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post #121 of 143
Samsung,

You keep trying. You can't say you're awesome while being lame.

Yes the S3 screen is bigger. Lots of people don't want a screen/phone that big.

Lots of people don't want quirky interfaces that try to copy Apple's.

No one waits in line for the S3. There's plenty of reasons.

Apple's design is cleaner than yours. Lots of people like good design.

Of course Apple isn't perfect, but maybe if you tried to do your own thing rather than follow Apple, you wouldn't end up paying a billion dollars for it.

Quit pointing fingers and start thinking for yourself. You'll be more original and save money in the long run.

Sincerely,
A non-customer
post #122 of 143
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Dear mother of frick. It's basically a list of all the trolls' arguments.That proves one of two things (and maybe both):

 

1. Samsung is paying more trolls than they've been discovered to have paid.

2. Trolls actually believe the crap they spew.

 

Maybe Samsung is just copying the trolls.

 

But, yes, I've never seen such a transparent astroturfing campaign, of such poor quality.

post #123 of 143
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Originally Posted by mrrodriguez View Post


I don't know that their attacking the people more the Apple mentality. The average Apple user can't give reasons why the new iPhone is better, they just buy it.

 

Yes, the best phone is like pornography, they can't tell you exactly what it is, but they know it when they see it.

post #124 of 143
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Originally Posted by muffinman View Post

Quote by yojimbo007 - "Wonder why apple does not tash samsung in their adds.. Simple. They have class and they dont need to trash talk someone else to sell their product."
I take it you've never watched the "I'm a Mac" campaign

There's a big difference.

In the "I'm a Mac" ads, Apple is comparing PRODUCTS and pointing out why their product is superior.

In Samsung's ads, Samsung is making fun of the USERS.

In doing so, Gruber is right. Samsung has basically admitted that they don't have any significant hope of converting iPhone users to Samsung because their products are not compelling enough, so they're feeding on the Apple haters out there.

Furthermore, in Apple's case, they were a tiny player in the market who many people would not even consider, so comparing themselves to the market leader makes sense. In Samsung's case, they sell more phones than Apple, so the situation is entirely different. This series of anti-Apple ads fits in with the Samsung documents produced during the CA trial. Samsung is fixated on Apple. The seem to be incapable of doing anything without considering what Apple would do or making Apple a part of their strategy. It's as if every employee of the company were given a wrist band which said "WWAD". Unfortunately, they don't understand Apple or how Apple succeeds, so their actions produce lame, inferior copies of Apple products rather than doing what Apple would actually do (innovating and producing something unique with a focus on the consumer). Even this ad is a lame copy showing that they don't get it (see above).
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post #125 of 143
Let me qualify by saying I use an iPhone and Galaxy Note equally.

If one cannot see the hilarity of this ad, they're truly an Apple fanboy, and Vice versa, if one thinks that Apple users are pathetic, you're just a fandroid.

The headphone jack is on the bottom *mind blown*

Each of these phones are great in their own respect and each of these phones have serious shortcomings. I for one will never be an apologist for either since I can look at both and say the lack of 'x' sucks but this inclusion of 'y' is awesome... Not "well Apple knows best and that why they didn't add function X".
post #126 of 143
I almost switched myself. But why make fun of people who might buy your other products? They've left such a bad taste in my mouth that I won't even look at a Samsung TV or whatever.
post #127 of 143
Samsung is taking the low road... Their ads are like political ads! Not what I can do for you, but how bad can I knock the other guy!
Negative advertising is such a turn off. I guess the next time I'm in the market for a container ship, I'll skip Samsung.
post #128 of 143
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Originally Posted by krreagan View Post

Samsung is taking the low road... Their ads are like political ads! Not what I can do for you, but how bad can I knock the other guy!
Negative advertising is such a turn off. I guess the next time I'm in the market for a container ship, I'll skip Samsung.

The thing political ads work because people are by and large ignorant about the finer details of politics. This is probably even more so with the finer points of technology.

