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post #121 of 145

I think you're right about the Iphone undocumented feature, the death grip. Even the former Russian President Medvedev [now a Russian Premier] thought it was a cool feature. 

 

 

 

 

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Your analogy reminded me of a Ferrari California vs a Cadillac Sportswagon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mov4R2ua1yA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Love it! lol.gif  One can also make the point that there is a difference between going a mile in a straight line and tearing around 2-3 miles of hairpin curves and chicanes. Might even be applicable to the discussion here.

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"Any meaningful way"? Being able to look at the source code and edit it in any way possible is not meaningful enough?

 

The source of what? Android? android? Linux? The bottom line is that you can't look at the source code of Android because much of it is proprietary. There's some Linux code that Google tries to confuse everyone about by calling it Android, but it's not. The source code for Android simply isn't available, you have to license it from Google to get it, which means being a handset OEM and playing by Google's rules. So, yes, I know some of you think you can, but you can't.

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The source of what? Android? android? Linux? The bottom line is that you can't look at the source code of Android because much of it is proprietary. There's some Linux code that Google tries to confuse everyone about by calling it Android, but it's not. The source code for Android simply isn't available, you have to license it from Google to get it, which means being a handset OEM and playing by Google's rules. So, yes, I know some of you think you can, but you can't.

This might be an Apple board, but you can't just go rattling off untruths. Google pretty much releases all the source for the core operating system. Device drivers by 3rd parties can come as blobs. If what you said was true, there wouldn't be two generations of Kindle with roots in Android.

post #125 of 145
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I think you're right…

 

Yeah, I was making fun of your completely pointless and irrelevant post. Sorry you were too blind to see it. 

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post #126 of 145
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And that's the problem with comparing ANY benchmarks from multiple sources (especially anonymous ones). For a benchmark to have any chance of being useful, it has to be run under controlled conditions. Simply pulling benchmarks off the 'net from multiple different sources is largely useless.
 

 

Uhm, they were ALL from the geekbench site.  I followed one of those links and then just browsed around the results section.  They all run the same stuff, the only differences are cores and frequency.  There is a ridiculously wide range of scores, even when you look at just the same core count and frequency.  It seems way too variable to me.

post #127 of 145
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This might be an Apple board, but you can't just go rattling off untruths. Google pretty much releases all the source for the core operating system. Device drivers by 3rd parties can come as blobs. If what you said was true, there wouldn't be two generations of Kindle with roots in Android.

 

If what you said was true, Amazon would be advertising Fires as Android devices and Acer would be free to do whatever they want with Android, android, or whatever fork. Google also wouldn't be controlling what location services system OEMs use. And so on, and so on. The lie is that Android is open. It isn't. It never will be. And Google controls Android and rules the "OHA" with an iron fist.

 

Personally, I don't really care whether it's open or not, I'm just sick of listening to the nonsense and lies that it is.

post #128 of 145

I think the important thing to remember here is that Apple's Iphone is better than any Android phone on the market, Apple is a superior innovator, they make the best products, the did not copy android features, and they are in generally every way better than android OEMs and google.

 

Its nice when benchmarks prove that point but lets face it... we already knew as much.

post #129 of 145

look at that,   someone at Samsung didn't like how this was going and replaced and faked some over clocked scores in for the Galaxy SIII now....

 

that is truly funny....

 

someone just did a java score too,  iphone really kicked arse there too...

 

iPhone 5 Beats Everything In Javascript Benchmarks, Twice As Fast As iPhone 4S | Cult of Mac

post #130 of 145

Sorry, but S3 running Jelly Bean easily outperforms iPhone 5 running iOS6: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1056598 

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Samsung Galaxy S III  Samsung Exynos 4412 1400 MHz (4 cores)   Score  1756

 

iPhone5,2"  dual-core ARMv7 processor clocked at 1.02GHz (2 cores)  Score 1601

 

 

i got the scores off browser.primatelabs own website look it up your self  so how is it the apple is faster with a lower Score? 

post #132 of 145
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Sorry, but S3 running Jelly Bean easily outperforms iPhone 5 running iOS6: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1056598 

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Samsung Galaxy S III  Samsung Exynos 4412 1400 MHz (4 cores)   Score  
1756


iPhone5,2"  dual-core ARMv7 processor clocked at 1.02GHz (2 cores)  Score 
1601



i got the scores off 
browser.primatelabs own website look it up your self  so how is it the apple is faster with a lower Score? 

Which hardware and software provides superior performance is effectively irrelevant since the Geekbench performance scores are similar. The critical point is that (apparently) a 1.0 GHz dual-core processor rivals 1.4 GHz quad-core processors (presumably) sharing the same 32nm high-k + metal gate LP process. Furthermore, Apple has much higher power efficiency at virtually the same performance considering 5.45 watt-hours at 3.8 volts for the iPhone 5 versus 7.98 watt-hours at 3.8 volts for the Samsung Galaxy S III yet the batter life performance on the Samsung Galaxy S III is apparently horrid.
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Which hardware provides superior performance is effectively irrelevant since the Geekbench performance scores are similar. The critical point is that (apparently) a 1.0 GHz dual-core processor rivals 1.4 GHz quad-core processors (presumably) sharing the same 32nm high-k + metal gate LP process. Furthermore, Apple has much higher power efficiency at virtually the same performance considering 5.45 watt-hours at 3.8 volts for the iPhone 5 versus 7.98 watt-hours at 3.8 volts for the Samsung Galaxy S III.

Im a big apple fan and just ordered 2 of the iphone 5's for my business account with sprint. THat being said.... WHATS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU APPLE FANBOYS? Why dont you look at the facts...

