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The launch of iOS 6 with an all-new new mapping application has caused frustration for iPhone and iPad users who feel that Apple's in-house solution is not up to par with Google.

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With the launch of iOS 6 on Wednesday, the public has had their first opportunity to test out Apple's new Maps application for iPhone and iPad. The new software is a change from previous versions of iOS, which relied on Google's mapping data.

The new Maps in iOS 6 have been highlighted by numerous reviewers, including Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal, as one of the few negatives in the new operating system update. Similarly, users have said they find Apple's mapping solution to be less reliable and functional than the previous collaboration with Google.

A story published Thursday in the Irish Times notes that Apple's Maps for iOS 6 have incorrectly placed a new airfield in Dublin. That prompted Minister for Justice Alan Shatter to write a tongue-in-cheek letter to Apple.

"I know on occasion mistakes can be made and I am surprised to discover that Airfield, which is the centre of my constituency in Dundrum, has, in Apple's new operating system iOS 6 maps application, been designated with the image of an aircraft," Shatter said.

Another story Thursday from NorthScotNews in Scotland declared that Apple's new Maps in iOS 6 have sent the highlands "back to the dark ages." That's because satellite imagery for areas such as Inverness, Thurso, Tain, Nairn, and Ullapool all offer only black-and-white satellite imagery.

Problems for iOS 6 Maps also exist in the U.S. One AppleInsider reader noted that a search for "Columbia SC" returns the city of Santiago De Cali in the nation of Colombia in South America.

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Another story published by the BBC on Thursday also declared that Maps in iOS 6 has "provoked anger from users." In one error, the new application has renamed the town of Hagley in the U.K. as Dudley, which is a separate city actually located more than seven miles away.

Users also reported that towns such as Stratford-upon-Avon and Solihull are missing, and a search for Manchester United Football Club directs users to Sale United Football Club, a community team for ages five and up.

In moving away from Google, Apple has also ditched the popular Street View feature, which provides ground-level images of cities captured from vehicles that Google has driven all over the world. Apple's alternative is Flyover, a 360-degree view that renders topographical terrain and buildings in some major cities three dimensions.

With iOS 6, Apple has further distanced itself from Google by removing not only Google Maps, but also the built-in YouTube application that was found in all previous versions of iOS. Google launched a standalone YouTube application in the iOS App Store earlier this month to address the removal of YouTube in iOS 6.

There has been speculation that Google could also release a Google Maps application in the App Store to compete with Apple's own built-in Maps solution. But so far, the search company has yet to indicate that it will do so.

"We believe Google Maps are the most comprehensive, accurate and easy-to-use maps in the world," the company said in a statement to Search Engine Land this week. "Our goal is to make Google Maps available to everyone who wants to use it, regardless of device, browser, or operating system."
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Ouch.  Glad I decided to hold off on upgrading.  Hopefully they can get it up to snuff soon!  Was looking forward to the built-in navigation...

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In my area it's ok, but in general it feels like a step backward. The turn-by-turn features are very welcome, but somehow I get the feeling that Apple released this too early. 

 

Who knows, I might warm up to it.   *shrugs*

 

 

 


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"We believe Google Maps are the most comprehensive, accurate and easy-to-use maps in the world," the company said in a statement to Search Engine Land this week. "Our goal is to make Google Maps available to everyone who wants to use it, regardless of device, browser, or operating system."

 

Something I wouldn't mind seeing. 

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Compare my experience with iMaps to the same place in time and appearance of Google Maps on the App Store.

Google Maps? Not only was my home in the wrong place, half the length of the road I live on was named as being a nearby county road - even though the county road was correctly located and named. Notified Google by email. Time to correction? 3 weeks.

iMap? Only thing wrong was it located me as communicating from my next door neighbor's lot - a difference of 240'. Used the built-in correction notifier. It's right on the button, this morning.
post #5 of 472
The new Maps App is pathetic. The story even fails to mention transit instructions! I think it's pathetic that the app suggest I download a transit app for transit directions. REALLY?!?
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the interface for the new Maps app is great and flyover, where it is available, is nice eye candy. The issue in the app is the old adage: "garbage in, garbage out." The cartography is terrible compared to Google and Bing. I can't see streets due to the choice of light streets on a light background. Traffic is non-existent in many cities, or you see a few areas where crowd-sourced data exists.

If this was the maps we started with in 2007, no problem. However,we have had 5 years of using arguably the best dataset available in the world. And now, we are back 5-6 years in this department. Therefore, the user experience mantra has really been thrown out here.

