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Originally Posted by GadgetCanada View Post
I heard the next GSIV will have a 5" screen. The screen will be increased for the user experience. Not so they can house a monster battery, a replaceable graphics card and cooling fans so it can run for at least 5 minutes. Just you wait iSheep, the GSIV will destroy iPhone 5.

 

I LOVE this new commercial. Classic Apple. Makes me believe some of what they were is still there.

 

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Yep.  Please - work out all the kinks for the rest of us.  Apple has done a great job getting you signed up as perennial beta testers.  Get iOS 6 fixed and I'll buy from the 3rd major production cycle once the scratching gets figured out.  It's going to be a great phone.

 

The damage is on a few phones out of millions... there are no such thing like a perfect batch of millions of phones, no matter who builds them.

You can still use maps.google.com on the phone as a web app.

 

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Apple dual-core kicks sand in the face of an Android quad-core. Yep, us iSheep are just hypnotized by marketing.

I heard the next GSIV will have a 5" screen. The screen will be increased for the user experience. Not so they can house a monster battery, a replaceable graphics card and cooling fans so it can run for at least 5 minutes. Just you wait iSheep, the GSIV will destroy iPhone 5.

 

The S3 in the PCmag test is dual core, they used the US version.


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the Touch has A5 proc., different from the iPhone5

Sorry, I meant the current iPod Touch should probably match the previous iPhone. The current iPod Touch is version 5, compared to iPhone version 6, anyway, isn't it?

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I LOVE this new commercial. Classic Apple. Makes me believe some of what they were is still there.

 

 

 

Nice ad indeed.

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Of course it is, and I always assumed it would be. Which is why the kneejerk, myopic troll reactions of LOL UNDERSPECCED ONLY 1 GB RAM DUAL CORE were so fucking stupid. This is always the case though- the trolls get disproven about absolutely EVERYTHING they say, every single attack gets exposed to be bullshit, yet they repeat the same shit the next year. And not just Apple haters mind you, but also from supposedly Apple fans. Even the leaked case, which was universally decided to be 'ugly as hell, not Apple-like, trash' etc online, and now once the phone is in people's hand its being described as possibly the nicest/most beautiful device ever made. The contrast is always mindblowing, yet every time its the same thing. 

 

Nice language - is it really necessary?

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I upgraded my wife's 4 to iOS 6 and left mine at 5.1.1.  I went outside to get decent GPS signals, brought up the maps app on both, and had both phones plot directions to the local mall.  iOS 6/Apple maps routed the course via roads that no longer exist, iOS 5.1.1 routed me via roads that exist.  I didn't find that acceptable.  Dick.

 

Dear Dick,

 

it must be a terrible thing to have the memory span of a goldfish, most people know where their local shops are without needing to use a GPS.

 

Get well soon.

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post #47 of 178
It's good to see Apple using as an ad campaign what I've been arguing for for years when people say they want a wider iPhone.

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This one:-

$300 for a screen replacement, Samsung have got to be kidding themselves.

That is interesting but it's not what I'd call scientific. The devices didn't fall exactly the same or hit the same exact surface. You really need to do exact tests in force and position (which usually means keeping the device stationary) to get an accurate feel for specific weaknesses.

You would also need to do a large number of the sort of tests in the video in order to get a baseline of the likelihood of various damage from real world settings and usage patterns. I'm sure both companies do them but I trust Apple more on this, especially because for $50 I can get a new iPhone like that with AppleCare+.

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I thought the Galaxy S3 in the USA was just a dual core chip? Which phone did they use for the tests? Besides that, quadcore performance advantage is only going to show up in certain applications. Other than this -I hear ya!

"Now what do these tests prove that slaps fandroids silly? That a DUAL-core iPhone chip can run rings around a QUAD-core android-phone chip."
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This one:-

 

 

$300 for a screen replacement, Samsung have got to be kidding themselves.

