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post #81 of 144

The 3D maps are like seeing a painting almost. I like it. 

 

Here's a snapshot of an Apple store in my city that I just took.

 

 

post #82 of 144
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The iphone ver won't install on the ipad?  If it does, video should be just as good on the ipad...

The iPhone version does not use the iPad screen space, cannot run properly in landscape on ipad, etc. It's not optimized for iPad. I use the iPad Youtube app all the time and do not with to downgrade that experience. That's why I am asking.
post #83 of 144

Can someone explain why I have to clear 2.7 GB on my new iPad in order to download the new software which is less than 1 GB?

post #84 of 144
Space to roll-back a failed software upgrade?
post #85 of 144
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Can someone explain why I have to clear 2.7 GB on my new iPad in order to download the new software which is less than 1 GB?

Its compressed so when the update starts, the files will be extracted and altogether it will be around 2.7 GB of space needed.
post #86 of 144
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Its compressed so when the update starts, the files will be extracted and altogether it will be around 2.7 GB of space needed.

 

Okay that makes sense. Thanks!

post #87 of 144

I'm liking it so far.  The upgrade was smooth and easy as they always seem to be.

 

Safari seems to be snappier, though having really got to like the Mercury browser, I'm not sure I'm ready to move back to Safari.


The Maps application I like a great deal.  From the point of view of it being a map, it's much better than Google, with it being clearer and more readable.  I really like that.  I don't like the fact that when you select a transit search it just sends you to a screen that says there are No Matches in the App store.  Obviously I'm interested to see what apps come along to solve that, but as of right now, that is a big step backwards.  What I really like though is the integration with Yelp.  No more crappy Sponsored Links on the map.  While Yelp has some serious weaknesses (due to the number of young people who use it, places that are cheap do disproportionally well), it's a great add.

 

Love that I can send someone a message when I can't take a call.  Just happened in a meeting - it's great!

post #88 of 144
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Originally Posted by Apple 2 View Post

The 3D maps are like seeing a painting almost. I like it. 

Here's a snapshot of an Apple store in my city that I just took.


The detail is definitely impressive.

You can read the brand names on the air conditioning units on the top of buildings!

Just kidding, again.
post #89 of 144
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The 3D maps are like seeing a painting almost. I like it. 

 

Here's a snapshot of an Apple store in my city that I just took.

 

 

 

Yeah but with the wool of the flyover view removed from one's eyes, the maps app reveals itself to be what it really is which is a sucky poorly designed POS (IMO of course). 

 

For me, not only is it slower than Google maps it's really poorly designed.  For my uses it's a complete sh*t-fest.  The entire app is basically slanted towards people in cars.  The turn by turn directions are not only designed with skeuomorphic road signs like you'd see from your (American) car, they are completely ridiculous for walking directions.  "Turn right and go 20 metres" and then "go straight for ten metres" is just silly.  You don't need the same kind of turn by turn for walking as you do for driving.  

 

Also, it took me fifteen minutes to even *find* a way to have the thing give me walking directions instead of car directions.  This is because instead of doing it the old way and showing the car/person/transit button *after* the route is drawn, you now have to pick it *before* you ask for the route directions.  The default is for cars of course, so I'm certain that people will own this thing for many months without ever discovering that it has (poor, ugly), walking directions in it.

 

To get transit directions, it just throws you into the app store where some shyster has put up a three dollar app for "transit directions" that will no doubt rape a few thousand wallets over the next few weeks.  No way I'm going to bite at that, so ... basically no transit directions. 

 

iOS 6 has seemingly buggered up my touch screen also on both my phone and my iPad.  The multitouch gestures are now harder to do, any kind of scrolling or navigation is slower and jerkier (and this after a reboot and removal of about ten Gigs of stuff to free up space).  

 

The clock app has not only lost all my city settings and defaulted back to the very unhelpful and useless default selection, it won't let me input my old cities again because it can't find them!  This is likely yet another failure of the maps application.  I'm not talking remote cities either.  These are big cities in Canada and the UK and iOS 6 can't find them to add to the world clock app.  What a total POS.  

