't go dead as quickly.  Got stuck in an emergency in the mountains, or somewhere with no power?  Which phone would you want to have?  The iphone with 9 days standby, or the Samsung with 30?  You see, the chances of your phone being fully charged after playing angry birds while gabbing for hours is about nill.  And that's subjective?  I'd be willing to bet that if samsung's near 30 day standby time were an iphone 5 feature, apple fans would gloat about it.   I mean does anyone think they'd not like this on an iphone?  

 

I think the standard plug is much better approach.  It's a shame that die hard apple fans like tallest skil can't understand that regardless of what adapters were used in the past, the ad is talking about Samsung's newest offering which is standard.  I'd also be willing to bet most of their past ones are also standard.  Yes, there is one plug for the apple, BUT that's so apple can over charge and control the market on plugs.  Just as they do with their batteries which are not changeable without apple's help.  Apple's approach to everything is to try and take over, then make a proprietary plug or format so they can lock everything down in greed, then pretend it's "innovative".  Remember MP3's?  Superior in every way, as a sound engineer I know they are and more convenient if I could not have access to pure data.  Apple changed that format for ONE reason.  To control people and dip into money that artist could maybe have made.  No other company dared to be so controlling, proving it wasn't needed.

That's why apple's initial fanbase were mostly young and naive.  Because mommy and daddy's credit cards weren't far away and their attitude, "who cares".    So again, where is the standard USB power cord that the entire world is pretty much using?  Leave it to apple to take something that's practically ubiquitous and redo it.  I'd rather take a USB cord off another device be forced into apple's. 

 

Wait a minute.  Isn't the 5S made by the same company that just claimed that Samsung stole their "innovative" new round corners? Seems to me that Apple messed with the wrong company.  I mean, to sue someone over that?  Oh wait, I get it.  If they sue then much of it's credulous fanbase will believe round corners are what make apple so "innovative".  It's sad that they are so proud over something so lame.  Maybe apple should go into the automotive industry and then patent the steering wheel along with round wheels because the others didn't think of doing that.  Toyota, Ford, Gm and others will then need to manufacture this new thing called "the triangle wheel", and mount squares for tires for fear of a lawsuit.  Or they could use octagons.  And this is same one who's slow, over priced computers easily got infected by mac defender, mac flashback and many more, AFTER pretending they were impervious.  Their one supposed advantage and even that failed them.  Yep, I think I'm seeing a pattern here...

 

I've read quite a few troll posts in my day, but this one takes the cake, for including such a mind-numbing amount of outright falsities and bullshit. If you weren't so insecure, you wouldn't spend all that time to write that useless post on this forum, about a device you hate, that you're not planning to buy, from a company you hate. You're honestly still using the "rounded corners" bullshit? I mean, fucking really? Samsung was order to pay more than a Billion dollars, convicted by an independant jury, for "rounded corners"? Why do you insist on spreading ignorance, and being purposely intellectually dishonest? Either you didn't bother to follow the trial and don't have the faintest understanding of what it was about, or you DID, but are deciding to lie and troll about it anyway.

 

Did you miss the massive document submitted to evidence, made by Samsung, comparing every single iOS screen and UI element to their phones, with the advice on every page being "just make it like that"? Rounded corners my ass. GTFO with your bullshit. Incredible how there's people like you in the world, cheerleader for companies who achieved their success through slavish, cynical copying, and yet you congratulate them for it. From the physical design, to the interface, packaging, cables, accessories, adapters, marketing, retail- Samsung has aped every single aspect of Apple's product in hopes of achieving their success. Where was Samsung before they started coming out with iPhone clones? They made utterly forgettable flip-phones, and Blackberry clones ("Blackjack"). They hadn't shown an ounce of innovation, and were in the bottom tier of junk phone manufacturers. They only started achieving their success with the Galaxy S line, which looked almosy visually identical to the iPhone and iOS.  Coincidence? Yet, you still vomit out the "rounded corners" lie? Incredible. 


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post #98 of 262
If you've been trapped in the mountains for 9 days and still haven't managed to try your cell phone, you likely have bigger issues; like being a moron.

And everything "standard" was new at one point and became standard because it was just a really good idea; such as USB which you pointed out (which I'm fairly certain apple brought to market to the extent of a platform wide computer standard). I get that with any change there is always a few annoyances and some kicking and pouting, but you aren't going to sit there and tell me a digital, much smaller, and reversible option isn't that way to go... Or that something strangely similar won't be on the very next Samsung phone.