A couple examples are the Samsung phone having an even larger display as if that is technology Samsung has mastered and not simply a marketing technique used because they couldn't sell against Apple on equal ground and that they can't make a phone as compact as Apple and still have equatable performance. It ignores that these phones are handy pretty bad as being pocketable, one-handed devices.

Same goes for their LTE claims. Sure, Samsung phone had LTE before the iPhone, but only in very large, heavy phones because the chips were large and the batteries had to be larger and yet they still have poor battery life. I didn't expect Apple to have the first LTE phone with 3G data usage times equal to LTE but I expected them to only bring out LTE when it was feasible, as in making the user experience better for it.

Samsung et al. only have buzzwords to market. Samsung is very good at it when you consider their actual competition — everyone but Apple — but it's still a rate fiddle compared to Apple. This is where the buyer should beware because their ads aren't accurate but they aren't lying. This is a case of Samsung telling the truth, but not the whole truth... but that's certainly allowed.

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post #129 of 143
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

First rule of advertising. If you have to mention the other guys, you fail.
Second rule, if you have to bash the other guys, you fail

 

Sounds like the presidential campaign going on now.  According to your rules, both our presidential candidates are failures...  Much prayer needed for this nation.

post #130 of 143

I feel the ad was not targeting someone who's waiting in line.  Those who wait in line will not buy a GSIII because of the ad.  

The ad is more targeted toward people who are thinking about getting a smartphone.  By now everyone knows about iphone and Samsung wants to use this ad to make people who are getting a smarphone to check out GSIII as another option.  iphone doesn't need something like this because it sells itself.  Even the carriers are not pushing for iphone because it's less profitable than android phone.

post #131 of 143
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Originally Posted by icoco3 View Post

If Samsung is so great, why is ATT offering $100 instant rebates on the SIII's and many other Samsung phones??  Let Samsung stand toe-to-toe and see what people choose.  They released the SIII at a time when people started waiting for the next iphone before upgrading thus whatever good sales they had.

Because ATT can still make more on GSIII accounts than iphone accounts even after the $100 rebate for GSIII.  ATT is going for profit, it doesn't care about GSIII or iphone.  It'll sell the ones which give the most profit.  

post #132 of 143
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Originally Posted by ipen View Post

I feel the ad was not targeting someone who's waiting in line.  Those who wait in line will not buy a GSIII because of the ad.  

The ad is more targeted toward people who are thinking about getting a smartphone.  By now everyone knows about iphone and Samsung wants to use this ad to make people who are getting a smarphone to check out GSIII as another option.  iphone doesn't need something like this because it sells itself.  Even the carriers are not pushing for iphone because it's less profitable than android phone.

 

I think you're right and if you watch carefully you can see who this ad is targeting - and its the young (guy was saving a place in line for his folks) male perspective Android users and it does this by reinforcing the herd Android view of iPhone users as old, out of touch, maybe not so smart and definately not cool (remember how important it is to not appear uncool when you're in those tween and young teen years...you need to get a Samsung the ad says)...They're not after iPhone users at all in these ads (or only very marginally).

 

I have to say, I hadn't seen any of the previous Samsung ads and Apple user that I am, I was laughing throughout most of the ad...Whoever put it together for them did a great job imposing  a Android vs iPhone stamp on the old Apple Mac ads of years ago (before Mac vs PC, but comparing Macs to PC's), they did it very well with the pacing, the music, the lost look of the "uncool" users, I'm still chuckling thinking about it.  It was funny.  Really, an excellent copy of those old ads, which in the end, considering the company buying the ads, is totally appropriate (Samsung copying Apple).  :-)


Edited by Sasparilla - 10/15/12 at 7:51pm
post #133 of 143
Those fanatics in a lines know exactly what they want, this a part of their apple-fan-culture and this dumb ad just is an insult to a people, tasteless amateur effort to look stupid. This reminds me car salesmen. When I called and asked when model I want will be released he tried to sell whatever was in a stock. He called few times later until I raged: why don't you f***g understand ( copyright Christopher Bale) I want THIS model.
post #134 of 143
Originally Posted by ipen View Post
Because ATT can still make more on GSIII accounts than iphone accounts even after the $100 rebate for GSIII.  ATT is going for profit, it doesn't care about GSIII or iphone.  It'll sell the ones which give the most profit.  

