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Purported iPhone 5 benchmark score doubles fastest iDevices, outperforms Android's best

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A benchmark score logged on Sunday with Primate Labs' online Geekbench reportedly details the specifics of Apple's iPhone 5, with the new smartphone outperforming the average scores of every iOS and Android device on the website.

iPhone 5 Benchmark
Source: Geekbench


The online benchmarking site reportedly logged a score of 1601 from an "iPhone5,2" that was running iOS 6 on a dual-core ARMv7 processor clocked at 1.02GHz with 1GB of RAM. While it is not impossible to spoof device identifiers, the specifications line up with previous speculation that Apple's A6 SoC boasts a full gigabyte of DRAM and leverages a an ARMv7 CPU with custom-designed cores.

If legitimate, the iPhone5,2's score eked out the highest-performing Android devices, including the Asus-built Nexus 7 tablet and Samsung Galaxy S III. In comparison, no iOS device has surpassed the 800 mark, as last year's iPhone 4S netted a 631 while the third-generation iPad (CDMA) scored 734.

Benchmark Details


When the iPhone 5 was announced on Sept. 12, Apple Senior Vice President of Worldwide Marketing Phil Schiller said the new A6 chip doubled both the processing and graphics performance of the legacy A5 SoC. Also promised was an increase in battery life resulting in 8 hours of 3G or LTE talk time and web browsing.

The quoted performance bump and increase in power efficiency lead some to believe that Apple's A6 would be a quad-core CPU built on Samsung's 32nm fabrication process, however Sunday's benchmark data suggests the chip holds only two processing cores running at a higher clock speed than the A5 processor. Although the exact configuration Apple is using to achieve the huge performance gains while improving on energy consumption is unclear at this time, a full teardown and analysis of the iPhone 5 is expected to yield answers this week when the device officially hits stores on Friday.

Some customers who pre-ordered the handset on Sept. 14 are reporting that shipments have already begun ahead of launch-day deliveries.
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Any Fandroids will tell you they can overclock their Android phones. I mean OVERCLOCK! What that serve a purpose on a phone I don't know.

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If real and accurate, then that score is incredible! It beats out every Android device in existence, including quad core CPUs and various other Android junk clocked at much higher rates! lol.gif

 

When you combine this mega scoring, custom Apple chip and pair it with the ultra efficient and world's best mobile OS called iOS, you simply get the best damn phone in the entire world!

 

I've said this before, but it wouldn't matter if a piece of crap Android device had a damn 8 core CPU and 4 gigs of RAM. At the end of the day, it still runs a poor OS called Android, which bogs down the whole system and requires much higher resources just to operate.

 

Don't worry Fandroids, there is still hope for your phones. In five years time, there will finally be an Android phone released which will almost be as smooth as iOS. It will feature 16 cores, it will be highly overclocked and the phone will be 6 inches thick to accommodate the huge heat sink built into it. And even then, an old one core iPhone will be smoother than it, because of Apple's super efficient OS.lol.gif

 

This score also bodes well for the next iPad. Apple is going to clock that higher than the iPhone 5 (which is at 1 Ghz now, up from 800 Mhz on iPhone 4s), and the iPad 4 (or whatever they call it) will be a screamer.


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Isn't this more the truth http://mashable.com/2012/09/16/iphone-5-disappointment-comic/

 

Apple is a hardware company... and the hardware is getting better and better.

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Impressive. If that is true, android must be really inefficient when they have quad core and 2 gb ram...
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Overclocking presents other problems with battery life AND reliability and might possibly violate the warranty. If it doesn't violate the warranty, but it does produce higher failure rates, then I would tell every Android user to over clock every phone they get their hands on to the point where they either have to constantly buy new phones or return under warranty, which the mfg will probably lose profits and go out of business for too much failure in the field. Or these Android idiots will no longer be able to buy new phones because that make them go broke, or they'll switch to Apple and not that anymore. hahhahahaha. That's a win for Apple.
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Impressive. If that is true, android must be really inefficient when they have quad core and 2 gb ram...

 

What's impressive with besting a Galaxy S3 with 0.8%, while that S3 has been out for 4 months, or a tegra 3 device with 0.1% while that same tegra 3 has been out for almost a year ?

 

It's already well known that a Qualcomm S4 with dual krait cores is about the same speed as a quad core ARM A9 device, depending on the task at hand.

 

Within the next months we'll see the first real A15 dual cores, and even A15 quad cores, which will probably double these figures again and be made available in android/wp8 devices in Q1-2013.

