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post #41 of 139
Yeah, this reeks of troll bait. While I'll concede that these ads aren't as brilliant as the I'm a Mac--I'm a PC ads, they effectively show off the phone's new features.

Of course, I was one of the few people that liked the Genius ads too. I thought they showed off the fact that Apple offers free assistance and classes to its customers while the competition doesn't.

 

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Wow! These are horrible in a way that I never thought possible from Apple. Yikes! Apple -- pull these down like the "Genius" batch. I never make comments here -- I think the last time was like 10 years ago -- these adds are so bad so bad I had to figure out my Appleinsider account info to share my disgust. YUCK!
post #42 of 139
I think every one of them is great! Apple has had different, but great ads in the past. And I think these are great, in a new way.

They DO show off the product well, along with being humorous, a bit thought provoking, and generally draw the person in to watch the entire advertisement and become part of the "scene". They draw you in. The "old" ads did a great job of explaining the features. These explain some of the features, and draw you into the experience, in my opinion.

Great job!
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I like the Thumb idea. I like they demoed the panorama and explained the EarPods ads. I dislike the physics one.

Overall, I would say they are making them feel like they are trying to attract a dumber crowd with the way they speak to the viewer but perhaps that's needed after more than 5 year and having already attracted all the intelligent, attractive people.

 

What? I totally think the opposite of you on the "Overall..." synopsis, Solip, and I generally agree with most of what you have to say. Sorry. :-/

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EDIT: Yeah, you guys think everything sucks. 

 


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post #45 of 139
I keep hearing that these ads are pretentious. But the only thing that seems pretentious to me these days are certain Apple fans that rip everything Apple does. And chime in with their obligatory "Steve would never have allowed this" crap.
post #46 of 139
crisp new ads yo!
post #47 of 139
I think Apple should emphasize the one-handed operations. I mean, how many times do we need to take a picture with just one hand?
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You guys do know that if you agree with Apple on this whole thumb nonsense, you are agreeing that 4" display is the only way to go, thus any new iPhone will always be 4 inch display, and there will never be a redesign... ever (Aside from outer hardware which does absolutely NOTHING in terms of functionality, which is the reason why people buy smartphones in the first place).

 

But of course, we all know this is just them trying to make the competition look foolish, and in 2 years when they increase the screen size they'll say "We have found that 4.5 inches, while it can be slightly difficult for the minority of iPhone users, most user are quite capable of using the iPhone with 1 thumb using a 4.5 inch display."

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The average Android smartphone user has fingers that stretch a lot further than iPhone users. That's why they're so comfortable using 4.8" and larger displays. You ever see the length of the fingers on a chimpanzee?
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All superb. Pithy, funny, attention-grabbing, and with an attitude

Nice to see Apple getting some mojo/punch back in its advertising.
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Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (inhale) eeeeeeeeeese!


That seems longer than the real panorama mode. I can smell a class action suit coming ;)

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What? I totally think the opposite of you on the "Overall..." synopsis, Solip, and I generally agree with most of what you have to say. Sorry. :-/


"How can something be bigger and smaller?" just sounds like a brain teaser I might ask an 8yo, hence by dislike for it. I don't think my other ad comments need further explanation. What are your thoughts on each ad?


PS: It's OK to disagree. I usually agree with you but I'm quite content to know that your PoV is vastly different because I know you've thought about your response instead of making knee-jerk reaction.

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post #53 of 139

The panoroma ad is classic Apple - show it in action without mentioning the word panorama (so unlike Samsung's ad, which practically spells out panorama). As for the thumb and physics ads, they are pointing out design features and may even seem defensive.

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You guys do know that if you agree with Apple on this whole thumb nonsense, you are agreeing that 4" display is the only way to go, thus any new iPhone will always be 4 inch display, and there will never be a redesign... ever (Aside from outer hardware which does absolutely NOTHING in terms of functionality, which is the reason why people buy smartphones in the first place).

But of course, we all know this is just them trying to make the competition look foolish, and in 2 years when they increase the screen size they'll say "We have found that 4.5 inches, while it can be slightly difficult for the minority of iPhone users, most user are quite capable of using the iPhone with 1 thumb using a 4.5 inch display."

I don't know about these ads. The marveling kid within me has died a long time ago. On the other hand, I absolutely dig that marvelously informative Galaxy S3 ad. It touches upon the anthropological, sociological, and technological dimensions of life in the trenches.

So much so, ...that it got me to stand in line to buy one of 'em beauties yesterday. And what a marketing strategy to sell them at an Apple Store, tucked within a handier shell, with the Apple logo on the back ! Hats off, ...these guys at Samsung are brilliant.
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You guys do know that if you agree with Apple on this whole thumb nonsense, you are agreeing that 4" display is the only way to go, thus any new iPhone will always be 4 inch display, and there will never be a redesign... ever (Aside from outer hardware which does absolutely NOTHING in terms of functionality, which is the reason why people buy smartphones in the first place).

