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post #1 of 33
9/17/12 at 10:35am
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Ahead of this week's iPhone 5 launch, third-party adapters for Apple's new Lightning connector have begun to appear online. In addition, the new iPod touch and nano can also be preordered from Amazon.

As of Monday, resellers on Amazon were offering a pair of new Lightning to 30-pin adapters made by third parties. The $17.95 Nanotch adapter features a male Lightning port on one end, with a female legacy 30-pin device port on the other. The two are connected by a 20-centimeter cord.

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Also available is the $9.99 iTronz USB Sync Data/Charging adapter. It features a male Lightning plug on one side, with a female 30-pin port on the other, and the two are connected by a single solid plastic piece rather than a wire.

Apple sells its own first-party Lightning to 30-pin adapter and cable, but those accessories quickly sold out once they went on sale late last week.

In addition, as of Monday, Amazon began taking direct preorders for Apple's updated iPod lineup. Available for purchase are the new fifth-generation iPod touch, the seventh-generation iPod nano with multi-touch display, and the fifth-generation iPod shuffle.

The new iPod lineup is advertised to ship anywhere between two and five weeks from now. Apple has said its new iPods will ship in October. The latest iPod touch and iPod nano, along with the iPhone 5, use the new Lightning port, which is 80 percent smaller than the legacy 30-pin dock connector.
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post #2 of 33
9/17/12 at 10:45am
The question is how well these third party adapters will handle analog audio output for things like speaker docks that don't use digital audio. The Apple adapter has the electronics to provide analog audio output which presumably results in high quality, low noise sound. These aftermarket adapters might not do it as well and in some cases, will probably just be pin converters that don't do it at all.
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post #3 of 33
9/17/12 at 10:47am
So who's gonna be the first brave soul to try one?
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post #4 of 33
9/17/12 at 10:53am
Not the only one ...

http://www.amazon.com/iTronz-Charging-Lightning-Adapter-iPhone/dp/B009BPLVAI/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347904170

All Pre-orders though for delivery at the beginning of October ...
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post #5 of 33
9/17/12 at 10:55am
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Not the only one ...
http://www.amazon.com/iTronz-Charging-Lightning-Adapter-iPhone/dp/B009BPLVAI/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1347904170
All Pre-orders though for delivery at the beginning of October ...

That's the same one from the article.

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post #6 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:04am

Who knows how good it will be.

 

All I want is an adapter to help utilize the 3 different chargers I use.

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post #7 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple sells its own first-party Lightning to 30-pin adapter and cable, but those accessories quickly sold out once they went on sale late last week.

 

Only they didn't, because their availability has always said "October," from the moment they showed up in the online store. The USB adapters, on the other hand, DID sell out, and now show availability two-three weeks out. You're just going to double down on this incorrect report, aren't you AI?

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post #8 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:17am

Is it just me, or did they just photoshop the Apple adapter?

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post #9 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:24am
My experience is that most third party iPod / iPhone cables and adapters, even the branded ones sold at Best Buy with the official Made for iPod / iPhone logos are inferior or in some cases, piss poor quality. However, the existence of these non-Apple adapters should quell the "Apple is greedy" trolling. On the second thought, it probably won't.
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post #10 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:26am
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Is it just me, or did they just photoshop the Apple adapter?

 

I agree. They're nearly identical images.

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post #11 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:29am
These adapters -- from Apple or third-parties alike -- would be a lot more interesting if they offered some way to securely support the iPhone. Using them in conjunction with a docking station will be precarious at best without some form of support.

I can imagine a lot of broken adapter "tabs" and damaged iPhones in the next couple of months.
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post #12 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:29am

Glad to see.  I really don't want to be spending hundreds of dollars replacing power cables.

 

Sure, if you need to pass high quality audio, then buy the Apple adapter.  If you just want to charge your phone at work, then I'll take the cheaper, crappier option.

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post #13 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:31am

I ordred one - simply don't want to wait until i can hook up my iPohne 5 to may car - i may keep it as a spare once i get the official apple product. Shame apple could not have foreseen the demand for the adapters better.