That was an absolutely terrible test, in my opinion. Can you really imagine anyone "dropping" their phone like that? A person wouldn't just sudden move their hand away from their pocket or ear and let the phone go. He dropped them face down almost every time, when I imagine most people drop it onto a corner. When he took the SIII out of his pocket, it looked like he practically flung it. Now what would have been hilarious would be if when he was showing it the last time at the end and the SIII got stuck in his pocket, it really did slip out of his hand.

 

He also seems surprised the iPhone screen is made of such durable stuff when they go out and tell people exactly what it's made of in the first place.

 

And how is it not a big deal when your phone goes flying in two different directions, even if the back case is just cheap plastic? This guy is weird.

post #50 of 178
Superior performance is effectively irrelevant since the performance scores are similar.

The critical point is that (apparently) a 1.0 GHz dual-core processor rivals 1.4 GHz quad-core processors (presumably) sharing the same 32nm high-k + metal gate LP process. Furthermore, Apple has much higher power efficiency at virtually the same performance considering 5.45 watt-hours at 3.8 volts for the iPhone 5 versus 7.98 watt-hours at 3.8 volts for the Samsung Galaxy S III yet the batter life performance on the Samsung Galaxy S III is apparently horrid.
post #51 of 178
Slightly off topic, but does anyone know what the deal is concerning data plans with AT&T for iPhone 5? I have been grandfathered in for unlimited 3G and I was never given the option to choose an LTE plan. I think I saw somewhere that I was grandfathered in to unlimited LTE, but I can't find that again and that doesn't sound right.
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Slightly off topic, but does anyone know what the deal is concerning data plans with AT&T for iPhone 5? I have been grandfathered in for unlimited 3G and I was never given the option to choose an LTE plan. I think I saw somewhere that I was grandfathered in to unlimited LTE, but I can't find that again and that doesn't sound right.

 

I think I read that to keep your unlimited plan you had to pay the non subsidized price for the iphone 5? I am in the same boat as you and would love to hear a definitive answer.

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You can still use maps.google.com on the phone as a web app.

Its OK as a fallback, but it is not nearly as smooth as a native app.

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The S3 in the PCmag test is dual core, they used the US version.

Which raises the question, why did Samsung gimp the US version?
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Dear Dick,

 

it must be a terrible thing to have the memory span of a goldfish, most people know where their local shops are without needing to use a GPS.

 

Get well soon.

What a ridiculous reply....seriously!

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What fear?  I just don't like paying top dollar for a phone that doesn't work as well as it should -- and I don't like getting lost.

You should really hop into an Apple store and try one out, just for a few minutes. You'll be picking up your jaw off the floor and your wallet out of your pocket, screaming like a girl: "Shut up and take my money!"

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"Benchmarks don't matter to you Appletards, right?"

 

—The Anti-Apple Brigade, upon reading this

 

In all honestly to me they really don't. Random benchmarks and specs matter less to me than how it actually performs when I use it. ANd that's probably true for the average user since they rarely to never know what those benchmarks mean anyway

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But 4 is greater than 2! 

 

by way of a reply I give you

 

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Well, that's too bad..  seems like the average iphone users can't tell the difference anyway..

 

 

Those weren't average users. Those skits are a set up. Rather like those Windows Phone videos with the idiot iphone users. Those weren't really random folks off the street either

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post #59 of 178

This is meaningless. They'll be faster phones on the market in 2-3 months, but there won't be better ones.

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I think I read that to keep your unlimited plan you had to pay the non subsidized price for the iphone 5? I am in the same boat as you and would love to hear a definitive answer.

Exactly, and right now I'm using LTE and I'm not going to be happy if some fee comes out of nowhere that I'm not expecting
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Which raises the question, why did Samsung gimp the US version?

 

For the LTE.  I don't think the international SIII supports LTE (at least in initial versions).  What several articles I read about it said was that the 1.5ghz dual core chip would work with the LTE chips they were using in the US while the quad core 1.4ghz chips would not or some such thing.

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Its OK as a fallback, but it is not nearly as smooth as a native app.
Which raises the question, why did Samsung gimp the US version?

 

I believe it has something to do with the LTE drivers, the International quad core version does not have LTE.