 

I should have realised when I saw they haven't changed the icon for it, that there would be a certain lack of polish on the maps app.  

post #90 of 144
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post
.... a certain lack of polish on the maps app.  

I agree with that. It does look somewhat unpolished.

 

But the navigation is brilliant.

post #91 of 144
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post
The clock app has not only lost all my city settings and defaulted back to the very unhelpful and useless default selection, it won't let me input my old cities again because it can't find them!  This is likely yet another failure of the maps application.  I'm not talking remote cities either.  These are big cities in Canada and the UK and iOS 6 can't find them to add to the world clock app.  What a total POS.  

Weather app same deal. It can no longer find my city in Central America.

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post #92 of 144
To iPad owners who have upgraded: is the youtube app gone?

(and yes, I know there is a iPhone-specific app)
post #93 of 144
Originally Posted by snax007 View Post
To iPad owners who have upgraded: is the youtube app gone?

 

Yes.

 

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post #94 of 144
You have upgraded?
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Originally Posted by snax007 View Post
You have upgraded?

 

Can't (first gen), but the image specifically shows no app.

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post #96 of 144
Geeesh...I was looking for actual confirmation from users who have upgraded and not old promo pictures.
post #97 of 144
Originally Posted by snax007 View Post
Geeesh...I was looking for actual confirmation from users who have upgraded and not old promo pictures.

 

Go the heck to Apple's website RIGHT NOW and look at the pictures. It's in no way "old". You think they're lying to you or something?!

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post #98 of 144

Am I imagining things, or was Safari supposed to have a unified address/search bar like in Mountain Lion?

post #99 of 144
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I agree with that. It does look somewhat unpolished.

 

But the navigation is brilliant.

 

I find it ugly and unhelpful.  

 

The street signs don't look anything like the street signs in my area, (presumably that's what signs look like in California), and I don't need turn by turn walking directions anyway.  I mean it's a map that I'm holding in my hand with a f*cking giant blue line on it telling me where to go.  Why would I need to be told to turn right, turn left etc. 

 

Basically, this app is a complete failure if you aren't driving.  

 

That's great for 95% of USA residents, but in my country it's more like 60/40 drivers/non-drivers.   

post #100 of 144
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Originally Posted by snax007 View Post

Geeesh...I was looking for actual confirmation from users who have upgraded and not old promo pictures.

yes, it's gone, i'm on the ipad 2

post #101 of 144
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

 

I find it ugly and unhelpful.  

 

The street signs don't look anything like the street signs in my area, (presumably that's what signs look like in California), and I don't need turn by turn walking directions anyway.  I mean it's a map that I'm holding in my hand with a f*cking giant blue line on it telling me where to go.  Why would I need to be told to turn right, turn left etc. 

 

Basically, this app is a complete failure if you aren't driving.  

 

That's great for 95% of USA residents, but in my country it's more like 60/40 drivers/non-drivers.   

 

Download Google Maps then. Problem solved.

post #102 of 144
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Originally Posted by snax007 View Post

To iPad owners who have upgraded: is the youtube app gone?
(and yes, I know there is a iPhone-specific app)

 

Yes, app is gone.

 

No, there's no iPad-specific app in the App Store.

 

But there is this thing called youtube.com which works better than the app anyway. Try it.

post #103 of 144
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Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post

 

Download Google Maps then. Problem solved.

 

 

I'm not seeing an actual Google Maps app in the App Store.

 

By the way, I'm *really* not liking the App Store redesign. 

post #104 of 144
Maps is okay, but what's with the clouds? I can't see my house because of a big cloud overhead.

And I wish they didn't remove the YouTube app.
post #105 of 144

I've just done an amusing side by side of Google Maps on my ancient now unsupported iPad 1, and my iPad 3 running Apple maps. I live in the UK, in a town, not a city.

 

I searched for 'pizza'. Google returned around 7-8 results. Apple returned 1.

 

I switched to satellite imagery. Google returned high res, crisp visuals. Apple returned something so blocky it would embarrass a VIC-20. My road was literally less than 10 pixels. It was comically bad, so terrible it's hard to believe anyone could ever release it.