Yes I understand Google didn't want to give turn-by-turn etc so Apple had to do something on their own. I don't miss Steetview or Transit directions much, but I miss the quality of the standard maps, period.
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Is anyone really surprised Apple maps 1.0 is not equal to Google Maps 6.0?

 

Give it a few months.. maybe even a year.  With user feedback and resources focused on the Apple maps.. they will eventually catch up.  I have no doubt a company with a $100 Billion in the bank.. can make a great map app.

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Well, during the beta phase I was using it in Mumbai/India, Chiang Mai and Koh Samui/Thailand and Jakarta/Indonesia. The Apple maps are 100% useless in all these places, actually they are worse than the apps using OpenStreetMap data. Yes, they are vectorized and scale quickly, but all POIs are missing, entire blocks of cities are missing (e.g. I live on a densely populated area of Mumbai, according to Apple I live on some oversized golf course and there are no streets at all), city districts are not given in maps, some streets show only up in local language and my hotel room in Jakarta was in the middle of the ocean, which I failed to realize...

Can't say if the US material is any better (can't be worse for sure), but this nonsense should have never been released. I can live without a pedestrian mode and public transportation info, but maps that do not contain much more than terrain and hieroglyphs for a 18 million people city, is not ready for prime time.

Buying a Navigon mapping app is now a mandatory step if you want decent maps.
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This story wasn't written by DED. What a surprise.
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If this was the maps we started with in 2007, no problem. However,we have had 5 years of using arguably the best dataset available in the world. And now, we are back 5-6 years in this department. Therefore, the user experience mantra has really been thrown out here.
 

 

I'll have to agree with this. 

 

Yes, I can *see* some of the great directions in which iOS Maps will go, but I feel as if we're forced to wait for something that we already had.

 

The problem is, that iOS users came to rely on a particular Google App on iOS.    ;)

And I don't think Apple really appreciated the degree to which this was a reality. 

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The maps app is an insult here in Dubai. We cannot even use the to-from route feature. It just gives us an "route not available" and it cannot find many places. It is absolutely terrible and Apple should be ashamed by this piece of crap. Yeah yeah, I know it will improve and that it is cloud sourced and all that but it doesn't help us right now.
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Ouch.  Glad I decided to hold off on upgrading.  Hopefully they can get it up to snuff soon!  Was looking forward to the built-in navigation...

Built-in navigation should be fine, it just won't take you to the correct location...
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Is anyone really surprised Apple maps 1.0 is not equal to Google Maps 6.0?

Give it a few months.. maybe even a year.  With user feedback and resources focused on the Apple maps.. they will eventually catch up.  I have no doubt a company with a $100 Billion in the bank.. can make a great map app.

A company with $100bil in the bank should be able to do a better job than this. This isn't a simple bug, this is inaccurate map data coupled with a borked search algorithm.
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It's been working well for me in Phoenix, AZ, but that's a major US metropolitan area.  I can see it's quality degrading quicking after you leave big urban areas.

 

I  noticed the traffic updates weren't working as of rush hour yesterday.

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Is anyone really surprised Apple maps 1.0 is not equal to Google Maps 6.0?

 

Give it a few months.. maybe even a year.  With user feedback and resources focused on the Apple maps.. they will eventually catch up.  I have no doubt a company with a $100 Billion in the bank.. can make a great map app.

 

But they've *already* had all that time in development. 

 

Why are we being asked to wait for something we already had?

 

Apple could have at least made their Map app as an App Store offering, with a *Beta* disclaimer somewhere, until it was ready. OR NOT RELEASE IT AT ALL UNTIL IT WAS PERFECT.

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Is anyone really surprised Apple maps 1.0 is not equal to Google Maps 6.0?

 

Give it a few months.. maybe even a year.  With user feedback and resources focused on the Apple maps.. they will eventually catch up.  I have no doubt a company with a $100 Billion in the bank.. can make a great map app.

 

Agreed.  Most of the complaints in the article are data problems that can be, and almost certainly will be, promptly fixed.  Instead of wringing their hands and complaining about errors, people should be reporting them so they can be fixed.  For years my street appeared on google maps and others are a through street instead of a cul-de-sac.  That was an inconvenience as people were directed to turn right at a non-existent intersection.  I reported it and, about a year later, it was fixed.  We'll have to wait and see to find out how responsive the Apple maps team is.

 

These data problems could not all be caught prior to launch.  What would they do, hire 1,000,000 interns to confirm every city, street, and landmark in the world?