And giant corporate greed blah blah blah. Give me a break. I'm sure there are good arguments to make for Samsung, but yours just suck man.
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Marketing rule 101: of you're not Coke, you compare yourself to Coke.
I thought marketing rule 101 was,"if you're not Coke, don't acknowledge the existence of Coke to your potential customers." Why provide free advertising for the market leader?

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post #100 of 262
Here's the 'real' version of the advert.

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This is what I call clever. Why reinvent the weel? And how?

 

So why is it always Apple that "invents the wheel"? They don't. They release their product vision. Instead of companies releasing their respective visions, they don't, they assume that's the "wheel" and decide to make knockoffs, hoping they can confuse some people to buy their product based on the similarity. 

post #102 of 262
It really is comical to see all of the Samsung hate going on in this thread. So much so that I thought I'd throw out some food for thought.

And don't get me wrong, Apple, in many ways, has a superior product. On many levels , the major feature advantages become a matter of personal preference over the ACTUAL advantages of said features. The giant size of the S3, for example, is more comfortable for some hands or eyes and the same goes for the smaller iPhone of any flavor.

Back to my main point, were it not for the existence of Samsung in these phone wars pushing to be "better" than the iPhone, Apple would never have released the iPhone 4. I still see people with 3GS's and are perfectly happy with it and its performance. Apple's ability to produce is unquestioned, when they want to make something new and innovative, they do it like no other company. Where they "fail" in that regard is if their formula is stable, they will leave it where it lies and innovate when necessary to be number 1.

So to all the haters out there... Samsung and all of its faults make Apple who they are by rushing products to market and getting Apple off its comfortable laurels. You will enjoy an iPad mini because there are companies who dared to be smaller and now Apple is copying them... You'll have turn by turn because Apple felt it was about time to add a feature that droids had from day one. You will pay less for this iPhone because Androids are getting cheaper. You will use Samsung memory chips because Apple can't produce its own. Right now you're praying that gorilla glass will make a comeback because your last phone screen broke - while Android users enjoy the results of Steve Jobs provoking Corning to do something greater.

All of this is an ecosystem. Your hate for Samsung is your love for Apple, but most of you fail to realize that without competitors... and I mean REAL competitors... Apple is just another fruit - sweet until it grows old. Samsung forces your orchards to produce the best money can buy :-)
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Also, where would their marketing people get a working iPhone 5 that is fully assembled? It's either a pre-announcement prop, a photoshop of something official, or (outside chance) the real thing.

Uhhh...it's Samsung...they just made a copy

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Apple is Naboo, Samsung is the Trade Federation (because of manufacturing), and the Emperor puppeteering the feeble, subservient Federation is Google.
The thing that bothers me about this analogy is that it probably means the lawyers are the Jedi.

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post #105 of 262

Don't put that up to your head! Big ass phone whats next shoulder straps like those old school mobile phones

 

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It really is comical to see all of the Samsung hate going on in this thread. So much so that I thought I'd throw out some food for thought.
And don't get me wrong, Apple, in many ways, has a superior product. On many levels , the major feature advantages become a matter of personal preference over the ACTUAL advantages of said features. The giant size of the S3, for example, is more comfortable for some hands or eyes and the same goes for the smaller iPhone of any flavor.
Back to my main point, were it not for the existence of Samsung in these phone wars pushing to be "better" than the iPhone, Apple would never have released the iPhone 4. I still see people with 3GS's and are perfectly happy with it and its performance. Apple's ability to produce is unquestioned, when they want to make something new and innovative, they do it like no other company. Where they "fail" in that regard is if their formula is stable, they will leave it where it lies and innovate when necessary to be number 1.
So to all the haters out there... Samsung and all of its faults make Apple who they are by rushing products to market and getting Apple off its comfortable laurels. You will enjoy an iPad mini because there are companies who dared to be smaller and now Apple is copying them... You'll have turn by turn because Apple felt it was about time to add a feature that droids had from day one. You will pay less for this iPhone because Androids are getting cheaper. You will use Samsung memory chips because Apple can't produce its own. Right now you're praying that gorilla glass will make a comeback because your last phone screen broke - while Android users enjoy the results of Steve Jobs provoking Corning to do something greater.
All of this is an ecosystem. Your hate for Samsung is your love for Apple, but most of you fail to realize that without competitors... and I mean REAL competitors... Apple is just another fruit - sweet until it grows old. Samsung forces your orchards to produce the best money can buy :-)