 

That is if you thinks these figures are relevant for the user experience (which iOS fans always say is not the case right up until iOS/Apple device wins a benchmark)

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I'm sure part of it is due to an Anobit SSD controller which probably helps, and I don't think Apple is going to release those patent designs elsewhere.
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Well goes to show that having a quad core in your phone doesn't mean its the best performer.  LOL.

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What's impressive with besting a Galaxy S3 with 0.8%, while that S3 has been out for 4 months, or a tegra 3 device with 0.1% while that same tegra 3 has been out for almost a year ?

 

It's already well known that a Qualcomm S4 with dual krait cores is about the same speed as a quad core ARM A9 device, depending on the task at hand.

 

Within the next months we'll see the first real A15 dual cores, and even A15 quad cores, which will probably double these figures again and be made available in android/wp8 devices in Q1-2013.

 

That is if you thinks these figures are relevant for the user experience (which iOS fans always say is not the case right up until iOS/Apple device wins a benchmark)

 

What might be impressive is not the score itself, but the score relative to its power usage, but that remains to be seen as no data is available yet. And that result should also be compared to the used lithography.

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If real and accurate, then that score is incredible! It beats out every Android device in existence, including quad core CPUs and various other Android junk clocked at much higher rates! lol.gif

 

When you combine this mega scoring, custom Apple chip and pair it with the ultra efficient and world's best mobile OS called iOS, you simply get the best damn phone in the entire world!

 

I've said this before, but it wouldn't matter if a piece of crap Android device had a damn 8 core CPU and 4 gigs of RAM. At the end of the day, it still runs a poor OS called Android, which bogs down the whole system and requires much higher resources just to operate.

 

Don't worry Fandroids, there is still hope for your phones. In five years time, there will finally be an Android phone released which will almost be as smooth as iOS. It will feature 16 cores, it will be highly overclocked and the phone will be 6 inches thick to accommodate the huge heat sink built into it. And even then, an old one core iPhone will be smoother than it, because of Apple's super efficient OS.lol.gif

 

This score also bodes well for the next iPad. Apple is going to clock that higher than the iPhone 5 (which is at 1 Ghz now, up from 800 Mhz on iPhone 4s), and the iPad 4 (or whatever they call it) will be a screamer.

 

All good points, but it still doesn't have the stylus, a kickstand, a helipad, tennis court, jacuzzi, and the screen is way too small compared to to 4.68395542205306495079367933677$^&$$&.394662 meter screen on the Samsung Galaga Epic SIII.

 

Whatever way you look at it, size still matters.

 

That's why I'm holding out for the iPhone 10:

 

 

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What's impressive with besting a Galaxy S3 with 0.8%, while that S3 has been out for 4 months, or a tegra 3 device with 0.1% while that same tegra 3 has been out for almost a year ?

 

...

 

That is if you thinks these figures are relevant for the user experience (which iOS fans always say is not the case right up until iOS/Apple device wins a benchmark)

Guess the fact that according to these tests the iP5 employs a single, dual core processor with 1 GB of RAM isn't significant until you point sneering at one to say 'see that iPhone - it's only got a single processor and 1 GB of RAM... silly deluded Apple fanboy probably doesn't even realise that'.

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What's impressive with besting a Galaxy S3 with 0.8%, while that S3 has been out for 4 months, or a tegra 3 device with 0.1% while that same tegra 3 has been out for almost a year ?

It's already well known that a Qualcomm S4 with dual krait cores is about the same speed as a quad core ARM A9 device, depending on the task at hand.

Within the next months we'll see the first real A15 dual cores, and even A15 quad cores, which will probably double these figures again and be made available in android/wp8 devices in Q1-2013.

That is if you thinks these figures are relevant for the user experience (which iOS fans always say is not the case right up until iOS/Apple device wins a benchmark)

this isn't allowed in these here parts...
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Isn't this more the truth http://mashable.com/2012/09/16/iphone-5-disappointment-comic/

Apple is a hardware company... and the hardware is getting better and better.

just a question...do you think a lot of us Android fans (not users, fans) LONG for an iPhone yet somehow are incapable of getting one of the most easily accessible devices ever?
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just a question...do you think a lot of us Android fans (not users, fans) LONG for an iPhone yet somehow are incapable of getting one of the most easily accessible devices ever?

the vast majority? of course.

 

after all is said and done, the android ecosystem is made of sub 300dollars plastic junk smartphones. the others are just a small percentage. even samsung's data confirmed that. how many nexus were sold again? 4? lol

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just a question...do you think a lot of us Android fans (not users, fans) LONG for an iPhone?

Not at all.

Because you'd have to be perceptive enough to recognise what a great phone it was first before the longing began, wouldn't you?