 

I then had a scan around the regular maps, and of course, Google's were packed with detail. Apple's were mostly empty.

 

I even tried the turn by turn to route me to where I work, to find Apple only offered me two routes - one through a toll road (with no option to disable toll roads that I could find), and another on a totally obscure little road which I would never use. It ignored the two giant motor ways I can normally use.  I'll stick to Co-Pilot.

 

And street view is of course, removed too, taking with it what is for me a vital maps feature.

 

Maybe it will get better, who knows, but my advice would be that if you rely on maps, do not 'upgrade'.

post #106 of 144
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Originally Posted by Stourque View Post

Maps is okay, but what's with the clouds? I can't see my house because of a big cloud overhead.
And I wish they didn't remove the YouTube app.

 

Fortunately Google have already released a YouTube app, and it's far superior to Apple's offering. Sadly it's iPhone only though.

post #107 of 144
Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post
Fortunately Google have already released a YouTube app, and it's far superior to Apple's offering. Sadly it's iPhone only though.

 

So ads and iPhone only. In no way is that "superior", much less "far".

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post #108 of 144
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

 

 

I'm not seeing an actual Google Maps app in the App Store.

 

By the way, I'm *really* not liking the App Store redesign. 

Hmm, I thought they released it? Maybe that was YouTube.

 

I don't see any missing functionality, though, except for transit directions. You don't need to use the turn by turn directions, you can still use list view.

post #109 of 144
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So ads and iPhone only. In no way is that "superior", much less "far".

 

Why not just use the youtube.com website on the iPad? I use it on the iPhone more than the app. The videos are higher quality.

post #110 of 144
Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post
Why not just use the youtube.com website on the iPad? I use it on the iPhone more than the app. The videos are higher quality.

 

Exactly. Don't need a dedicated app, and without Flash there won't be pre- or mid-video ads.

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post #111 of 144
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Hmm, I thought they released it? Maybe that was YouTube.

 

I don't see any missing functionality, though, except for transit directions. You don't need to use the turn by turn directions, you can still use list view.

 

Transit directions are missing. I don't use them much, but they're a big deal.  And frankly, I miss Street View already. 3D flyover is great but in my opinion not good enough to replace Street View. And 3D functionality is limited to certain areas. There's also less information on maps, sometimes noticeably. 

 

Everything does load quickly, though and the map renderings look good. They're very attractive. I actually find the turn-by-turn signs useful for walking directions. 

 

Other than that - which is good but just not enough - this Map app feels like a step backward. It's clear that Apple does have a roadmap (puns!) for this and that it will be developed, but at this point it just isn't ready. 

 

It was released too early. If we had nothing else with which to compare it, I'd say fine. But the problem is that users had grown accustomed to a mature, highly functional Google Maps app. That was taken away and replaced by what feels like a beta app, something that's more like where Google Maps *was* a couple of years ago. 


Edited by Quadra 610 - 9/19/12 at 3:42pm
post #112 of 144
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Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post

Yes, app is gone.

No, there's no iPad-specific app in the App Store.

But there is this thing called youtube.com which works better than the app anyway. Try it.

I have and it blows compared to the app.

Thanks for the update though, I'll just wait for Google to release the iPad app.
post #113 of 144

WiFi CONNECTION ISSUE

 

Detailed here:

 

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1446596

 

I'm not able to connect to my WiFi network, either with iPad 2 or iPhone 4, both running iOS 6.

 

It connects but then drops it, and then loads up an Apple.com login page. 

 

My Mac running Mountain Lion, however, connects just fine. 

post #114 of 144

I have the same problem

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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Transit directions are missing. I don't use them much, but they're a big deal.  And frankly, I miss Street View already. 3D flyover is great but in my opinion not good enough to replace Street View. And 3D functionality is limited to certain areas. There's also less information on maps, sometimes noticeably. 

Everything does load quickly, though and the map renderings look good. They're very attractive. I actually find the turn-by-turn signs useful for walking directions. 