I see on eONE star review on amazon by someone who simply won't try it - pathetic review - I know it was not left by anyone on these threads....

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post #14 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:39am
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The question is how well these third party adapters will handle analog audio output for things like speaker docks that don't use digital audio. The Apple adapter has the electronics to provide analog audio output which presumably results in high quality, low noise sound. These aftermarket adapters might not do it as well and in some cases, will probably just be pin converters that don't do it at all.

Answer is, they won't, but neither will Apple's. 

The real question is, will they support digital audio out, since it looks like the reason for the cost of the adaptor is a DAOC chip to create the audio-out.

Frankly, a knock-off without that chip is fine for me, since all I want is an adaptor to go on a few cables.

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post #15 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:39am
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post
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Oh, yeah. I RE~ALLY trust a company that just took the Apple adapter and slapped their name on it using PREVIEW. Yeah, I RE~ALLY believe that not only is this a legitimate company but also that they have made actual adapters. Oh, yeah.

 

Frigging Amazon.

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post #16 of 33
9/17/12 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by essex sound lab View Post

These adapters -- from Apple or third-parties alike -- would be a lot more interesting if they offered some way to securely support the iPhone. Using them in conjunction with a docking station will be precarious at best without some form of support.
I can imagine a lot of broken adapter "tabs" and damaged iPhones in the next couple of months.


This is exactly why I ordered the .2m version. I'm hesitant to order 3rd party so quickly without an established track record and reviews, and also hesitant to risk damaging the new phone or adapter (since both are incredibly expensive) by using an adapter with no 'give' built in to it.

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post #17 of 33
9/17/12 at 12:42pm

How is it possible? How could a company with Apple's design sense do it? Every one of the new iPod nano colors looks sick.

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post #18 of 33
9/17/12 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

My experience is that most third party iPod / iPhone cables and adapters, even the branded ones sold at Best Buy with the official Made for iPod / iPhone logos are inferior or in some cases, piss poor quality. However, the existence of these non-Apple adapters should quell the "Apple is greedy" trolling. On the second thought, it probably won't.

If Apple isn't greedy, the guys running the place should be fired.  They're a profit making company, it's their job to be greedy.  Just like the rest of us... I don't see many people turning down raises or not giving their Bonus Card at the grocery.

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post #19 of 33
9/17/12 at 12:46pm
Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post
Every one of the new iPod nano colors looks sick.

 

Now's that the new-agey way of saying it, like, "Theez eye-pod cullas look sick-nasty!" or are you expressing contempt for the pastels? I think you'd have to see them in person to judge that over a Photoshop render.

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post #20 of 33
9/17/12 at 12:49pm
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Oh, yeah. I RE~ALLY trust a company that just took the Apple adapter and slapped their name on it using PREVIEW. Yeah, I RE~ALLY believe that not only is this a legitimate company but also that they have made actual adapters. Oh, yeah.

Frigging Amazon.

They didn't even center the name that was shopped on the adapter.
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post #21 of 33
9/17/12 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by woofpup View Post

The question is how well these third party adapters will handle analog audio output for things like speaker docks that don't use digital audio. The Apple adapter has the electronics to provide analog audio output which presumably results in high quality, low noise sound. These aftermarket adapters might not do it as well and in some cases, will probably just be pin converters that don't do it at all.

I'm under the impression (from the keynote) that the electronics for converting the signal type happens on the device itself which is how they are able to have so few pins over the previous model. I think what the adapter would need is to then know what kind of signal is being pushed out so it knows which pins to use. Although I guess it could just send it out multiple pins and the unused one do nothing for the connected accessory.

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post #22 of 33
9/17/12 at 1:13pm
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They didn't even center the name that was shopped on the adapter.

 

Shopped is an understatement....look at this blow up with all the artifacts around the name and you can see how it isn't even centered...

 

 

click for larger image....

