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Apple on Monday updated its Apple TV set-top box to software version 5.1, adding support for Shared Photo Streams, and the ability to send audio content from the Apple TV to AirPlay-enabled speakers and devices including the AirPort Express.

Users can now download Apple TV Software Update 5.1 by going into the Settings section of the device, choosing General, and then selecting Update Software. The full list of changes in the update, as detailed by Apple, are:
  • Shared Photo Streams: Accept invitations for Shared Photo Streams, browse photos and comments, and receive notifications of new content.
  • AirPlay: Send audio content from Apple TV to AirPlay-enabled speakers and devices (including AirPort Express and other Apple TVs). Also includes the ability to require an onscreen code to use AirPlay with your Apple TV.
  • iTunes account switching: Save multiple iTunes accounts and switch quickly between them.
  • Trailers: Search movie trailers. In the United States, see show times for local theaters.
  • Screen savers: New Cascade, Shrinking Tiles, and Sliding Panels screen savers.
  • Main menu: Reorder icons on the second page by holding down the select button on the remote.
  • Subtitles: SDH support for the deaf and hard-of-hearing as well as improvements to viewing and selecting subtitles.
  • Network configuration: Support for setting up advanced network options using configuration profiles.
  • Stability and performance: Includes general performance and stability improvements.
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Reorder home screen icons! FINALLY! WIN!!! 1biggrin.gif

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What a waste of a good piece of hardware. When will they add app support????
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Originally Posted by Avonord View Post
What a waste of a good piece of hardware. When will they add app support????

 

Right after people realize that's not what the device is for and that "apps" as you know them shouldn't be on it.

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Main menu— Reorder icons on the second page by holding down the select button on the remote.

FINALLY.

 

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What a waste of a good piece of hardware. When will they add app support????

Probably in the next hardware revision.

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Hm. Nice update, but still waiting for a way to set up an ad-hoc WLAN. The Apple TV would be ideal in the travel bag, if I could just use AirPlay in hotels without lugging around an additional Airport, give presentations with just an Apple TV and an iPad, even if the client's or institute's WLAN or firewall gets in the way...
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so still no BBC iPlayer in the UK? I don't want to use it via AirPlay - that's two devices
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What a waste of a good piece of hardware. When will they add app support????

you can already run apps on it

they are on your iphone, ipad or itouch

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What a waste of a good piece of hardware. When will they add app support????

 

Right after people realize that's not what the device is for and that "apps" as you know them shouldn't be on it.

 

 

agree with Tallest Skil.  Apple is changing the frame of reference for game devices... the  controller is the game device.  AppleTV is just a 'smart media switcher' and 'game visuals' are just an 'input.    

 

It may be a waste of HW now... but look at it compared to a Cable Box (dumb media switcher).  

 

The key to AppleTV is getting media feeds to match it's smartness. and in that regard, Apps on AppleTV are like HTML5 on an iPhone/iPad, a stopgap measure until you are totally 'native' in the AppleTV environment.

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What a waste of a good piece of hardware. When will they add app support????

 

ATV apps would hurt the iOS ecosystem. It seems like a good idea at first, but really it isn't. The type of interaction optimal to a large screen and a basic remote control is completely different than handheld multi-touch devices. Developers would try to shoe-horn iOS apps onto the platform and they wouldn't work that well.

 

Apple is doing this right. The video extender should have very little functionality. Sophisticated interaction is better kept on devices with more sophisticated input hardware.

 

Seriously, if you haven't tried it sometime, hang out with a group of iOS toting friends in an ATV equipped home theater. AirPlay and everyone having their own screen for interaction, is awesome. It becomes immediately obvious that remote controls and channel surfing are stone age technology as compared to a handheld device airplaying to a big screen.

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I'd like to be able to access my music without iTunes Match, the same way I can ready access movies and tv shows. Or adding Spotify access would be nice. Have to agree with dreyfus2 though... ad-hoc networking would be nice. Would it work to just set up a hotspot on iPhone and connect ATV to that, or would that still somehow use cell data even if the content was stored on the iPhone? Hadn't thought to try that yet.
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Originally Posted by Avonord View Post
What a waste of a good piece of hardware. When will they add app support????

 

Right after people realize that's not what the device is for and that "apps" as you know them shouldn't be on it.

 

While I agree that most apps don't have a place on an Apple TV, I believe it would be great if different media providers could offer their services on it. Hulu Plus, You Tube and Netflix are available right now. Others have mentioned BBC iPlayer. I own both a Roku and Apple TV and things like Crackle.com, etc would be nice.

 

Even if all they want to do is demand access with HTML5 and you can save websites as icons then that would still require adding something beyond what they have now.

 

Apple TV is still a hobby but a couple more pieces might making it amazing and give it a huge lead.

