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In addition to paying customers anxious to get their hands on Apple's latest smartphone, the iPhone 5 launch has also attracted thieves who have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of inventory around the world.

In London, one thief stole 252 phones before the iPhone 5 went on sale, according to the BBC. Based on an average selling price of $650, the 252 phones lifted from the O2 store would have a total value of nearly $165,000.

In addition to the handsets, cash was also taken from the carrier's store, according to police. Authorities want to speak with 23-year-old Usman Sethi of Ilford in east London about the heist.

In America, police in Murfreesboro, TN say eight thieves made off with over $100,000 worth of stolen iPads and older iPhone models earlier this week, according to Nashville television station WSMV. The inventory was taken from a Best Buy store in Middle Tennessee after a stolen vehicle was rammed into a door at the loading dock. Reports from the scene say the thieves were looking to steal the new iPhone 5, however the store's stock had not yet arrived.

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And in Japan, police said 191 units of the iPhone 5 were taken from three stores in Osaka, according to The Wall Street Journal. The collective average selling price of those handsets would be nearly $125,000.

A total of 33 iPhone 5 units were reportedly taken from a KDDI Corp. store in Ibaraki city, while another 116 were stolen from a Softbank Corp. store in the western district of Osaka city, and another nearby KDDI-owned shop had 42 iPhone 5 units lifted.
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And how many Samsung phones were stolen before being sold? NONE.

Not even the thieves want to bother with those.
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And how many Samsung phones were stolen before being sold? NONE.
Not even the thieves want to bother with those.

 

lame

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lame

Not lame, it's the truth, which can be backed up by facts.

 

Thieves prefer Apple, and they usually don't bother with crap like Samsung.

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Not lame, it's the truth, which can be backed up by facts.

 

Thieves prefer Apple, and they usually don't bother with crap like Samsung.


Check the dumpsters. the thieves probably thought they were iPhones and when they realized they weren't, they tossed them.

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They can be traced right?  Im mean every cell phone can be tracked.  I would think that some how a private hit squad hired by Apple will go and paint those people with red die so they will live in shame for ever stealing from the great and mighty Apple.

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They can be traced right?  Im mean every cell phone can be tracked.  I would think that some how a private hit squad hired by Apple will go and paint those people with red die so they will live in shame for ever stealing from the great and mighty Apple.

Hopefully the police realize that most of these were so called 'inside jobs'. Someone who worked at these stores told someone else how many they had, where to find them and about the weakest link in the security system.
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Can you people go one forum without talking about Samsung? Seriously. Bunch of hypocrites. 

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Can you people go one forum without talking about Samsung? Seriously. Bunch of hypocrites. 

 

In the theft scenario, replace Samsung with Nokia. So it's not just Samsung talk.   ;)

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Since these stolen phones' serial numbers/IMEI's were not registered at a point of sale they will be easy traceable as stolen.
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Originally Posted by Mac-Daddy View Post
Bunch of hypocrites. 

 

… in what way? It's obvious you don't want to hear about Apple, so go to an Android forum where they bash Apple instead.

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Samsung thieves can be found bumping their phones together in a circle.

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… in what way? It's obvious you don't want to hear about Apple, so go to an Android forum where they bash Apple instead.

 

His point is that this forum is full of diehard Apple fanboys. You're all more obsessed with hating than you are with reason.

 

These threads are no longer a discussion of Apple products but rather vitriol towards Google, Microsoft, and other industry players associated therein.

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Originally Posted by Shidell View Post

These threads are no longer a discussion of Apple products but rather vitriol towards Google, Microsoft, and other industry players associated therein.

 

Yeah, that's certainly the case. Not a blatant lie ignoring what actually goes on, but a representation of what actually occurs here.

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Yeah, that's certainly the case. Not a blatant lie ignoring what actually goes on, but a representation of what actually occurs here.

 

Perhaps you should revisit your last week's worth of posts, your comments seem to indicate otherwise.

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Can you people go one forum without talking about Samsung? Seriously. Bunch of hypocrites. 

 

Would you prefer "generic manufacturer of whitegoods and electronics" instead?

 

Just say the word and I'll add a shortcut to my dictionary.

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In America, police in Murfeesboro, Tenn., say eight thieves made off with over $100,000 worth of stolen iPads and older iPhone models [...]

which america? north? south? central? latin? the united states of?


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Reports from the scene say the thieves were looking to steal the new iPhone 5, however he store's stock had not yet arrived.

did you mean "his store's stock"? something else?


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The average selling price on those handsets would be nearly $125,000.

why spend $125,000 on a phone in japan when you can buy a round trip ticket to the america for a couple of grand and then get that same phone for less than another thousand. total savings: $122,000. on average.

are you guys actually compensated for writing like this?
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Originally Posted by Pooch View Post
which america? north? south? central? latin? the united states of?

 

Don't start that again. lol.gif

 

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lame

 

Yes, I totally agree with you.  Quite lame that thieves don't steal Samsung phones after how Samsung advertises itself as so much better than iPhones.

Good call.  I never thought of that.

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His point is that this forum is full of diehard Apple fanboys. You're all more obsessed with hating than you are with reason.