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just a question...do you think a lot of us Android fans (not users, fans) LONG for an iPhone yet somehow are incapable of getting one of the most easily accessible devices ever?

I've been a member of AI for over 9 years.  For most of that time I didn't have anyone on my ignore list.  Now I do, including yourself.  Apple is relevant now to a much, much wider audience but resentments run very, very deep.  Apple cannot be the leader now, after years of irrelevance!  Are you one of those windoze users who looked forward to Apple's demise, only now to be frustrated to heck with its success?  In short, I do not care less what fandroids think, their opinions are totally of no interest to me.  I have an iPhone 4 that will be almost as useful after Friday once I have an iPhone 5 as it is today (except that I won't be taking calls on it).  I'm a hardware person, Apple is a hardware company, my kind of company!  So, all I'm prepared to say is give us all a break and go away.

 

All the best.

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So last week when the current iPhone was clocking pathetic scores in this benchmark, the numbers didn't matter because it as all about the user experience. Right now, it's all about the numbers and how fast the new iPhone is. In a month or two, when the first Qualcomm S4 Pro phones are released and smash these scores, the numbers won't matter again because it will be all about the user experience. You can't have it both ways - either the benchmarks mean something and the iPhone is slower than other phones for 10 months of every 12-month release cycle or they don't.
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So last week when the current iPhone was clocking pathetic scores in this benchmark, the numbers didn't matter because it as all about the user experience. Right now, it's all about the numbers and how fast the new iPhone is. In a month or two, when the first Qualcomm S4 Pro phones are released and smash these scores, the numbers won't matter again because it will be all about the user experience. You can't have it both ways - either the benchmarks mean something and the iPhone is slower than other phones for 10 months of every 12-month release cycle or they don't.

With the iPhone AND iOS you can have it both ways!  That is something you fandroids just do not understand.  Scores are fun, the user experience unequalled!

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Apple usually clocks on the low side to play conservative with battery life, so I am sceptical over this.
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Macs were always compared to Windows in the day in the same way: you could overclock a Wintel box to "out-benchmark" a Mac.

However, why was it that in day-to-day use, a lower clocked, with less mHz PowerPC processor, with less RAM... almost always beat out a "comparable" Wintel box, especially when running WinXP?

The reason simply: it's the perfect marriage of hardware and OS, not to mention that a motherboard has more to it than just the processor and RAM. How about cache for instance? Or the bus chips, etc.

Here we are again, doing the exact same benchmarks and not taking into consideration the other things that Apple specifically designs (like the board and chip layout itself)... then marrying it to the OS with NO other instruction sets than what is needed. That's called efficiency.

Are there really no other people that realize this? Even tech sites? As many have noted, you could throw 8 cores with 16gb RAM in a device, and if it is not optimized through the OS, it very well could be slower than 1 core/1gb set up.

In a different thread here on AI, someone actually did point this out, in that even quad-cores from different manufacturers are completely different, and actually don't compare well at all, or should be.
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So last week when the current iPhone was clocking pathetic scores in this benchmark, the numbers didn't matter because it as all about the user experience. Right now, it's all about the numbers and how fast the new iPhone is. In a month or two, when the first Qualcomm S4 Pro phones are released and smash these scores, the numbers won't matter again because it will be all about the user experience. You can't have it both ways - either the benchmarks mean something and the iPhone is slower than other phones for 10 months of every 12-month release cycle or they don't.

LOL the iphone 4S was by far the fastest phone out there (UI). we do not care about processor numbers, we care about specs like UI speed (the ones that matter and contribute to user experience).

 

the iphone has always been the best and fastest.

 

are you hurt useless fandroid?

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Galaxy S3 Geekbench scores vary.  Maybe need to test them in similar settings and applications?

 

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=Galaxy+S+III

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Those numbers seem bogus. I'll wait for some real numbers after the iPhone has actually been released.

True or not though you'd still be stuck running only what Apple allows you. The great wall of Apple is a real pain in the ass.

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So last week when the current iPhone was clocking pathetic scores in this benchmark, the numbers didn't matter because it as all about the user experience. Right now, it's all about the numbers and how fast the new iPhone is. In a month or two, when the first Qualcomm S4 Pro phones are released and smash these scores, the numbers won't matter again because it will be all about the user experience. You can't have it both ways - either the benchmarks mean something and the iPhone is slower than other phones for 10 months of every 12-month release cycle or they don't.

 

What you don't get is this: Android can not equal Apple's smooth UI even with higher benchmark scores because the Android OS requires too much overhead. Android devices NEED the high scores for basic operation; with Apple higher scores mean better graphics and running apps that that Android can only dream of running. We are celebrating higher scores because it means the upper limits of an experience have stretched out even further... you can celebrate Android speed because your scrolling is finally less jerky.

