Apple's new Maps in iOS 6 draw ire from users around the world - Page 3

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Originally Posted by tylersdad 

Street View does not work on their web version. I miss that the most.

Indeed.  People forget how borked Googles maps are on the web.  No streetview, impossibly hard to use UI.  Absolute shite IMO even on a desktop computer.  

Using it on a mobile device by adding a shortcut to the home screen is far from "problem solved."  

People also forget that the mobile Maps app on iOS is actually an Apple app.  That's why it was always so much better than Google maps on the web.  Google hasn't actually shown us yet that it's capable of designing a good maps app for a mobile device.

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Originally Posted by ghostface147 

I really don't know what people truly expected.  Did you honestly expect a 1.0 product to match something or even come close to a system that's been going on for several years?  Yes it sucks now, but it's going to take years to catch up to Google.  Fortunately I live in Houston and the maps works great for me.  I also have a great sense of direction, so that helps too. 

They truly expected an upgrade not a downgrade. 

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Originally Posted by flabber 

@Daekwan;
I wholeheartedly agree. Apple is known for updating their apps a little more ánd better than Google has proven to be in the years that the iPhone existed… In the 5 years Google Maps came preinstalled on the iPhone, has it ever been updated with some serious effort?

This *is* the serious effort!

The Maps app has always been written by Apple... previously Google provided the data. BTW when Street View was added it was a worthwhile upgrade, due mainly to Google. The biggest thing it lacked for me was landscape mode.

Imagine how good the new App would be if it had Google's POI database and imagery... 

I've been satisfied with the new Maps but Apple is seriously lacking on waypoints. I was in Chicago the other day and typed in Garret's popcorn and 1 thing popped up on my iPad, which had iOS 6. Typed in Garrett's Poprcorn on my iPhone which is iOS 5 and a gazillion waypoints popped up in the city.

I am hoping though with the large amount of iPhone users that business owners will realize that their business is not being found anymore and will get it added to the database. We'll see if things improve from here on out.

What I'm curious to now is if Google will design an iOS app for Maps or will they let us suffer and let that be a selling point of Android.

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Originally Posted by jigjag69 

Wow. ISheep have something negative to say about God (Apple)

i think that elevates Apple users apart from the rest... they see the good and bad of Apple... they're not here just to bash everything that is non-Apple...

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee 
Google hasn't actually shown us yet that it's capable of designing a good maps app for a mobile device.

Get real. Google Maps is probably the only reason why anyone should want an Android device. It's fantastic. Hell it even has indoor maps.

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Originally Posted by lilgto64 

I have an idea - if you live in a country where Maps are not yet fully supported - Don't update to iOS 6. 

 

Perhaps hard to do if you are getting a new iPhone 5 - but here's an idea - don't update to an iPone 5 just yet. 

 

I would have to think that Apple is hard at work on getting lots of updates to Maps done as soon as possible. 

 

 

Or just get a cheap Android phone to use for maps only. 

In montreal, the fly over cover the entire metropolitain area, its very nice and I prefer it to streetview because it shows everything (roof tops, backyards, parks, ...)   I did some search of locations with Siri (in iOS 6 Siri locations now works in Canada, about time) and the results were OK, but not as good as google maps.

The new map system would be better if it cover more area with fly over.  Streetview covers pretty much everything in north america.  Giving the limited fly over coverage and incomplete location information, I think the maps have been release to early, it still needs a lot of work.

Originally Posted by Mazda 3s 
Hehe:
http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/

Thanks for the link. So instead of fixing the problems themselves, they whine about how bad it is. Why should anyone who brings up iOS' Maps in that regard be taken seriously? The only legitimate complaints that can be had, then, are the accuracy and clarity of the satellite and flyover imagery.

Steve: "What is this thing supposed to do?"

*half-hearted mumbling*

Steve: "Then why the F*** doesn't it do that???"

*Pink slips appear with the strength of a thousand suns*

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

Thanks for the link. So instead of fixing the problems themselves, they whine about how bad it is. Why should anyone who brings up iOS' Maps in that regard be taken seriously? The only legitimate complaints that can be had, then, are the accuracy and clarity of the satellite and flyover imagery.

How should someone go about fixing a bug or missing data in Apple Maps? I don't see a way to report problems or submit new data?

I'm really curious what Apple did here. They said they use Open Street Map for some of the basemap data. In my town, OSM has great maps, but Apple's maps are empty and many of the POIs are missing. So even submitting bugfixes to OSM is no guarantee that Apple will pick them up.

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Originally Posted by thataveragejoe 

 

Get real. Google Maps is probably the only reason why anyone should want an Android device. It's fantastic. Hell it even has indoor maps.

That's your opinion.  

Everyone I know who uses Android tells me the turn by turn is great but that the rest of it is very similar to the cluster-f*ck that is Google maps on the web. 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

Thanks for the link. So instead of fixing the problems themselves, they whine about how bad it is. Why should anyone who brings up iOS' Maps in that regard be taken seriously? The only legitimate complaints that can be had, then, are the accuracy and clarity of the satellite and flyover imagery.

Like this:

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Originally Posted by kozchris 

I'm sure maps will catch up quickly. A step back to make much more progress in the future.