But of course, we all know this is just them trying to make the competition look foolish, and in 2 years when they increase the screen size they'll say "We have found that 4.5 inches, while it can be slightly difficult for the minority of iPhone users, most user are quite capable of using the iPhone with 1 thumb using a 4.5 inch display."

Who says Apple will ever have a 4.5" display? Personally I think the bigger is better meme will die out. Especially if battery technology improves to where you don't need a humongous battery to get great battery life. Did Android OEM's really make bigger screen phones because they thought they were better or because they're slaves to the telecoms and you need a bigger battery with LTE? Ultimately the sales figures will tell us the real truth, If a bigger screen is THAT important to people iPhone sales will drop off. So far based on pre-sales figures that isn't happening.

To me design is about a lot more than screen size. While the Galaxy S3 got great reviews for many things, design wasn't one of them. And Nokia? They've been using the same basic design on their phones for a while now. N90. Lumia 800, 900 and 920 all look basically the same except for the screen size getting bigger. Plus the new HTC Windows Phone 8 phones look just like the Lumia's (Nokia even commented on it).
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... But of course, we all know this is just them trying to make the competition look foolish, and in 2 years when they increase the screen size they'll say ...

 

I can't believe that anyone is silly enough to believe this.  You have a twisted view of the world.

I bet you are one of those "everything is a conspiracy" people, right?  

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Originally Posted by natesf View Post
Wow! These are horrible in a way that I never thought possible from Apple. Yikes! Apple -- pull these down like the "Genius" batch. I never make comments here -- I think the last time was like 10 years ago -- these adds are so bad so bad I had to figure out my Appleinsider account info to share my disgust. YUCK!

 

 

You were saying?


Originally Posted by mrrodriguez View Post
You guys do know that if you agree with Apple on this whole thumb nonsense, you are agreeing that 4" display is the only way to go, thus any new iPhone will always be 4 inch display, and there will never be a redesign... ever 

 

You do know that you've just exposed yourself in a way worse than nudity, right?


(Aside from outer hardware which does absolutely NOTHING in terms of functionality, which is the reason why people buy smartphones in the first place).

 

YOU HEAR THAT, FANDROIDS? YOU BUY PHONES BECAUSE OF FUNCTIONALITY. ONE OF YOUR OWN SAID SO. SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR DIDDLY ABOUT PHONE DESIGN ANYMORE, CAPISCHE? 


But of course, we all know this is just them trying to make the competition look foolish

 

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post #58 of 139
I find it strange that after Apple dumped the integrated YouTube app with my 50 favorites selected over the years, that they either put or allow their commercials to play & be watched on Google's YouTube. Maybe it's an in-your-face to Google, or an oversight, giving Google ad revenues every time some the Apple commercials play, attracting millions of viewers worldwide. Why not put them on Vimeo? I have no favorites there.
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I find it strange that after Apple dumped the integrated YouTube app with my 50 favorites selected over the years, that they either put or allow their commercials to play & be watched on Google's YouTube. Maybe it's an in-your-face to Google, or an oversight, giving Google ad revenues every time some the Apple commercials play, attracting millions of viewers worldwide. Why not put them on Vimeo? I have no favorites there.
The old YouTube app sucked. There's a new one already available for iPhone and I'm sure google will have one for iPad too.
post #60 of 139

Couldn't agree more. I love them and think they are all Very effective. The subtle "apple-esque" music in the background is charming. JD's voice is perfectly suited for Apple ads, sincere with a tinge of snarky. 

post #61 of 139
Very good, in my opinion.
Interesting. To the point. Lighthearted.
Perfect to win NEW customers.
post #62 of 139
They try too hard to be funny.

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I don't know.  A whole advert to trumpet a less than 1.7mm difference in thickness?  It's kind of ridiculous isn't it?  It plays like a bad SNL satire.  

It is smaller and lighter, but instead of focussing on all the dimensions (weight, volume, etc.), they just keep turning it sideways and going "see! ... thinner!!!!"
Slightly lame if you ask me. 

Love the rest though. 


You're missing the point. For people who already have an iPhone, no ad is going to make much difference. They'll look at the new one when they're ready to buy.

For people who don't have an iphone, what are they going to compare it to? Their existing phone. Or the latest Samsung/htc/motorola/nokia monstrosity that their friends have. In that case, the thinness and lightness of the iPhone 5 will be apparent. It won't be a 1.7 mm difference.
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I don't know.  A whole advert to trumpet a less than 1.7mm difference in thickness?  It's kind of ridiculous isn't it?  It plays like a bad SNL satire.  