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Those numbers seem bogus. I'll wait for some real numbers after the iPhone has actually been released.

True or not though you'd still be stuck running only what Apple allows you. The great wall of Apple is a real pain in the ass.

 

The "great wall" is a pain that I can't feel as the applications available are endless, but I'm sure you enjoy your malware...

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LOL the iphone 4S was by far the fastest phone out there (UI).

 

have a look at a single core lumia 800, now that's a fast UI, with live tiles as well and not static icons...

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Those numbers seem bogus. I'll wait for some real numbers after the iPhone has actually been released.

True or not though you'd still be stuck running only what Apple allows you. The great wall of Apple is a real pain in the ass.

can you run infinity blade?

 

 


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have a look at a single core lumia 800, now that's a fast UI, with live tiles as well and not static icons...

 

the 4s is faster.

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Galaxy S3 Geekbench scores vary.  Maybe need to test them in similar settings and applications?

 

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=Galaxy+S+III

 

Since the Galaxy S3 benchmarks at your link vary so much, it could be due to background setting and tasks that the users may not be aware of when the phone was submitted. I think if you look at how the tests for this story were done, you'd see they attempted to control the variables as best as possible.

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Seems Samsung is watching the news. The Galaxy SIII score was updated to 1628 (from 1560 few hours earlier) :)

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have a look at a single core lumia 800, now that's a fast UI, with live tiles as well and not static icons...

...now, if only people would buy them...

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I'm going to post here for posterity sake, and because the other threads regarding the so-called "ho-hum" iPhone 5 upgrade were so full of worthless trolling:

1) iPhone 5s, 6, 7....probably for the next few years, will be this same form factor.Through it's current iconic and perfect form, the iPhone will continue for the next few generations to be the very best mobile "phone" money can buy. Period.

2) the hardware inside of the iPhone will be continually upgraded, and chips like NFC added only if the market is ready to embrace the technology the addition will provide (see LTE).

3) as camera, chip, connectivity, charging, battery, tech advances... and it fits in the very least the iPhone 5 form factor... it will then be added. You will not see a bigger or heavier phone from Apple just to include inductive charging. BTW: Apple owns a number of patents for IC that they will surely use if the time and advantage is right.

4) the biggest advances will come from iOS and the further merging of OSX and iOS and as chip-tech advances allow. However that time just might be now (see below).

5) I definitely see other devices being released from Apple in between the size of the iPhone and the iPad. And it's those future devices, that Apple will gladly allow to cannibalize the iPhone if so be it.... HOWEVER.... and here's the "Big Point" for the win.....

6) you know that Lightning connector that a lot of people are poo-pooing and complaining about? Well that innocuous but HUGE change, is going to be what connects iDevices to iMacs, Macbooks... and specifically the Apple monitors of the future.

I thoroughly expect the next update to Apple's line of monitors, to include not only Airplay on board (monitors), but also to be the complete extension hub through the Lightning connector. This will allow a "dumb screen" approach to connecting trackpads, mice, keyboards, Wacom tablets, etc... conserving power, and also charging the device at the same time. Once you pull it out of the monitor, you're still able to control it over the BT 4.0 connection, as well as use the monitor as... get this... a TV screen.


If my predictions seem to far "out" there... I would suggest that interested readers take a look at the number of patents Apple has been granted for just what I'm relaying above: PatentlyApple
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Seems Samsung is watching the news. The Galaxy SIII score was updated to 1628 (from 1560 few hours earlier) :)

 

I love it!!  Ask Samsung for a score and they ask you, "What number do you want??"