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post #23 of 33
9/17/12 at 1:18pm
Apple legal department on line 1 in 3...2...1...
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post #24 of 33
9/17/12 at 1:18pm

The ones on eBay look better and cheaper.  There are several sellers with excellent ratings offering these for under $12 with free shipping.  A typical description:

 

 

Lightning to 30-pin Adapter for iPhone 5, Ipod 5, iPod nano 7th generation 

This genric adapter connects these new devices to older iOS devices, including car charger, audio and clock docks, etc.- Apple's created an adapter to accommodate 30-pin connectors. The cost of connecting? Order one from the Apple store for $29 and they will ship in October. Or order from me for half price and have it shipped by the end of September.

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post #25 of 33
9/17/12 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by NormM View Post

The ones on eBay look better and cheaper.  There are several sellers with excellent ratings offering these for under $12 with free shipping.  A typical description:

 

 

Lightning to 30-pin Adapter for iPhone 5, Ipod 5, iPod nano 7th generation 

This genric adapter connects these new devices to older iOS devices, including car charger, audio and clock docks, etc.- Apple's created an adapter to accommodate 30-pin connectors. The cost of connecting? Order one from the Apple store for $29 and they will ship in October. Or order from me for half price and have it shipped by the end of September.

 

Must still be working on the reverse engineering of it....

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post #26 of 33
9/17/12 at 1:29pm

Thanks for the heads up. Just ordered 2.. :)

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post #27 of 33
9/17/12 at 1:33pm
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I agree. They're nearly identical images.

Nah - they got them from Samsung.

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post #28 of 33
9/17/12 at 2:00pm

Just as we all assumed, less than a week after the iPhone announcement, there are already tons of (unproven) knockoffs on eBay for half the price

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=lightning+adapter&_sacat=0

 

$11.50 with free shipping and free returns within 14 days

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post #29 of 33
9/17/12 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by woofpup View Post

The question is how well these third party adapters will handle analog audio output for things like speaker docks that don't use digital audio. The Apple adapter has the electronics to provide analog audio output which presumably results in high quality, low noise sound. These aftermarket adapters might not do it as well and in some cases, will probably just be pin converters that don't do it at all.

It's not just the third-party adaptors - on Apple's website it says its LIghning to 30-pin adaptor will not support "Video Out" or "iPod Out". We won't know what even the Apple adaptor can do until somebody tries it. To me, "iPod Out" means analog audio, so it's possible even the Apple adaptor won't work with current car stereo 30-pin cables, speaker docks, etc. I hope that's not the case, but we won't know for a while. 

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post #30 of 33
9/17/12 at 2:37pm
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It's not just the third-party adaptors - on Apple's website it says its LIghning to 30-pin adaptor will not support "Video Out" or "iPod Out". We won't know what even the Apple adaptor can do until somebody tries it. To me, "iPod Out" means analog audio, so it's possible even the Apple adaptor won't work with current car stereo 30-pin cables, speaker docks, etc. I hope that's not the case, but we won't know for a while. 

I've read that iPod out specifically means the remote control of iTunes that some cars do.
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post #31 of 33
9/17/12 at 4:50pm
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Shopped is an understatement....look at this blow up with all the artifacts around the name and you can see how it isn't even centered...

 

 

click for larger image....

 

LOL, Amazon will end up shipping a box with a dead fish inside to thousands of people before the complaints from their customers alert them to this vendor fraud.

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post #32 of 33
9/17/12 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by elroth View Post

It's not just the third-party adaptors - on Apple's website it says its LIghning to 30-pin adaptor will not support "Video Out" or "iPod Out". We won't know what even the Apple adaptor can do until somebody tries it. To me, "iPod Out" means analog audio, so it's possible even the Apple adaptor won't work with current car stereo 30-pin cables, speaker docks, etc. I hope that's not the case, but we won't know for a while. 

 

Analog audio out is supported, but not video. You're expected to use AirPlay for video.

 

Source:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD823ZM/A/lightning-to-30-pin-adapter?fnode=48#overview

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post #33 of 33
9/17/12 at 5:17pm
STOP THE PRESSES!!!

No need for a Lightning adapter. Apple has reconsidered and dropped Lightning entirely:
http://scoopertino.com/apple-cancels-iphone-5-orders-rethinks-new-connector/
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