Yes, this is exactly like changing to the Lightening connector or getting rid of the floppy drive. Sometimes you have to throw out the "good enough" and struggle through a little change to get to a better place. The alternative is stagnation. Most people don't like change, but, fortunately, Apple embraces it when it's the right way forward, even if it means a rocky road for a few miles.

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Originally Posted by Pendergast 

Wait, wait, are people really elevating Google Maps to some holy level, as if it were end the end all be all of mapping software?
Google Maps was ok. At best. And it was only ok because it was free.
I can't tell you how many times Google gave me poor or even wrong directions. If I wasn't super specific with a search, it would find a POI that's not close to me. It would return POIs that make no sense. Etc.
Unless you're in an area with poor Maps support, take all of this with a grain of salt. For most users, there will be no problems. And you won't hear from them. The only people you'll hear are those who are having a problem. It's not an accurate representation of the collective opinion.

Exactly. Google Maps is not some sort of infallible oracle, it was good enough, and it was what people knew.

The iPhone is an Apple product.  It is up to Apple, not Google, to make it good.

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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s 

 

If you 3D something outside the flyover coverage or near the end of the zone, you will get horrible results.  But imo this is more anti-apple propaganda than anything. Inside the 3d coverage, the maps are great. The problem is coverage is way to small, Apple should have waited before they release it or put more $$ and cover more.

The 2d map view lacks a lot of details indeed, but it will get better.  Again, this was release too soon.

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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s 

 

Like this:

 

 

 

 

how do you know there wasn't an earthquake? /s

It just works,err, well, not so much.

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Originally Posted by enjourni 

(2) Report bad location info to apple. You can tap on any feature on the screen and then post an update as to what data is wrong.

I know there are a lot of pain points right now, but enjourni makes a great point. If you see problems, report them.

So far, all of the inaccuracies I've seen on the new maps were the same inaccuracies that used to be on Google maps, i was just used to them.

But, i decided to report one so it'll be interesting to see how responsive Apple is, especially now when they are probably deluged with reports.

Makes me wonder...who did the beta testing for this? Did they not come accross any of these issues? C'mon now.....Apple is a huge company that prides itself on customer service and a great customer experience and great product design. Its why we all buy their products. But this new app does not seem to meet their standards!

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Originally Posted by jigjag69 

Wow. ISheep have something negative to say about God (Apple)

Apple customers will complain if it warrants complaining. Fandroids complain about Apple just to complain.

Do Fandroids complain about Android or do they just spout off spec lists like a robot?

For ex:

Average Android Customer: Android lag is a problem when scrolling.

Fandroid: but it has 2.0 GHz processor with 2 GB of RAM, NFC, face recognition, 8MP camera, USB ports, a stylus! Open Source!

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Originally Posted by derekmorr 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

Thanks for the link. So instead of fixing the problems themselves, they whine about how bad it is. Why should anyone who brings up iOS' Maps in that regard be taken seriously? The only legitimate complaints that can be had, then, are the accuracy and clarity of the satellite and flyover imagery.

 

How should someone go about fixing a bug or missing data in Apple Maps? I don't see a way to report problems or submit new data?

 

I'm really curious what Apple did here. They said they use Open Street Map for some of the basemap data. In my town, OSM has great maps, but Apple's maps are empty and many of the POIs are missing. So even submitting bugfixes to OSM is no guarantee that Apple will pick them up.

Touch the bottom right corner of the screen to bring up the map options screen, then choose "Report a problem".

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

The only legitimate complaints that can be had, then, are the accuracy and clarity of the satellite and flyover imagery.

My complaint is that my hometown doesn't exist on Apple Maps. It is simply not labelled - despite a nearby village being clearly labelled. Is that legitimate enough for you? How is one supposed to navigate to my town when Apple Maps doesn't think it exists?

Additionally, the satellite imagery is absolutely pathetic. I've gone from being able to see my house on Google Maps (and if I wish, my front door via Street View), to my entire town being a vague suburban blur on Apple Maps.

It's not just little towns, either. London looks pretty poor once you step outside the immediate centre - one of the world's most prominent cities. And Apple Maps can't find Paddington, one of London's biggest stations - or, for that matter, Manchester United Football Club, one of the world's most famous sports teams.

Considering that Apple Maps has been positioned as a drop-in replacement for Google Maps, this is utterly unacceptable. What has happened to quality control?

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Originally Posted by Modena360 

Not ready for prime time. The overview of my house in Rancho Mirage looks like it was shot through a cloud, and the images are extremely grainy. On google maps I could identify the cracks in the street. Another complaint is when trying to map an address in Carmel, California from my address book (the address there don't use street numbers but rather intersections), it cannot be found; never had that issue with Google Maps

So true. Makes the retina display function practically worthless on iMaps. Small shiner on the eye of Apple. I'll give it time but how much is to be seen. 

And here's the kicker: I don't even get 3D Flyover on my iPhone 4. And this is a MAPS APP (really important to have.)

So there goes iOS Maps' key feature for me (and plenty of others as well.)  Google Maps . . . Street View worked beautifully. 

Take note, that this isn't some app that lost a key feature. Yeah, I don't get to use Siri. No panorama photos. I can live with that. But a Maps App is supposed to be a key platform app. And it's gimped for god only knows how many users.