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You should really hop into an Apple store and try one out, just for a few minutes. You'll be picking up your jaw off the floor and your wallet out of your pocket, screaming like a girl: "Shut up and take my money!"


That day will come.  It always does.  Apple has gladly assisted me many times with EFT's from my bank account to theirs.

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What a ridiculous reply....seriously!
Yeah jefe, but it was funny!

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What a ridiculous reply....seriously!

 

Seriously, about as ridiculous the post it was in response to.

 

Apple's new maps have a report feature.

 

Find something wrong, drop a pin, report what exactly is wrong.

 

If enough people around the world do this then the better the maps will be.

 

That's called crowd sourcing.

 

I have already reported a couple of errors.

 

btw here's a screenshot of a pretty complex road junction, Australia seems to have pretty good flyover views.

 

 

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For the LTE.  I don't think the international SIII supports LTE (at least in initial versions).  What several articles I read about it said was that the 1.5ghz dual core chip would work with the LTE chips they were using in the US while the quad core 1.4ghz chips would not or some such thing.

 

Maybe a fourth (and fifth?) antenna would help.

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I love this ad, too.  Simplistic, classic Apple.  Not like some other over dramatized, stab your competition, spec spewing, insecure ads of late.  Apple sure knows how to make a 30 sec point across so effectively! 

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When Google maps premiered on the iPhone more than five years ago, directions from Hawaii to Australia entailed driving across the Pacific Ocean.

 

Images of where we lived and worked were outdated, and some didn't exist at all.

 

Maps needed developing, bad directions were widespread, and maps weren't ads.

 

It was funny then.  It was Google, and iOS users were quick to help improve maps.

 

Relying on global partners, Apple has delivered a mobile maps product on iOS devices.

 

To Google it's laughable.  To iOS users it's time to embrace and improve Apple maps.

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Enjoy all the power with a phone that comes with the cosmetic damage already started for you and with maps that are more than a bit wonky.
I'll stick with my 4 and 5.1.1 until you ultra-fanboys get all the kinks worked out.

What cosmetic damage? My iPhone 5 arrived in flawless condition. Stop reading small-sample internet forums.
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When Google maps premiered on the iPhone more than five years ago, directions from Hawaii to Australia entailed driving across the Pacific Ocean.

 

Images of where we lived and worked were outdated, and some didn't exist at all.

 

Maps needed developing, bad directions were widespread, and maps weren't ads.

 

It was funny then.  It was Google, and iOS users were quick to help improve maps.

 

Relying on global partners, Apple has delivered a mobile maps product on iOS devices.

 

To Google it's laughable.  To iOS users it's time to embrace and improve Apple maps.

 

They tell you to use a kayak, just for fun I got directions to a Facebook invite in New York, here's a screenshot I took a couple of months ago:-

 

 


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You mean the people that read this site and have already bought a new iPhone or the 5-8 million (est.) average people who have bought and are buying an iPhone this weekend?

Even some of us who read the site have not purchased one yet. I will get it in Feb. when my contract renews. I kind of like building the hype for myself. Right now I have the iPhone 4. Still works fine and is running on iOS 6.

I'm also making my own experiment! I am very curious as to when I will see an iPhone 5 "in the wild" as you folk say. I'm curious as to how their reaction will be when I ask about it. I'm curious to know if I will notice that it's different. I'm also curious how my reaction will be when I finally see it first hand "in the wild".

If this doesn't happen by February then I will just call AT&T and get a new one.


I make my own games to keep things exciting.... At least kind of exciting!

Also, some of us need to buy the new one in a different fiscal quarter to keep numbers looking good. One in several million doesn't look so great, but it does count.
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Even some of us who read the site have not purchased one yet. I will get it in Feb. when my contract renews. I kind of like building the hype for myself. Right now I have the iPhone 4. Still works fine and is running on iOS 6.
I'm also making my own experiment! I am very curious as to when I will see an iPhone 5 "in the wild" as you folk say. I'm curious as to how their reaction will be when I ask about it. I'm curious to know if I will notice that it's different. I'm also curious how my reaction will be when I finally see it first hand "in the wild".
If this doesn't happen by February then I will just call AT&T and get a new one.
I make my own games to keep things exciting.... At least kind of exciting!
Also, some of us need to buy the new one in a different fiscal quarter to keep numbers looking good. One in several million doesn't look so great, but it does count.