 

These threads are no longer a discussion of Apple products but rather vitriol towards Google, Microsoft, and other industry players associated therein.

 

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Yeah, that's certainly the case. Not a blatant lie ignoring what actually goes on, but a representation of what actually occurs here.


The reality is that this forum has become infested with Android fanboys, that not only is here to piss in everyone's pool, but to spread downright lies to justify their (your) iHating crusade.

I have no problems with rational, thoughtful discussions about Apple products, and even those of competitors.  I'm actually quite interested in Microsoft's mobile offerings and considering expanding development work to that OS.  Android, doubt it.

I with the mods would step up their efforts to jettison the fandroid baggage and take a stronger stance with banning those that obviously post with the intent of stirring the hornets nest and removing their posts.
 

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In the theft scenario, replace Samsung with Nokia. So it's not just Samsung talk.   1wink.gif

Or HTC. Or LG. Or Motorola. No one wants to steal ANY Android phones.
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… in what way? It's obvious you don't want to hear about Apple, so go to an Android forum where they bash Apple instead.


Not at all, I actually visit this site daily but just hardly ever comment. You are a very high regarded person on this site who is very opinionated but also very educated and respected.

I come on this site to read Apple fans reactions to things APPLE, I just hate when everyone complains about Samsung yet it is every other word coming out of their mouth. The best way to ignore Samsung is to not talk about it, it's almost like we're giving them free publicity and marketing (good or bad) whenever you guys constantly bring it up. It's annoying, that's all.

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Not at all, I actually visit this site daily but just hardly ever comment. You are a very high regarded person on this site who is very opinionated but also very educated and respected.
I come on this site to read Apple fans reactions to things APPLE, I just hate when everyone complains about Samsung yet it is every other word coming out of their mouth. The best way to ignore Samsung is to not talk about it, it's almost like we're giving them free publicity and marketing (good or bad) whenever you guys constantly bring it up. It's annoying, that's all.
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… I like this guy. He says what in a perfect world we'd all do. And what we'd do if we had a 'get-ridda-da-trolls' policy.

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… I like this guy. He says what in a perfect world we'd all do. And what we'd do if we had a 'get-ridda-da-trolls' policy.

Thanks Skil, didn't get that last part though. Can you elaborate?
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Not at all, I actually visit this site daily but just hardly ever comment. You are a very high regarded person on this site who is very opinionated but also very educated and respected.
I come on this site to read Apple fans reactions to things APPLE, I just hate when everyone complains about Samsung yet it is every other word coming out of their mouth. The best way to ignore Samsung is to not talk about it, it's almost like we're giving them free publicity and marketing (good or bad) whenever you guys constantly bring it up. It's annoying, that's all.

 

I have to agree with this sentiment. I find it tiresome how so many threads here degenerate into Apple-flaming and/or Samsung/Google/Android-flaming. I firmly believe that the Apple fans who flame Samsung are just as much trolls as the Samsung fans who come here to bait them.

 

The Samsung-flaming has gotten to be such a routine that it starts before the Apple-haters even arrive in a thread! Don't feed the trolls!

 

To be fair: almost every thread anywhere on the internet degenerates. But can't we try to do better here?

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I with the mods would step up their efforts to jettison the fandroid baggage and take a stronger stance with banning those that obviously post with the intent of stirring the hornets nest and removing their posts.

 

 

I agree entirely with this. 

 

But you're the one who started it in this thread, sflocal. You gave the hornet's nest a kick before the Apple-haters even showed up. 

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Thanks Skil, didn't get that last part though. Can you elaborate?

 

A great many users come on here for the sole purpose of being anti-Apple in every respect. Some are paid to do this, most are not. They're allowed to spew whatever lies they want here as long as it doesn't go against our rules. And so, instead of letting those lies stand as what would appear to an outsider to be fact, we'll respond to them, correcting them, and showing up just how wrong they are. Of course, that winds up appearing like it turns into anti-everyone-else arguments, but there truly are not many of us that think everyone sucks but Apple.

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And how many Samsung phones were stolen before being sold? NONE.
Not even the thieves want to bother with those.

Agree 100% LOL
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Don't start that again. lol.gif

 

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And a note to Pooch... plus the traditional use of capitals for the names of countries!

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A great many users come on here for the sole purpose of being anti-Apple in every respect. Some are paid to do this, most are not. They're allowed to spew whatever lies they want here as long as it doesn't go against our rules. And so, instead of letting those lies stand as what would appear to an outsider to be fact, we'll respond to them, correcting them, and showing up just how wrong they are. Of course, that winds up appearing like it turns into anti-everyone-else arguments, but there truly are not many of us that think everyone sucks but Apple.

 

'As a moderator for AI, is that your official position?'!!

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Or HTC. Or LG. Or Motorola. No one wants to steal ANY Android phones.

There are probably numerous massive thefts of phones made by other manufacturers, but, since Apple has complete control over the media, none of these can be reported. Especially Samsung phones which may have been 'shipped to the wrong dealer'.

 

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Can you people go one forum without talking about Samsung? Seriously. Bunch of hypocrites. 