Other than that - which is good but just not enough - this Map app feels like a step backward. It's clear that Apple does have a roadmap (puns!) for this and that it will be developed, but at this point it just isn't ready. 

It was released too early. If we had nothing else with which to compare it, I'd say fine. But the problem is that users had grown accustomed to a mature, highly functional Google Maps app. That was taken away and replaced by what feels like a beta app, something that's more like where Google Maps *was* a couple of years ago. 

For my own use, I disagree with your assessment. I have had Google Maps misdirect me one too many times for me to feel that Google Maps was some polished offering. Street View is a cool novelty, but I rarely used it. I suspect the same with Flyover.

I don't really take public transportation, but I can see how that would be an issue for some people.

As it stands though, the turn-by-turn navigation and the speed enhancements make for a much better app, and Siri-integration is awesome. Just now I did a POI search and clicked the little car icon next to the red pin and a route instantly is drawn, with turn by turn ready to start. Much, much easier.
post #116 of 144
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Originally Posted by Spungin View Post

I have the same problem

 

It's a pretty brutal bug. This is basic stuff.

 

it isn't even that the connection is flaky, but that it's dropped *immediately*.

post #117 of 144
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For my own use, I disagree with your assessment. I have had Google Maps misdirect me one too many times for me to feel that Google Maps was some polished offering. Street View is a cool novelty, but I rarely used it. I suspect the same with Flyover.
I don't really take public transportation, but I can see how that would be an issue for some people.
As it stands though, the turn-by-turn navigation and the speed enhancements make for a much better app, and Siri-integration is awesome. Just now I did a POI search and clicked the little car icon next to the red pin and a route instantly is drawn, with turn by turn ready to start. Much, much easier.

 

I'll agree that the turn-by-turn functionality is a big deal. I dunno . . . maybe I'll warm up to it. 

 

I did use Street View, though, and on a number of occasions it served me well. I suppose it's a personal preference.   *shrugs*

post #118 of 144
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WiFi CONNECTION ISSUE

 

Detailed here:

 

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1446596

 

I'm not able to connect to my WiFi network, either with iPad 2 or iPhone 4, both running iOS 6.

 

It connects but then drops it, and then loads up an Apple.com login page. 

 

My Mac running Mountain Lion, however, connects just fine. 

 

 

POSSIBLE FIX (WORKED FOR ME):

 

 

macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
 
This fixed it for me

Go To:

Settings>Wi-Fi>("Your Network")> [the blue circle arrow icon]

Scroll to bottom of screen and set HTTP Proxy to Auto

.. hope that helps
post #119 of 144
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

I've just done an amusing side by side of Google Maps on my ancient now unsupported iPad 1, and my iPad 3 running Apple maps. I live in the UK, in a town, not a city.

 

I searched for 'pizza'. Google returned around 7-8 results. Apple returned 1.

 

I switched to satellite imagery. Google returned high res, crisp visuals. Apple returned something so blocky it would embarrass a VIC-20. My road was literally less than 10 pixels. It was comically bad, so terrible it's hard to believe anyone could ever release it.

 

I then had a scan around the regular maps, and of course, Google's were packed with detail. Apple's were mostly empty.

 

I even tried the turn by turn to route me to where I work, to find Apple only offered me two routes - one through a toll road (with no option to disable toll roads that I could find), and another on a totally obscure little road which I would never use. It ignored the two giant motor ways I can normally use.  I'll stick to Co-Pilot.

 

And street view is of course, removed too, taking with it what is for me a vital maps feature.

 

Maybe it will get better, who knows, but my advice would be that if you rely on maps, do not 'upgrade'.

 

So how long have you been working at this place if you still need GPS to guide you there?

 

I just jump in my car and drive to work.

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post #120 of 144
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Originally Posted by Stourque View Post

Maps is okay, but what's with the clouds? I can't see my house because of a big cloud overhead.
And I wish they didn't remove the YouTube app.


I'm with you. Large parts of my city are covered by clouds as well. Can't see my house at all. I was prepared for the loss of street view, but I had no idea that the satellite imagery would be so crappy.

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