My reaction to playing with one while the very cute Apple Store employee was on hold with Verizon CS for 20 minutes wasn't too exciting. It looks awkward after 5 years with the iPhone. It's lighter and thinner but it wasn't anything that wowed me. Maybe it was the Apple security cable on the device that was taking away from the effect because after using mine I have been surprised a few times at how light it is.

The display is certainly better with the thinner GG2, better color representation and removal of the touch matrix being over the display. The quality is really great but that also didn't make me say wow because I expect that from the iPhone even though this really is tops for any Apple product.

My four biggest "Wow!"s are are 1) from how small the Lightening connector is, 2) seeing it sync faster than before (should we expect faster NAND?), 3) being told it charges faster because the dynamic pins and charger can power over more pins, 4) how incredibly fast the system is compared to my iPhone 4.

Even the >30Mbps up and >20MBps down for LTE on Verizon wasn't a "Wow!" factor because I'm use to that with my iPad (3). Not that knowing about the device and having experience with other Apple products means it takes away its usefulness. It's still absolutely wonderful upgrade.

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That was an absolutely terrible test, in my opinion. Can you really imagine anyone "dropping" their phone like that? A person wouldn't just sudden move their hand away from their pocket or ear and let the phone go. He dropped them face down almost every time, when I imagine most people drop it onto a corner. When he took the SIII out of his pocket, it looked like he practically flung it. Now what would have been hilarious would be if when he was showing it the last time at the end and the SIII got stuck in his pocket, it really did slip out of his hand.

 

He also seems surprised the iPhone screen is made of such durable stuff when they go out and tell people exactly what it's made of in the first place.

 

And how is it not a big deal when your phone goes flying in two different directions, even if the back case is just cheap plastic? This guy is weird.

 

I think the videos are meant to promote their website over anything else. Sort of like those "Will it blend?" videos that are made to promote those blenders in the age of YouTube and viral videos.

 

But yeah, for an ostensibly pro-Android site, the guy is hilariously surprised the iPhone 5 is as durable as it was. What he was he expecting? To embarrass Apple? The 5 is the fastest and most well-engineered smartphone on the planet.

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Designs like this CPU scare intel because imagine what they are doing for notebook cpu's that we haven't seen...

 

I sometimes wonder about this...  The x86 started out as a CISC CPU, but in recent iterations they have added RISC capability to gain speed and processing power.  As I understand it, Intel processors include 1 or more decoders where the x86 CISC instructions are decoded into RISC instructions, which are then executed giving the speed and power benefits of RISC.

 

I wonder if it is possible to preprocess the x86 binaries with some kind of SIFT application giving RISC-only binaries.

 

MSFT has ported much of Office to run on their ARM Surface RT tablets.  UI issues aside, it should be relatively easy to port Office 2013, to an ARM chip like the A6 (or follow-on) running in laptop or a desktop.

 

It would seem that Apple has a lead here, in that they already have [most of] OS X, their desktop OS, running on ARM.

 

 

To state it bluntly:  What would be the impact if Apple could offer an OSX ARM Laptop that only runs only the MS Office Suite -- no other legacy Wintel apps?  Would Office alone satisfy the needs of a majority of Windows users.

 

Of course, I assume the hardware would  run OS X ARM -- likely, Apple already has full OS X running on ARM.  Then OS X developers, with a simple recompile, could convert their OS X apps to ARM. In a similar way, iOS developers could recompile their apps (if necessary) to run in a window on OSX ARM.

 

Here's the thing... I am not sure that this is the best way to go.  The success of the iPad makes me wonder if we need to abandon the "complexity" of the desktop OS (multiple overlapping windows, massive multitasking, etc.) in favor of a more simpler iPad-like approach...  Say, add a Finder-like capability, a few background tasks, optional 2-up apps (windows)?