It is smaller and lighter, but instead of focussing on all the dimensions (weight, volume, etc.), they just keep turning it sideways and going "see! ... thinner!!!!"
Slightly lame if you ask me. 

Love the rest though. 

We talk about going from 45 to 32 nanometers as a significant jump but we're only talking about a difference of 13 billionth of a meter smaller and yet it's a major engineering feat.

Same goes for the iPhone. It's volume is smaller overall and yet it has a bigger screen, LTE with battery life that is as much as battery life with 3G, much better processing specs, etc. It's a major achievement in the realm of consumer electronics. If we're talking aircraft carriers then 1.7mm is surely less than the expansion/contraction variance between hot and cold weather.

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post #65 of 139
Thumb is brilliant in it's simplicity. Samsung's one major obvious differentiator reduced to a pathetic design flaw. Well done.
post #66 of 139
Much better than the last ads. These are back to basics. They tell a clear story and demonstrate the features that make the newest iPhone great.
post #67 of 139

When a competitor says ridiculous claims (the importance and benefit of a bigger screen) against your product, you shouldn't go after and respond that trying to justify your decision. It can seem that you gave credit to his words.

By the way, I was just wondering how many people type with their left hand thumb?

The panorama ad is nice but I'm curious about how it works when the objects/people are moving during the shooting process.

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Originally Posted by mac-user View Post
When a competitor says ridiculous claims (the importance and benefit of a bigger screen) against your product, you shouldn't go after and respond that trying to justify your decision. It can seem that you gave credit to his words.

 

Uh, did you watch the commercial?


By the way, I was just wondering how many people type with their left hand thumb?

 

Ten percent.

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post #69 of 139
Cheese is very good. Thumbs isn't bad either. No idea if they will get ripped on or win people over, but my subjective taste is that I would rather see these than the crap that usually passes for ads.
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Ten percent.

The populace being naturally right-handed doesn't mean you only use your devices on the right. I always wore watches on my left wrist and I use my iPhone primary with my left hand when one-handed because it frees up my right for other tasks. I am right handed.

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When a competitor says ridiculous claims (the importance and benefit of a bigger screen) against your product, you shouldn't go after and respond that trying to justify your decision. It can seem that you gave credit to his words.

They are pointing a fact that I doubt most would consider. I don't think most readers of this site even considered it until it was presented to them. I've certainly been beating that horse since Android phones became unwieldily.
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By the way, I was just wondering how many people type with their left hand thumb?

Primary usage, but it doesn't change the ad's message if most use yet right hand.
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The panorama ad is nice but I'm curious about how it works when the objects/people are moving during the shooting process.

It takes snapshots so the are still. You can have someone jump around through it of they are fast enough or go behind as they demoed during the event.

I don't think it's the same 8 Mpx quality as normal stills. It might be a collection of stills from video in the manner as manual stills taking during video recording is performed.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
The populace being naturally right-handed doesn't mean you only use your devices on the right. I always wore watches on my left wrist and I use my iPhone primary with my left hand when one-handed because it frees up my right for other tasks. I am right handed.

 

I was taught that, being right-handed, you're supposed to do that… I've never worn a watch on my right.

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Uh, did you watch the commercial?

Yeah, I did. I know it can also be understood as it tells why the screen being taller is better, comparing to the last iPhone, but my first thought was as a response of not being bigger, as it shows the limits of the fingers. Anyway, I can be wrong.

And about the right or left hand...

that's why I was wondering as not only left-handed can have this habit, if we speak about holding the phone with the left, and touching with your right hand finger for input, as a right-handed. Although, typing with thumb I would do it with my right hand as I'm right-handed.

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When a competitor says ridiculous claims (the importance and benefit of a bigger screen) against your product, you shouldn't go after and respond that trying to justify your decision. It can seem that you gave credit to his words.


By the way, I was just wondering how many people type with their left hand thumb?


The panorama ad is nice but I'm curious about how it works when the objects/people are moving during the shooting process.

I dunno what planet you're from, but Thumbs ad was clever in that it implied (without specifically calling attention to) those giant competitor screens just being large for the sake of specs oneupmanship without regard to the users' needs.

And I type, scroll, and gesture with my left thumb. You wanna make something of it?
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post #74 of 139
It's great to see Apple return to these type of ads. They are simple - each focusing on one particular aspect of their amazing new iPhone. A stark contrast to Samsung, who falsely stereotypes Apple customers as clueless hipsters in a desperate attempt to dissuade people who will be drawn to the iPhone for these features.