 

Then why is the price for high-end Android phones the same as the iPhone? Sounds like they make less money.

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post #135 of 143
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Then why is the price for high-end Android phones the same as the iPhone? Sounds like they make less money.

Because the subsidy is less, so they make more on equally priced phones.
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post #136 of 143
Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post
Because the subsidy is less, so they make more on equally priced phones.

 

… If the sale price for an off-contract one is the same, and the sale price for an on-contract one is the same… ???

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post #137 of 143
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

Then why is the price for high-end Android phones the same as the iPhone? Sounds like they make less money.

 

Well its two things.  One, the Android phones are often cheaper in price (for reasons of course) - you can buy a top of the line Samsung Galaxy S 3 unlocked at AT&T for $549 and other Android phones are often less than that.  The lowest end iPhone 5 will be $649.

 

So on contract you pay the same price, because Apple is forcing the Carriers to eat that extra $100 - and that is why the Mobile Carriers try to steer folks to anything but an iPhone...that iPhone is $100 in profits (cream) right off the top before the customer walks out the door.

 

At some point Apple probably won't be able to command this penalty (that'll be ugly for sure), but for now, the carriers just try to steer folks to other phones if they can.


Edited by Sasparilla - 9/20/12 at 7:58pm
post #138 of 143
@yojimbo007

First off, not to split hairs or anything, but "lightyears" is actually a measure of distance. (The distance light is able to travel over the course of a year, which is 9.4605284 × 10^15 meters) It seems you were using it as a measure of time, being that for one phone to be ahead of another in terms of distance would not have any implications on the quality, design, or funtionality of the hardware or software involved. Don't worry, it's quite a common mistake.

Secondly, I do try to remain impartial, but I agree this commercial is in poor taste, and furthermore, is quite antagonistic. I am neither an Apple fanboy, nor anti-Apple. I love great technology in any form it may take, regardless of brand. However, when reading the following:

"Wonder why apple does not tash samsung in their adds.. Simple. They have class and they dont need to trash talk someone else to sell their product."

I can only respond with the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5z0Ia5jDt4

Am I the only one who remembers these?
post #139 of 143
Originally Posted by PhoneGenius64 View Post
I can only respond with the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5z0Ia5jDt4
Am I the only one who remembers these?

 

You're certainly not the only one who erroneously thinks they have anything whatsoever to do with what Samsung is doing, that's for sure.


Samsung mocks the customer. Apple mocks the competitor.

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post #140 of 143
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

Then why is the price for high-end Android phones the same as the iPhone? Sounds like they make less money.

 

Because the OEMs accept lower margins than Apple.  For instance, if Apple's cost on an iPhone 5 is 200 dollars, and HTC's cost on a One X is 250, Apple will sell it to the Carrier for 650, while HTC will sell it to the carrier for 450.  Both will retail for 800, but the carrier is making alot more on the HTC.

post #141 of 143
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Originally Posted by Don108 View Post

And yet, NOBODY waits in line for Samsung phones.


They don't have to. The phone is available everywhere and those that wanted it already are using it.

post #142 of 143
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Originally Posted by ezduzit View Post

thank you samsung!

 

a quicklook at apple sales figures just proves the adage:

 

every knock is a boost,  and apple accepts the advertising.


Analysts estimate about 6 million Galaxy S III units sold in first few weeks, putting it on track to reach 20 million by the end of Q3.

post #143 of 143
Originally Posted by end user View Post
They don't have to. The phone is available everywhere and those that wanted it already are using it.

 

If that is the case, they'll never sell another one. Good for them for creating a product no one else wants.

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