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If you like Google Maps better, you can always use it by hitting maps.google.com in Safari. And you can even make it a shortcut icon to the home screen.

So. Why anger? Use your brain, not mouth.
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Not ready for prime time. The overview of my house in Rancho Mirage looks like it was shot through a cloud, and the images are extremely grainy. On google maps I could identify the cracks in the street. Another complaint is when trying to map an address in Carmel, California from my address book (the address there don't use street numbers but rather intersections), it cannot be found; never had that issue with Google Maps
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For their first trip into the maps department, I think it's a great start. They'll catch up to Google and soon enough Google will have their own app if you choose to use that instead.
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Is anyone really surprised Apple maps 1.0 is not equal to Google Maps 6.0?

 

Give it a few months.. maybe even a year.  With user feedback and resources focused on the Apple maps.. they will eventually catch up.  I have no doubt a company with a $100 Billion in the bank.. can make a great map app.

 

not at all. But folks aren't thinking about that. They expect Apple Maps 1.0 to be equal to Google Maps 7.0. If they even release that it's a new database. it's like the folks that expected Siri to be perfect for every voice not understanding that voice systems need training and that means access to millions of different voices (meaning the users). 

 

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Ouch.  Glad I decided to hold off on upgrading.  Hopefully they can get it up to snuff soon!  Was looking forward to the built-in navigation...

 

You raise any interesting question. Could some of this be due to the high traffic of 'everyone' updating to iOS 6 yesterday and then hitting the Maps servers in rapid and constant use. We saw app store connections go down, especially in Passbook. We saw the whole wifi verification page crashing and so on due to high traffic. Could some of the errors especially with searching have been at least partially due to overloading the system. 

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post #20 of 472

maps.google.com in Safari. Added shortcut to homescreen. Problem temporarily solved for now. New maps, iMaps in colloquial, isn't unusable, but it's certainly a step backwards. Flyover isn't great either; 1/3 of downtown Philadelphia? Really? It just feels very un-Apple.

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Apple could have at least made their Map app as an App Store offering, with a *Beta* disclaimer somewhere, until it was ready. OR NOT RELEASE IT AT ALL UNTIL IT WAS PERFECT.

 

The problems being reported are data problems not software problems.  The only way data problems get "perfected" is through real-life scrutiny, which is happening now post-launch.

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I wantd to like this but playing with it yesterday im not so sure. No, actually I am sure.. it sucks. I know Apple probably has a huge team working on this and big plans for it in the future, but right now it feels like a .99 cent app. The flyover is OK but kind of useless as a functionality. With the sketchy and confused reviews of Passbook (not only because of Apple), I wonder if this could be the biggest blunder update yet. Im sure  the competition is ready to jump all over this in a bunch of new 'exciting' ad's.

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Not ready for prime time. The overview of my house in Rancho Mirage looks like it was shot through a cloud, and the images are extremely grainy. On google maps I could identify the cracks in the street. Another complaint is when trying to map an address in Carmel, California from my address book (the address there don't use street numbers but rather intersections), it cannot be found; never had that issue wi

THe privacy nuts would likely say that grainy due to having blurred out people etc is better than Google not giving a damn and showing you walking around inside your house. 

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The map app is very good for a 1.0 release. I'm impressed with it. It's not perfectly reliable yet, but it promises to be a gamechanger for iOS users and the entire industry. I can't wait to see where Apple takes us with this. I'm happy to be on the journey with them from the start.

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I like the concept, but I found several bugs during my first 20-minute trip. Mostly, many streets were referred to by outdated or lesser-know names. In a couple of cases, the street name was completely wrong on roads that haven't changed names or routes since the 1950s. Once, it instructed me on multiple occasions to "turn left on [random street name]" when this wasn't part of the route nor were those streets anywhere close. So, it's definitely got a ways to go.

post #27 of 472
Yeah Im not digging the new maps app. But Im willing to wait for them to update/fix the issues with it. Fly over is pretty cool. My biggest heartache is the new Dial Pad UI.
I hate that new look with the white back ground...then you dial a number and the interface goes back to the original look.... WTF is going on here.

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post #28 of 472
Yeah, not liking the new maps, I now live on a street that no longer exists and a mall that was torn down a couple of years ago is back.
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If you have an iPhone 4 or earlier, it's a big step back. I used to use Street View a lot to get a general idea of the layout of my destination. I no longer have that. What's more, I don't have 3D view since I'm on an older phone. Fortunately, I'll have my new phone tomorrow, but not everybody is in the same boat.