Exactly what I was thinking, the headline could read "People wiping their asses with iPhones" and there'll be "Nobody's wiping their ass with a Samsung" post.
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… in what way? It's obvious you don't want to hear about Apple, so go to an Android forum where they bash Apple instead.

We do wanna hear about Apple, but does Samsung and/or Android need be mentioned in every thread? Comment on the topic of the article. Mentioning Samsung all the time stops being funny and starts sounding pitiful. Every mention whether positive or negative gives them relevance. Does Apple bashing go on in those other sites? Yes but not in every single thread.
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The reality is that this forum has become infested with Android fanboys, that not only is here to piss in everyone's pool, but to spread downright lies to justify their (your) iHating crusade.


I have no problems with rational, thoughtful discussions about Apple products, and even those of competitors.  I'm actually quite interested in Microsoft's mobile offerings and considering expanding development work to that OS.  Android, doubt it.


I with the mods would step up their efforts to jettison the fandroid baggage and take a stronger stance with banning those that obviously post with the intent of stirring the hornets nest and removing their posts.

 

I would agree with you that there are some on here that who have nothing positive to ever say about Apple. If you reply to them then you're guilty of justifying their existence. The very first poster on this thread lambasted Samsung, why do that if the topic is solely about iPhone thefts.
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Even if not activated/registered doesn't Apple have a record of which units where shipped where? 

 

Regarding the comment of inside job - while that may be so in some cases - in the case of Best Buy - where they have cages to store products above the regular on display merchandise it would not be at all difficult for a custom to walk through the store and get an idea where the target product is located and ramming a vehicle through a wall/door seems a bit less subtle than the tactics I would expect from someone with inside help. Would be far easier to "accidentally" leave a door unlocked such that it might take a day or two for the theft to even be noticed giving you more time to sell the goods.

 

Regarding Apple products (esp newly announced products) - I would guess that the thieves could care less  what the product or who the manufacturer is and are simply capitalizing on the fact that certain products, even stolen, demand a premium and others don't. Not that I think most criminals are very smart - but they do understand that product A gets you enough cash on the black market to buy a 6 pack of beer while product B gets you enough to buy your next bag of crack. (or something along those lines). 

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Is this thread about the stolen iPhones or about Apple-vs-Samsung (+other Android vendors)? I would hope that I am either a serious contributor here or sometimes attempt some funny comments (many of which probably just fall flat). Having said that, my first thought was: how come we don't see many reports of non-Apple phones being stolen?

 

The fact is that iPhones are desirable and people will buy stolen phones, knowingly or unknowingly -- it's the same as the legitimate market: supply & demand. UK phones can be blocked by networks, but the phone has to be powered-up within range of UK transmitters -- once they're shipped out of the country, they cannot be blocked/de-activated, and given that some markets are already reporting that legit iPhone5 are changing hands at $1000 apiece, "back-of-the-lorry" phones are going to fetch at least the same amount.

 

 

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Based on an average selling price of $650, the 252 phones lifted from the O2 store would have a total value of nearly $165,000.

They're probably worth at least $250,000 to the thief, and maybe more in the "right" market.

 

A point I have to make is that this site is primarily for Apple products -- non-Apple products are mentioned when they are of interest to Apple users or for comparison purposes so you will find a lot of pro-Apple (anti-non-Apple) comments here, but most of them lack vitriol. Visit even neutral sites which write positive articles about Apple and a swarm of Android users invade with some pretty nasty comments -- some of these people are too biased and too stupid to be alive, but they have an opinion and an outlet for spewing their vitriolic comments. I often wonder if some of these have ever seen, never mind used, an Apple product. Many comments are just copy & paste from bloggers'/commentators' articles.

 

Just recently it hit me where else I have seen similar reactions -- far-right and racist websites, where there is little that is rational so now I treat Apple-haters like I do the racists -- challenge or ignore the ignorants.

 

And some of these poor fools still write about Apple stealing stuff from Xerox PARC or that Microsoft somehow saved Apple from bankruptcy (when Apple had $2Billion in cash sitting in the bank).

 

Sometimes I just have to accept that this is all part of human nature and human interaction -- it's the level of hatred that saddens me.

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The London thief was not very knowledgeable about digital devices. Otherwise, he would've stolen 256 of them
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Just recently it hit me where else I have seen similar reactions -- far-right and racist websites, where there is little that is rational so now I treat Apple-haters like I do the racists -- challenge or ignore the ignorants.

And some of these poor fools still write about Apple stealing stuff from Xerox PARC or that Microsoft somehow saved Apple from bankruptcy (when Apple had $2Billion in cash sitting in the bank).

Sometimes I just have to accept that this is all part of human nature and human interaction -- it's the level of hatred that saddens me.

Haha, here I was just thinking how I have never seen it anywhere but "mommy war" forums. Creepy.
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Exactly what I was thinking, the headline could read "People wiping their asses with iPhones" and there'll be "Nobody's wiping their ass with a Samsung" post.

Hmmm - iToilet Paper - but what is the killer app, Makes your SH*T smell like Roses? 

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