 

That sounds nice and all, but the problem is that Apple's history doesn't provide a shred of evidence to support your premise. I don't recall a time when Apple became 'stale' (minus when Steve Jobs left) because of decreased competition. Was Apple facing competition when it released the original iPhone? No, it wasn't. How about the iPad? No, it wasn't. Those were incredible, innovative, industry changing products, and were created and released irrelevant of competition. Your statement that Apple would have "never released the iPhone 4" if it wasn't for Samsung, is just your random theory, and pretty absurd, since there are no indications whatsoever that this would have been the case. Apple has mostly ignored what the competition is doing through most of its history and its innovative products, which is a good thing. I don't recall a single time where Apple felt 'was on its comfortable laurels' in its entire history. Why don't you enlighten us? When did Apple monopolize an industry then stagnate because of lack of competition? I think Apple has shown itself to be one of the few companies out there that is always willing to challenge itself and radically improve its products, even by cannibalizing  its own sales, regardless of what everyone else is doing. All of Apple's most iconic products were not bourne out of competition, and Apple was not being attacked on those fronts. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were all Apple entering new markets, and creating the best product-by far- in that market. In none of these situations did "competition" play a factor, because there was none. Your theory is nice and all, but really is baseless. Steve Jobs )and his team) wasn't the type to sit back and rest on his laurels, no matter what the industry was doing. 

 

Competition seems to influence Apple very little, as evidenced in the newest iPhone, and screen size. If Apple cared about "catching up" to the competition (as everyone defines it) it would have bowed to the pressure and made a flashy, massive screen like all other flagship phones from other companies. But it didn't. It continues to ignore what the competition is doing, and instead designs products based on its own strong convictions. 

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Quickest trip to the block list yet. The quality of trolls we are getting these days is really slipping when they fail to challenge or even irritate.

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post #108 of 262
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Here's the 'real' version of the advert.

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Lol cute.

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To be fair, none of the Samsung adapters are but well enough to last till your next phone anyway...
...which with samsungs phone quality was generally about 14 weeks.

My iPad 2 wall charger died just after 12 months. Never had a problem with Samsung adapters.
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for everyone that owns a powercase or has a dock basically now useless without a converter if it even works or fits

 

 

So?  I'm fairly certain apple is the only company that has updated a phone model and kept it's shape for at least one generation... and I'm sure you likely bitched about that too.
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You mean that the Android OS actually ships with a mail program?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say?

Of course google approved devices ship with a mail program, and what I said is unlike iOS they don't need a new version of Android to arrive for the mail app to be upgraded.
post #112 of 262
Lol Samsung just paid full ads and gave iPhone 5 1/2 the advert space for free
post #113 of 262

They do not get it. The secret is the interface, and there Apple is the master. As with the iPhone, iPad, iPod and Mac. Once you try them, you do not want competitors even for free!

post #114 of 262
"The next big thing is already here." should read...
The next too big of a paperweight is still there because the phone was turned over in your pocket and it didn't ring.

790 hours of standby?
It's not standby if the phone is turned off.

Their iPhone 5 is a 4/4s with some photoshop showing on the lower right side of the phone.
post #115 of 262

The funny thing is, that, by such (supposedly) feature to feature, component to component "comparison", Samsung's smartphone Division somehow criticizes Samsung's Electronic components division ...

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post #116 of 262
It's sad that Samsung has to resort in such crap misleading ads. The real sorry part of it is that those who don't know better might actually believe it! They may claim a higher resolution, for example, but on a bigger screen, that resolution gets diluted by lesser dpi. All those other things at the end of their list are meaningless gibberish. Apple could do the same thing by listing random stuff too that doesnt mean a whole iota, but Apple is above that nonsense.
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Everything after NFC just sounds like they started making up shit.

 

What the hell is Palm Touch Mute Pause?

It sounds like something you'd see in those badly translated instruction manuals you get with cheap Chinese electronics from eBay.

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Actually, this was hardly a "independent" jury -- as far as I know they were all Americans, defending an American company.

If you wanted a fair trail, it should be done in a neutral country, such as New Zealand or Switzerland. 

Yet in South Korea, Samsung's home Territory, they were in favour of Apple and Samsung is now being investigated by the Fair Trade Commission.

 

Just thought I'd throw that in there. :)

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Classless!
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