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Apple dual-core kicks sand in the face of an Android quad-core. Yep, us iSheep are just hypnotized by marketing.

I heard the next GSIV will have a 5" screen. The screen will be increased for the user experience. Not so they can house a monster battery, a replaceable graphics card and cooling fans so it can run for at least 5 minutes. Just you wait iSheep, the GSIV will destroy iPhone 5.

 

LOL. "kicks sand in the face"... How old are you?  This reminds me of the He-Man body-building ads in the comic books of the 1950s.  

 

Then there's the story of the 98-pound weakling...  He spent a summer in Alaska -- and when he came back he was a husky fucker!

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Apple is wants to charge you $900 off contract for a 64gb phone and $400 for one on contract. I hope you get a reach around and some ky with that raping, for a phone that is on par with a 2 year old Android phone.

 

About the same as three Galaxy S III screen replacements, you'd better keep some of that KY handy if you drop your slower phone.

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SOT:

 

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/09/apple-cuts-display-orders-to-samsung-loses-patent-case-in-germany.html#more

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The Korean Times is reporting this morning that "Apple has reduced purchases of liquid crystal display (LCD) panels for tablet computers from Samsung Display amid the deepening patent disputes, said a leading market research firm, Friday. Market experts said that the move is aimed at minimizing its reliance on Samsung parts." 

 

An analysis by DisplaySearch showed Apple bought 683,000 display sheets for use in its 9.7-inch iPad tablet from Samsung Display in August this year ― a cut by nearly 50 percent from a month earlier. 9.7-inch displays are only being used in Apple iPads.

 

In May, Samsung Display shipped 2.88 million sheets to Apple, which was a monthly record. But the shipments were down to 1.22 million in July from 2.5 million that Samsung sold to Apple in June, according to the research firm.

 

 

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Edited by Dick Applebaum - 9/22/12 at 1:31am
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post #84 of 179
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My reaction to playing with one while the very cute Apple Store employee was on hold with Verizon CS for 20 minutes wasn't too exciting. It looks awkward after 5 years with the iPhone. It's lighter and thinner but it wasn't anything that wowed me. Maybe it was the Apple security cable on the device that was taking away from the effect because after using mine I have been surprised a few times at how light it is.
The display is certainly better with the thinner GG2, better color representation and removal of the touch matrix being over the display. The quality is really great but that also didn't make me say wow because I expect that from the iPhone even though this really is tops for any Apple product.
My four biggest "Wow!"s are are 1) from how small the Lightening connector is, 2) seeing it sync faster than before (should we expect faster NAND?), 3) being told it charges faster because the dynamic pins and charger can power over more pins, 4) how incredibly fast the system is compared to my iPhone 4.
Even the >30Mbps up and >20MBps down for LTE on Verizon wasn't a "Wow!" factor because I'm use to that with my iPad (3). Not that knowing about the device and having experience with other Apple products means it takes away its usefulness. It's still absolutely wonderful upgrade.

Wow! I'm happy that a beautiful mind responded to me!

I can see how the cute girl would be a plus to guys. "Sex sells" is something I hear a lot.

I've seen the security devices I believe, but I don't go to stores often so I don't know how they detract from the experience. I only go to stores for clothes. You do have to try them on after all... Unless you get custom.

I'm really interested in the quality. I think stainless steel is an amazing non-ferrous metal. I didn't like the fact that Apple changed to Al, which also carries with it all of the problems with Al. However with my iPad 3 (or new iPad) there doesn't seem to be a problem with dissimilar metals. Everything seems to be distanced well and no bonding seems apparent. Well engineered!

I gather you went to the store to purchase your phone. I didn't read anything about stock outs. Even on Apple sites. Should be interesting both to investors and speculators.

How is the new connector? Is it really that much faster? Do you think Apple should put it in the iPad right now as an 'unnoticed' update?

I'm also reading about how much faster it is. If my iPhone 4 is working with no 'tech verbiage' stutters on iOS 6, will I notice? I would love Siri on my phone but having it on the iPad is almost better. I have the knowledge to do it but my father says "Right is always right. You have no need to cheat."

Also, it supposedly charges faster. Do you believe it would charge the iPad 3 faster? Irrelevant, because the three will never have that connector and the next one will be battery optimized for the new chip.

LTE is a relatively market ploy. Those that use it are never far from WiFi. Those that do not are not near anything useful. It is definitely faster than WiFi though. While trying to heat up my iPad during the heat issues I was playing movies over LTE for quite a long time (LTE is available in Boston). My iPad never heated up.
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What a ridiculous reply....seriously!

 

Seriously, about as ridiculous the post it was in response to.