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When Google maps premiered on the iPhone more than five years ago, directions from Hawaii to Australia entailed driving across the Pacific Ocean.

Images of where we lived and worked were outdated, and some didn't exist at all.

Maps needed developing, bad directions were widespread, and maps weren't ads.

It was funny then.  It was Google, and iOS users were quick to help improve maps.

Relying on global partners, Apple has delivered a mobile maps product on iOS devices.

To Google it's laughable.  To iOS users it's time to embrace and improve Apple maps.

One of the best posts I've seen in a while!

Google's maps are older, more refined and have more wisdom so to speak. Apple is smarter and learns faster but doesn't have the experience or wisdom that Google has in this area of expertise.

If you had a child that remembers everything and is more intelligent than you, they still do not inherit wisdom or past experiences.

i.e. "Roger will walk you to your car." "You know I remember where my car is." "Yes, but you're pretty, and my angel so Roger needs to walk you there." You understand quick when Roger is fighting and then later informs you that the person didn't decide to arrive just to fight him.

Point being, google took all of the punches right up to now. Apple can not replicate, nor translate past experiences. They just know. It's wisdom.

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That a DUAL-core iPhone chip can run rings around a QUAD-core android-phone chip. 

 

But 4 is greater than 2! Therefore my Android phone is better than your iPhone! Nevermind that mine is slower, more laggy, worse built and looks like shit, my screen is bigger!

 

I don't even need a home entertainment system, I just hang my Android phone on the wall, and watch movies there all day long. It saves a hell of a lot of money, especially for somebody like me who can't afford a 50" LCD. And don't even make me mention all of the wild rooting that I've been doing lately on the phone. It's not like girls are interested in me or anything, they usually just laugh when I pull out that huge phone, and I find rooting to be an interesting hobby. Don't underestimate re-arranging your desktop until you've tried it! Hell, it's not like there are a lot of good games or worthwhile apps that I can use, so moving icons around will have to do for now.

 

I also spend most of my free time on Apple forums, because those iFans need to be set straight, and I hate Apple so much that it makes sense to constantly talk about Apple products. 

 

LOL +++

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Why have we not yet seen an iPhone 5 advertisement that communicates the true value of owning one?

 

"Your phone owes my phone One Billion Dollars!"

 

 

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My reaction to playing with one while the very cute Apple Store employee...

 

Pictures, or it didn't happen.

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So you never left the house before Internet-based mapping services were invented?

 

I upgraded my wife's 4 to iOS 6 and left mine at 5.1.1.  I went outside to get decent GPS signals, brought up the maps app on both, and had both phones plot directions to the local mall.  iOS 6/Apple maps routed the course via roads that no longer exist, iOS 5.1.1 routed me via roads that exist.  I didn't find that acceptable.  Dick.

 

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I upgraded my wife's 4 to iOS 6 and left mine at 5.1.1.  I went outside to get decent GPS signals, brought up the maps app on both, and had both phones plot directions to the local mall.  iOS 6/Apple maps routed the course via roads that no longer exist, iOS 5.1.1 routed me via roads that exist.  I didn't find that acceptable.  Dick.

 

Paging Mr. Applebaum… Mr. Applebaum, you have a post on line 2. 

 

 

Show a little consideration... @runbuh has obviously lost his wife... or vice versa... More's the pity.  Runbuh.

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Apple dual-core kicks sand in the face of an Android quad-core. Yep, us iSheep are just hypnotized by marketing.

I heard the next GSIV will have a 5" screen. The screen will be increased for the user experience. Not so they can house a monster battery, a replaceable graphics card and cooling fans so it can run for at least 5 minutes. Just you wait iSheep, the GSIV will destroy iPhone 5.

 

LOL. "kicks sand in the face"... How old are you?  This reminds me of the He-Man body-building ads in the comic books of the 1950s.  

 

Then there's the story of the 98-pound weakling...  He spent a summer in Alaska -- and when he came back he was a husky fucker!

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