 

Fact- A dual-core Qualcomm snapdragon S4 in the evo one x scores 1560 in geekbench (3% slower than a purported benchmark of an A6)

 

Fact-The s4 (according to anandtech) consumes 3.7 w/hr at full throttle (2x750mw/hr cores plus 1.2w/hr gpu)

 

Fact- The s4 has been out in phones since May of this year. Its 5 months older than the A6, 3% slower, uses less power and with verizon or sprint CAN DO VOICE AND DATA AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!  

 

The simultaneous voice and data is the MAIN reason thats keeping me from switching my personal phone to a Iphone 5. The a6 is a very good chip and made a big leap to catch up to qualcomms Snapdragon technology. However Id still take the snapdragon with the integreted LTE and radio, lower power consumption and simultaneous voice and data all day long. YES THE A6 BEATS THE HECK OUT OF THE TEGRA3, NO ONE IS ARGUING ABOUT THAT. 

 

BTW... Im typing on my macbook air 11". which imho is by far the best personal computer EVER made. Nothing has ever compared to the build quality, looks and fuctionality of the macbook air's.

post #134 of 145
Originally Posted by WESALLEN View Post
Im a big apple fan and just ordered 2 of the iphone 5's for my business account with sprint. THat being said.... 

 

 

…with verizon or sprint CAN DO VOICE AND DATA AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!

 

Do you not know about VoLTE? That's what Apple is doing. When Verizon turns VoLTE on, Apple will have done with two antennas what everyone else takes three to do. The existing CDMA+LTE data+voice is a stopgap solution.

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post #135 of 145
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Do you not know about VoLTE? That's what Apple is doing. When Verizon turns VoLTE on, Apple will have done with two antennas what everyone else takes three to do. The existing CDMA+LTE data+voice is a stopgap solution.

The S4 does it WITHOUT any LTE service. It does it using standard cdma. 

 

Wait for verizon to turn it on? Again, the S4 is five months old and does not need it "to be turned on".

 

Most sprint users dont have LTE and wont have it anytime soon. Thanks sprint for screwing us with your stupid wimax expiriment.

post #136 of 145
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Do you not know about VoLTE? That's what Apple is doing. When Verizon turns VoLTE on, Apple will have done with two antennas what everyone else takes three to do. The existing CDMA+LTE data+voice is a stopgap solution.

Apple buys its radio chip from Qualcomm. Its not built in house. Nice try fanboy.

post #137 of 145
Originally Posted by WESALLEN View Post
The S4 does it WITHOUT any LTE service. It does it using standard cdma. 

 

How? That doesn't sound correct.

 

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Apple buys its radio chip from Qualcomm. Its not built in house. Nice try fanboy.

 

How is this a rebuttal to anything that I have said? We don't use "fanboy" here.

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post #138 of 145
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Apple will have done with two antennas what everyone else takes three to do.

 

Apple hasnt done this... qualcomm has and the S4 radios are built into the SoC. It doesnt need an additional radio chip as the a6 does.

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How? That doesn't sound correct.

 

 

 

It places the call on 1xRTT and keeps the EvdoA for data. Its really nice if you tether alot (I do) when a text or phone call comes in your internet doesnt go out.

 

heres a link http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/24/sprints-htc-evo-4g-lte-supports-simultaneous-voice-and-data-over-3g/

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It places the call on 1xRTT and keeps the EvdoA for data. Its really nice if you tether alot (I do) when a text or phone call comes in your internet doesnt go out.

 

heres a link http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/24/sprints-htc-evo-4g-lte-supports-simultaneous-voice-and-data-over-3g/

Actually, because they are using the qualcomm radio.... It looks like the iphone 5 might support simultaneous voice and data on sprint. A few articles seem to point to this. Ill try it out on one of mine as soon as it gets in.

post #141 of 145
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Do you not know about VoLTE? That's what Apple is doing. When Verizon turns VoLTE on, Apple will have done with two antennas what everyone else takes three to do. The existing CDMA+LTE data+voice is a stopgap solution.

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How? That doesn't sound correct.


How is this a rebuttal to anything that I have said? We don't use "fanboy" here.

Apparently the person to whom you are responding has no clue of what he speaks.
post #142 of 145
The mock iPhone 10 ad for the tallest iPhone yet defies the logic of this advert:

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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post
Apparently the person to whom you are responding has no clue of what he speaks.

 

Well, I dunno; he could be right. I don't know if he's right, it just goes against everything I've read about CDMA… ever. And if what he's saying is the case, why didn't they do it five years ago with all phones?

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post #145 of 145
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Well, I dunno; he could be right. I don't know if he's right, it just goes against everything I've read about CDMA… ever. And if what he's saying is the case, why didn't they do it five years ago with all phones?
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Well, I dunno; he could be right. I don't know if he's right, it just goes against everything I've read about CDMA… ever. And if what he's saying is the case, why didn't they do it five years ago with all phones?

I didn't read his posts. I read your responses to his posts. I have a liberal policy toward blocking members.

He is technically correct, the Sprint HD Voice service (CDMA 1X Advanced technology over Qualcomm's EVRC-NW (Enhanced Variable Rate Codec – Narrowband-Wideband) codec) does allow simultaneous voice and data transmission. The issue is that Sprint has a single smartphone, the HTC Evo 4G LTE supports HD Voice in a few markets and both mobile phones must be HD Voice enabled.

I will repeat that just to be clear. Both users must be using the HTC Evo 4G LTE smartphone and they must be in one of a few markets (Atlanta, Baltimore, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City and San Antonio).

This is why I laugh when people complain that Apple moves too slow. The Sprint HD Voice solution is the most ridiculous solution ever devised although the solution will eventually make a reasonable failover solution from LTE which is the primary motivation for Sprint since they are co-deploying the solution with LTE.
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