 

Apple's new maps have a report feature.

 

Find something wrong, drop a pin, report what exactly is wrong.

 

If enough people around the world do this then the better the maps will be.

 

That's called crowd sourcing.

 

I have already reported a couple of errors.

 

btw here's a screenshot of a pretty complex road junction, Australia seems to have pretty good flyover views.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, we've been at it a bit longer than you:

 

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post #86 of 179
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I wouldn't get too excited, iSheep. The latest flagship model of ANY phone is usually the fastest. It will be usurped by the end of the year.

You heard it here first. 8)

 

When you purchase a category of phone that is in the majority, who exactly is the 'iSheep'?

 

When you're ready for build-quality, style, and refinement rather than penis-enhancing specs, visit an Apple store.

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Pictures, or it didn't happen.

Try doing it in person. My dear father pays a person to prevent what you are implying.

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penis-enhancing

Yes your quote is taken extremely out of context.

Also, thank you for 'bringing that to the table'.
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I wouldn't get too excited, iSheep. The latest flagship model of ANY phone is usually the fastest. It will be usurped by the end of the year.


You heard it here first. 8)

Water flows downhill.

You heard it here first!
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Yes your quote is taken extremely out of context.
Also, thank you for 'bringing that to the table'.

 

Sorry for the loud sound...

 

 

 

 

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Sorry for the loud sound...

S



That was funny!


...oh wait? Not really.

Leave posting cool pics to those that used to post cool pics.
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That was funny!
...oh wait? Not really.
Leave posting cool pics to those that used to post cool pics.

 

Please feel free to lead by example, Oh Great One!

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post #93 of 179
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Originally Posted by GTR View Post

 

When you purchase a category of phone that is in the majority, who exactly is the 'iSheep'?

 

When you're ready for build-quality, style, and refinement rather than penis-enhancing specs, visit an Apple store.

 Build Quality - No, try the Oppo Finder, that phone can hammer a nail to a wooden board and not break (Literally, check out the youtube video), and it's the thinnest smartphone ever (Unlike what Apple has you believing)

Style - Yes, if you're the guy that pulls out his iPhone just to impress other people (Because NOBODY has the iPhone /s)

Refinement - Definitely true, probably the best iPhone has going for them (If you discount the downgrade iOS 6 brought with garbage Maps)

post #94 of 179
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I wouldn't get too excited, iSheep. The latest flagship model of ANY phone is usually the fastest. It will be usurped by the end of the year.

You heard it here first. 8)

 

Actually, it should be usurped quicker than that. The problem is that it will be 'usurped' by a phone with cheap plastic body, poor battery life and running laggy apps on top of a stolen JVM.

 

The speed is a nice bonus, but that's not what makes it a better phone.

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Actually, it should be usurped quicker than that. The problem is that it will be 'usurped' by a phone with cheap plastic body, poor battery life and running laggy apps on top of a stolen JVM.

 

The speed is a nice bonus, but that's not what makes it a better phone.

 Stolen JVM? Didn't a jury find Google not guilty?

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Say hello to Jelly Bean.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1026099
S3 Geekbench score 1781.
And all that all with the disadvantage of the bigger screen.
The rest will follow.

Once again, how about a side-by-side comparison under the same conditions? Especially one where the test conditions are spelled out.

Many of the Geekbench numbers are based on hacked phones where many, if not most, features have been deactivated in order to get very high performance.

PC Magazine, OTOH, ran side-by-side tests of various phones using a pretty wide variety of tests and under controlled conditions. Anyone but a fandroid would consider that to be much more reliable.
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I believe it has something to do with the LTE drivers, the International quad core version does not have LTE.

Then the dual core would be a more accurate comparison, because the iPhone 5 has LTE, making it better like-for-like comparison. Quad core may be faster, but I don't expect anyone that wants the most advanced phone would reach for one without LTE.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

Enjoy denying yourself a device for six months for no reason beyond irrational fears.


Not necessarily irrational.  I have had two kernel panics in two days on my MBP Retina.  Quite a few other people are having the problem as well.  Being an early adopter with Apple can be a worry at times.  Of course in usual Apple style, they don't acknowledge there is a problem and don't tell anyone if they are working on a fix.  If they do come up with a fix, they still don't tell anyone, just slip it into an OS update and hope those afflicted do the update at some point.

 

So I'm currently having a nervous time beta testing for Apple and hoping they can fix it with software and that there isn't an intrinsic hardware problem.

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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post
They tell you to use a kayak, just for fun I got directions to a Facebook invite in New York, here's a screenshot I took a couple of months ago:-

 

B…b…but… seven years! Not months! You're obviously lying. Google has had time to fix this by now.