Well done Apple, and thanks for taking the high road.
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Smart and classy Ads.
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They try too hard to be funny.

I completely agree, and cool sig!

I hate to bash on two Apple ad attempts in a row (these and the genius ones), but I still can't like these ads. The great thing about the justin long get a Mac ads were that they were funny, while at the same time giving the sense of not trying too hard. These ads, by trying too hard, send an implicit message that they need to try hard, which they don't! Just show the product/service in action! The MB Pro Retina ad was great in this respect. These iPhone ads aren't right, and they seem like ads that would appeal to the executives at apple (whom I respect and admire), but not the general public. Excitement is universal and works great, cuteness is definitely not. They say the iPhone is the only thing that can excite a 13 yo girl and a CEO executive. They should play to that.

I'm mostly talking about the thumb and thinness ones; the ear pod and panorama ones are ok.

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I dunno what planet you're from, but Thumbs ad was clever in that it implied (without specifically calling attention to) those giant competitor screens just being large for the sake of specs oneupmanship without regard to the users' needs.
And I type, scroll, and gesture with my left thumb. You wanna make something of it?

I'm from a planet where the size of the hand varies between people, so communicating that one is the right size (for most) is just silly, a weak argument.
The problem is, not only in the ads but during the keynote as well, they seemed not so confident about their decisions, it seemed to me a bit forced when they tried to point out how whatever characteristic is so fantastic and the right way to do. I think as people either hated or loved Steve Jobs' personality he could look at the audience and convince them about what he thought was right, or at least you could believe that he really believed it. He normally either didn't give a sh*t (at least in public) about what the competitors said or had a very clever answer to that, and doesn't matter whether he was right, he knew how to fight back with his sarcasm. That confidence is what I miss at Apple these days. When people choose what they believe in and don't change their mind just to go after the louder crowd.*
(I felt terrible listening to the intonation of Tim Cook, how he was acting on stage every time he presented a winner number. I prefer Phil Schiller introducing anything, 'cause he doesn't seem acting so much, and he could be even more authentic if didn't try to use Steve's famous superlatives too often)

about the left hand:
I think it happened because in these ads they used the same person who in the other two ads holds the phone with the left hand and type with the fingers of the right, how most right-handed probably do.

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*or don't seem being ashamed of their own decisions.


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We talk about going from 45 to 32 nanometers as a significant jump but we're only talking about a difference of 13 billionth of a meter smaller and yet it's a major engineering feat.
Same goes for the iPhone. It's volume is smaller overall and yet it has a bigger screen, LTE with battery life that is as much as battery life with 3G, much better processing specs, etc. It's a major achievement in the realm of consumer electronics. If we're talking aircraft carriers then 1.7mm is surely less than the expansion/contraction variance between hot and cold weather.

 

I just meant that it read to me like a satire because it's an entire ad touting a very minor aspect/feature of the phone and they even repeat themselves in the ad a few times.  It's like having a whole ad about the fact that it has a power button.  

 

The phone is lighter, thinner, smaller volume etc. and all of those together are an impressive achievement, but the ad doesn't talk about that.  The ad basically just says "longer screen, but thinner!!!" As if it was some kind of engineering marvel that the phone was a tiny bit thinner, but also longer.  

 

I don't think it conveys (at least to me), the message they intended to.  

 

IMO a better ad would be people gushing over how light and thin it is when it's handed to them for the first time and letting the audience know that it's lighter, thinner, and smaller all around.  Then have the kicker at the end say that it actually has a bigger screen.   I just find the way that they turn the iPhone edgewise to the camera as if to say "look! thinner!!" is silly.  The average person will look at that and go ... "It's slightly thinner. So what?"  

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I just meant that it read to me like a satire because it's an entire ad touting a very minor aspect/feature of the phone and they even repeat themselves in the ad a few times.  It's like having a whole ad about the fact that it has a power button.  

The phone is lighter, thinner, smaller volume etc. and all of those together are an impressive achievement, but the ad doesn't talk about that.  The ad basically just says "longer screen, but thinner!!!" As if it was some kind of engineering marvel that the phone was a tiny bit thinner, but also longer.  

I don't think it conveys (at least to me), the message they intended to.  

IMO a better ad would be people gushing over how light and thin it is when it's handed to them for the first time and letting the audience know that it's lighter, thinner, and smaller all around.  Then have the kicker at the end say that it actually has a bigger screen.   I just find the way that they turn the iPhone edgewise to the camera as if to say "look! thinner!!" is silly.  The average person will look at that and go ... "It's slightly thinner. So what?"  

I think we're on the same page but look at it from different angles which is why I agree with your observations but think it just makes them look like ads for less a less intelligent crowd, at least in the realm of spacial recognition and technology.

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