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I really don't know what people truly expected.  Did you honestly expect a 1.0 product to match something or even come close to a system that's been going on for several years?  Yes it sucks now, but it's going to take years to catch up to Google.  Fortunately I live in Houston and the maps works great for me.  I also have a great sense of direction, so that helps too. 

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@Daekwan;
I wholeheartedly agree. Apple is known for updating their apps a little more ánd better than Google has proven to be in the years that the iPhone existed… In the 5 years Google Maps came preinstalled on the iPhone, has it ever been updated with some serious effort?

Apple has indeed released their own Map.app, because their 5-year aggreement with Google has ended and neither party wants to renew it due to differences in opinion (amongst other things)… which is fine in my opinion.

But Apple júst released their first Map.app, so give it a little time. Over the years they updated/improved most of their apps tremendously, so I'm sure that with the upcoming updates they'll improve it. At the very least they'll improve it a heck of a lot more often than Google ever has as far as functionality goes, and the map-data will undoubtedly get better as well.
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no problems for me so far (i commute between brooklyn and central nj) but i don't appreciate the extra steps to create a simple to/from route. and so far the traffic alerts i have experienced are all accurate. based on the story and the comments, it sounds like less attention has been paid to countries outside the u.s. turn by turn is also done well but it's too early to really say. give it a few weeks for more reviews before piling on.

 

the only downside to these built-in apps like passbook and maps is that there's no reviews. apple has responded well and quickly to negative reviews in the app store. what is the best way to voice discontent with their latest release in this case?

post #33 of 472
Pretty terrible. Lists a restaurant as being in my neighborhood that is actually 500 miles away. Tells me to take an illegal left turn at the end of my street onto a main road.

The directions also stink (Boston). Google gave much better suggestions.

The lack of decent traffic data also stinks. Google is fantastic in this regard, iMaps is spotty as can be.

Basically a huge downgrade.
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maps.google.com in Safari. Added shortcut to homescreen. Problem temporarily solved for now. New maps, iMaps in colloquial, isn't unusable, but it's certainly a step backwards. Flyover isn't great either; 1/3 of downtown Philadelphia? Really? It just feels very un-Apple.

Street View does not work on their web version. I miss that the most.

post #35 of 472
I'll second the mention that maps.google.com works on iOS pretty well. Seems to have all the options the old maps app has, including bike and transit.
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The presentation is secondary to information in this case, sure it looks fantastic but it's next to useless. I'd imagine it's better in the US than anywhere else in the world.
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I really don't know what people truly expected.  Did you honestly expect a 1.0 product to match something or even come close to a system that's been going on for several years?  Yes it sucks now, but it's going to take years to catch up to Google.  Fortunately I live in Houston and the maps works great for me.  I also have a great sense of direction, so that helps too. 

 

So we the customers have to wait "years" for Apple to catch up?  Stinks, I tell you.  Stinks.

 

I really hope Google releases a stand-alone app.

 

Plus, Apple is selling this on their website as an upgrade, not as a work-in-progress.  So should I therefore expect a downgrade instead?  Or should I expect Apple to be lying?

 

Stinks.

post #38 of 472
I love the new Maps app! Accuracy seems to be just fine in the Seattle/Redmond area where I live. The app is faster and much smoother than Google Maps. I also love how it displays turn by turn directions, remembers previous searches (no way!) and of course, how the vector based graphics don't shrink labels like the old Google app did. Huge improvement!
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I don't know, I could give you a laundry list of crappy BS I get from google maps. Just last weekend I was looking for a Rooms To Go store, I tried "Rooms to go" and it recommendend "RoomsToGo" - ok, that's probably more accurate. Yeah, it said no results... I live in DFW and there are at least 5 RoomsToGo stores in the metroplex. There's also a restaurant that's been open for more than a year called "Mi Dia from scratch" - Google Maps refuses to find it at all so I just tried "Mi Dia" - it took me to California... I don't doubt that iMaps has issues but I think people have had 6 years to deal with Google's issues and they just deal with it and accept that's what happens when you try to map the world...
post #40 of 472

at first glance, the Maps app looks way better than Google... however playing with it showed its weakness... when i tried searching for a place, it did not return any results... most of the POIs are also missing and some misplaced... being outside of US and in Asia, this Map app will not really work for most of us... though i'm not that dependent with the Maps app even during Google times, i would usually use it often as sometimes my the iOS Garmin app does not recognize some POIs as well... so now, if Garmin fails, i bet this Map will do as well.. and i'll just wander around.. :D

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