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post #100 of 179
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

SOT:

 

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/09/apple-cuts-display-orders-to-samsung-loses-patent-case-in-germany.html#more

 

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Being made up for possibly by Apple having to go cap in hand to Samsung asking for more MBP Retina screens, because the ones from LG/Sharp are rubbish.  On the Apple support forums there's quite a thread about MBP Retina screen problems.  Those who find they have a Samsung screen breathe a sigh of relief while those who don't groan or make other unhappy noises.


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Then the dual core would be a more accurate comparison, because the iPhone 5 has LTE, making it better like-for-like comparison. Quad core may be faster, but I don't expect anyone that wants the most advanced phone would reach for one without LTE.


Except perhaps the overwhelming majority of the world's phone users who don't have access to LTE.

 

Of course Samsung recently announced they had produced the worlds first A15 core based mobile SOC.  When they get that beast into a phone, and the iP5 no longer has the speed crown, benchmarks will again become a dirty word.

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It looks like Fandroids now Haemorrhoids after these results.

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Originally Posted by Mac.World View Post

What is sad is that you don't know the reason and have to ask. This is what happens when you are 2 years behind the times on tech for a phone.
I do like all the copying Apple did in ios6 though. VIP Mail? LOL Gee, so original. Notification center is still just a clone of the Android original. Hell, Apple ran out of ideas and has to rehash the same design every year. Same with ios. Looks the samr today as it did in 2007. Yawn. And i see you still cant do the most basic of functions like attach files to an email. Or look at a single file or folder. How about connecting some devices like a mouse or maybe a game controller? No?
Apple maps is just plain crap. Most of the buildings and roads in downtown LA melted. Apple couldn't even map their own HQ right! And battery life is the same as the 4S, so in other words, it's shitty. S3 lasts several hours longer, and of course, in 2 seconds you have 100% power again. The speed and smoothness of the S3 puts the crappy stretched turd of an iphone to shame. And of course, Apple is wants to charge you $900 off contract for a 64gb phone and $400 for one on contract. I hope you get a reach around and some ky with that raping, for a phone that is on par with a 2 year old Android phone. But hey, at least you have some benchmarks you can fall back on to cling to the belief you have a good phone.
I find you ifanboys entertaining. So easily impressed with an antiquated phone and stole operating system that is severely lacking. Anyway, you can get back to jerking each other off and swallowing more Apple juice.

It's not insulting to use such slurs when your writing and formatting are at the seventh grade level.

For one, I don't pay close attention to phone specs between upgrades because contracts last two years, anything in between makes no difference to me because it will all be replaced by new models. I also have no reason to know the minutiae of phones that won't reach my shores either.
post #104 of 179

Sorry, haters, the iPhone 5 is the fastest phone around with the most advanced architecture in an SoC.

 

Next gen processors? They are already here. The iPhone 5 even beats the newest Snapdragon S4 Pro. In case you're wondering the S4 Pro has four Krait cores clocked at 1.5-1.7GHz (where the regular S4 has two cores) and has the latest Adreno 320 GPU. And even with with twice the cores and being clocked 50% faster the iPhone 5 still beats them in Sunspider and Browsermark.

 

In the "synthetic" Geekbench, the newest S4 Pro come in at 1,750-1,800, so it's slightly faster than the iPhone 5.

 

In GLBench for graphics, there are two S4 Pro's listed. One has numbers slightly slower than the iPhone 5 and the other is slightly faster. The LG phone that was slower is clocked at 1.5GHz. No clock is given for the faster phone, but the S4 Pro can go to 1.7GHz (according to Qualcomm), and considering the difference in numbers it's very likely this phone is running at 1.7GHz.

 

So it takes the next gen processors four cores and 1.7GHz to finally unseat the iPhone 5. Wow, that S4 Pro is one heck of a processor. /S/S/S/S/S/S

 

 

And we haven't even gotten to power consumption yet. :)

 

 

EDIT: Xiaomi claims their S4 Pro is in fact clocked at 1.5GHz, so not sure why they benchmark faster than others.

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post #105 of 179
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I upgraded my wife's 4 to iOS 6 and left mine at 5.1.1.  I went outside to get decent GPS signals, brought up the maps app on both, and had both phones plot directions to the local mall.  iOS 6/Apple maps routed the course via roads that no longer exist, iOS 5.1.1 routed me via roads that exist.  I didn't find that acceptable.  Dick.

First off why do you need GPS to get to the Mall? Second keeping databases updated for GPS systems is an ongoing problem that all GPS systems suffer from. There is an expectation that people make rational evaluations of the routes offered up to make sure they jive with reality.