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I'm going to post here for posterity sake, and because the other threads regarding the so-called "ho-hum" iPhone 5 upgrade were so full of worthless trolling:
1) iPhone 5s, 6, 7....probably for the next few years, will be this same form factor.Through it's current iconic and perfect form, the iPhone will continue for the next few generations to be the very best mobile "phone" money can buy. Period.
2) the hardware inside of the iPhone will be continually upgraded, and chips like NFC added only if the market is ready to embrace the technology the addition will provide (see LTE).
3) as camera, chip, connectivity, charging, battery, tech advances... and it fits in the very least the iPhone 5 form factor... it will then be added. You will not see a bigger or heavier phone from Apple just to include inductive charging. BTW: Apple owns a number of patents for IC that they will surely use if the time and advantage is right.
4) the biggest advances will come from iOS and the further merging of OSX and iOS and as chip-tech advances allow. However that time just might be now (see below).
5) I definitely see other devices being released from Apple in between the size of the iPhone and the iPad. And it's those future devices, that Apple will gladly allow to cannibalize the iPhone if so be it.... HOWEVER.... and here's the "Big Point" for the win.....
6) you know that Lightning connector that a lot of people are poo-pooing and complaining about? Well that innocuous but HUGE change, is going to be what connects iDevices to iMacs, Macbooks... and specifically the Apple monitors of the future.
I thoroughly expect the next update to Apple's line of monitors, to include not only Airplay on board (monitors), but also to be the complete extension hub through the Lightning connector. This will allow a "dumb screen" approach to connecting trackpads, mice, keyboards, Wacom tablets, etc... conserving power, and also charging the device at the same time. Once you pull it out of the monitor, you're still able to control it over the BT 4.0 connection, as well as use the monitor as... get this... a TV screen.
If my predictions seem to far "out" there... I would suggest that interested readers take a look at the number of patents Apple has been granted for just what I'm relaying above: PatentlyApple

 

While I don't have any idea of what Apple has in the works, I will bet they do have plans for this connector that, by the time it becomes apparent, it will be too late for the competition to make easy corrections.

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Here's another thought:

I bet if Apple took Android and put it on any of their hardware, starting with the 3gs... it would be twice as fast as any other Android device on the planet.

Apple's hardware engineers are the very best on the planet. THEY have no competition.
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Nope, it doesn't beat every Android device. Galaxy S3 with Samsung Exynos 4412 1400 MHz Quad core has 1628 score. The Asus Nexus 7 with NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L 1300 MHz Quad core has 1604 score. It is quite a feat by A6, however, since it is just a Dual core chip but manages to compete with most of the present incarnation of Quad core chips out there. Unfortunately, per usual, A6 will fall behind some upcoming chips already waiting in the wings and to be used within the next couple of months; thus, Iphone will be behind the curve again. The spec war is something that Apple can never win, neither with Macs nor with IOS devices. SJ knew this, so he'd rather rely on Apple's strength, i.e. ecosystem and user experiences, plus lots and lots of RDF.

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If real and accurate, then that score is incredible! It beats out every Android device in existence, including quad core CPUs and various other Android junk clocked at much higher rates! lol.gif

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Considering it's the USB connector, the one that Apple championed and was the first to use on all of their products,which they're now throwing under the bus with all of their devices upgraded with Thunderbolt and Lightning... yes.. it will take a year or longer(?) for OEM's both desktop and mobile to realize that once again... they've been run over(!).
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just a question...do you think a lot of us Android fans (not users, fans) LONG for an iPhone yet somehow are incapable of getting one of the most easily accessible devices ever?

Why the **** wouldn't you use something you're a fan of? And if you don't, how exactly can you be a fan of it, which implies liking it greatly based on your experience with it? Am I missing something? Most irrational thing I've ever read.
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Since the Galaxy S3 benchmarks at your link vary so much, it could be due to background setting and tasks that the users may not be aware of when the phone was submitted. I think if you look at how the tests for this story were done, you'd see they attempted to control the variables as best as possible.

it is related to mods and overclocking. yes, i know how pathetic that is.

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Nope, it doesn't beat every Android device. Galaxy S3 with Samsung Exynos 4412 1400 MHz Quad core has 1628 score. The Asus Nexus 7 with NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L 1300 MHz Quad core has 1604 score. It is quite a feat by A6, however, since it is just a Dual core chip but manages to compete with most of the present incarnation of Quad core chips out there. Unfortunately, per usual, A6 will fall behind some upcoming chips already waiting in the wings and to be used within the next couple of months; thus, Iphone will be behind the curve again. The spec war is something that Apple can never win, neither with Macs nor with IOS devices. SJ knew this, so he'd rather rely on Apple's strength, i.e. ecosystem and user experiences, plus lots and lots of RDF.

Considering that even Google admitted with their release of Jelly Bean, that the UI and UX most definitely needed refinement and needed to be smoother... well what does Apple's RDF have to do with it? Apple's devices have all run smoothly since at least the iP3.

iOS 6 and the new hardware just adds to what was always the smoothest and most responsive hardware on the market... even if it was out-spec'ed. Those SIII's are not faster in everyday use than even the iPhone 4s... so again, no RDF from Apple is needed. It's just plain fact at this point, and Google is "trying' to address that fact.

Or do you know more than your beloved Android engineers too now?
Knowing what you are talking about would help you understand why you are so wrong. By "Realistic" - AI Forum Member
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Knowing what you are talking about would help you understand why you are so wrong. By "Realistic" - AI Forum Member
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