Apples Maps certainly has issues, that can't be denied, but coming up with artificial tests and then declaring the software useless is garbage. There isn't a GPS system out there that is 100% accurate, this simple due to time lag in many cases.
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I love how AI forum goers can troll themselves in the absence of real trolls.

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Originally Posted by RichL View Post
I love how AI forum goers can troll themselves in the absence of real trolls.

 

I love how you think there's an "absence" of trolls…

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post #108 of 179
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

 

Unfortunately, we've been at it a bit longer than you:

 

 

And yet, you have so little to show for it. 

 

For you folks watching the show from home, please enjoy the double entendre.

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Say hello to Jelly Bean.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1026099
S3 Geekbench score 1781.
And all that all with the disadvantage of the bigger screen.
The rest will follow.

 

...and only 888Mb of RAM.

 

What happened to the rest?

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First off why do you need GPS to get to the Mall? Second keeping databases updated for GPS systems is an ongoing problem that all GPS systems suffer from. There is an expectation that people make rational evaluations of the routes offered up to make sure they jive with reality.
Apples Maps certainly has issues, that can't be denied, but coming up with artificial tests and then declaring the software useless is garbage. There isn't a GPS system out there that is 100% accurate, this simple due to time lag in many cases.


It called a test case/scenario, something Apple should have used more before they replaced a less-then-perfect mapping application with a clearly inferior substitute.

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What fear?  I just don't like paying top dollar for a phone that doesn't work as well as it should -- and I don't like getting lost.

So far, the phone works as advertised. Maps works, has some kinks but so far so good. If you're that dependent on a maps program without getting lost, consider a regular phone and an atlas!

 

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It called a test case/scenario, something Apple should have used more before they replaced a less-then-perfect mapping application with a clearly inferior substitute.

Apple made the right choice in ditching google maps.
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 Stolen JVM? Didn't a jury find Google not guilty?

not guilty is not the same as innocent!

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Originally Posted by jmc54 View Post
not guilty is not the same as innocent!

 

Though that IS the definition of innocent, you're right in that courts often get things wrong.

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post #115 of 179
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...and only 888Mb of RAM.

What happened to the rest?

You're missing out on half the fun of Android. They can name a phone something like the Galaxy SIII, but that still doesn't tell you what the phone is. Different processors, different amounts of RAM and no way of knowing without checking.

Add that to the "what version of Android did my brand new phone come with" and "what are the chances that I'll ever be able to upgrade the OS on my phone or get security patches" and it's a world of fun.
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...and only 888Mb of RAM.

What happened to the rest?

The International version only has the 1GB RAM, not 2GB like the other variations. It's also one of the two that has the quad-core Cortex-A9 but I think it's built on the 45nm process so it's very power hungry. I'd rather take the dual-core Krait — essential Cortex-A9 but with many aspects coming to Cortex-A15, not unlike the iPhone 5's A6 — but without al the crap that T-Mobile, AT&T, et al. have added to it the ROM to slow it down.

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Apple made the right choice in ditching google maps.

I agree with this, but I don't agree with the time in which they did it or their seemingly lack of interest in any StreetView-like feature.

Note: I was recorded in line yesterday for the iPhone by a NAVTEQ car. I could see Apple simply licensing their tech instead of doing their own even though they surely could have with ease. It's not like we didn't know about Apple's Maps plans years ago.


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While it is indeed interesting stuff, it doesn't really sell me the phone as it's full of compromises and no meaningful advantages (but some meaningful disadvantages) compared to the 4S.

Regarding the ability to remove the battery, if you can't see a use for that, you're extremely narrow minded. The irreplaceable battery is a shortcoming on any phone, as it prevents people from carrying extra fully charged battery replacements. While there are third-party accessories in the market to partially address this issue (on the iPhone 4/4S only), those accessories address the issue in an extremely inefficient way, since a lot of power is lost to charge the main battery of the phone.
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It really is very snappy. My 2 year-old 4 with 5 is kind of pokey, but the 5 with 6 is a screaming 10!

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post #119 of 179
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It really is very snappy. My 2 year-old 4 with 5 is kind of pokey, but the 5 with 6 is a screaming 10!

Even on the iPhone 4 the new Maps is snappier. It wasn't at first on my iPhone 4. I think it was beta 3(?) that really sped it up.

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Apple made the right choice in ditching google maps.


Ditching Google is right on so many levels for Apple.  The timing of the Maps replacement was just plain poor/rushed.  The problems with Maps will all be worked out soon, and many Android fans will still be waiting for their ICS upgrade that may never come.

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