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I'd like to be able to access my music without iTunes Match, the same way I can ready access movies and tv shows. Or adding Spotify access would be nice. Have to agree with dreyfus2 though... ad-hoc networking would be nice. Would it work to just set up a hotspot on iPhone and connect ATV to that, or would that still somehow use cell data even if the content was stored on the iPhone? Hadn't thought to try that yet.

ditto on iTunes.  I would also like a browser that would allow me to search for and stream from other sources.  Most TV stations will now stream the popular shows a day or two after they are first broadcast.  I currently use a mac mini for this purpose but that is a waste of hardware.

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I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what most people want from "apps" on the Apple TV, hence the it's a stupid idea comments.

It is highly frustrating for those that don't live in America and so do not have access to Netflix & Hulu. As many have said the UK is a year example in terms of BBC iPlayer.

Apps that allow additional functionality in terms of adding Iplayer support is desperately needed, using the Iplayer app on the iPhone to deliver unoptimised video to the Apple TV is counter productive.

Look at how sucessful the Netflix app is. People, especially those who are not American and so are more affected want this.
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You can add apps to Apple TV right now. It's called iOS Airplay screen sharing ;-)

 

Some people might think it's dull that you buy an iPhone just to get more out of your apple tv, but trust me it's worth it.


Edited by enjourni - 9/24/12 at 1:22pm
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How do I put the ATV into sleep now, used to be hold down select, this now reorders icons.
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Anyone know if they fixed the Home Sharing/Mountain Lion issue that basically broke the Apple TV for a bunch of people.  I spent another hour or so this weekend trying to get it work (it worked find before Mountain Lion came into my house) to no avail.  There are lots of posts on Apple's support site with no one posting any solutions.  The problem is that my iDevices no longer see my Apple TV and my Apple TV can't get any content from my mac (any of my macs) no matter how many time I reset my Apple TV and turn Home Sharing off and on (and turn my firewalls off).  It's a very "unApple" experience.  It just doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by enjourni View Post
You can add apps to Apple TV right now. It's call iOS Airplay screen sharing ;-)

 

No wink needed. That's the only way that apps should be on the Apple TV.

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If you can get an Apple TV 2 the ideal setup is to jailbreak it, install aTV black, and get a home media server like a Synology. I store all my content on the Synology and everything streams to the Apple TV via AFP.

 

Why Apple TV 2? Because ATV 3 can't get an untethered jailbreak yet.

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There's a reason why a used ATV 2 is selling more than twice of a new ATV 3.

 

Apple is not unlocking the potential of ATV because they can't monetize that potential, that's all. It's just a matter of time before Apple can figure out how to make money out of it then they'll add apps.

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Right after people realize that's not what the device is for and that "apps" as you know them shouldn't be on it.

I see what you are getting at but still have to disagree. At least allow a browser app for God's sake. 

 

Also, for those of us that have iPhone 4 still, you can't use airplay even though I have the latest Apple TV. This is another reason apps SHOULD be on ATV.

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Originally Posted by faZZter View Post
I see what you are getting at but still have to disagree. At least allow a browser app for God's sake. 

 

AirPlay. The '80s and '90s showed us that no one really wants to browse the Internet with their TV.

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Anyone know if they fixed the Home Sharing/Mountain Lion issue that basically broke the Apple TV for a bunch of people.  I spent another hour or so this weekend trying to get it work (it worked find before Mountain Lion came into my house) to no avail.  There are lots of posts on Apple's support site with no one posting any solutions.  The problem is that my iDevices no longer see my Apple TV and my Apple TV can't get any content from my mac (any of my macs) no matter how many time I reset my Apple TV and turn Home Sharing off and on (and turn my firewalls off).  It's a very "unApple" experience.  It just doesn't work.

 

I have just this problem with 10.8.2. It broke my Apple TV in that it can no longer see my two computers or any content on them. I'm downloading the Apple TV update now hoping that it is going to fix this problem.

 

 

EDIT: the problem is now fixed with this update.

 

EDITED AGAIN!: Now content is being very slow to stream. I will have to test it again later, but for the moment Home Sharing is working but the content is not being transferred fast enough to view. It is timing out.


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I'd like to be able to access my music without iTunes Match, the same way I can ready access movies and tv shows. Or adding Spotify access would be nice. Have to agree with dreyfus2 though... ad-hoc networking would be nice. Would it work to just set up a hotspot on iPhone and connect ATV to that, or would that still somehow use cell data even if the content was stored on the iPhone? Hadn't thought to try that yet.

You don't need iTunes Match to access your music on ATV.  Turn on your Mac and launch iTunes.  Use the Computer menu item to access all the media on your Mac.

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Anyone know if they fixed the Home Sharing/Mountain Lion issue that basically broke the Apple TV for a bunch of people.  I spent another hour or so this weekend trying to get it work (it worked find before Mountain Lion came into my house) to no avail.  There are lots of posts on Apple's support site with no one posting any solutions.  The problem is that my iDevices no longer see my Apple TV and my Apple TV can't get any content from my mac (any of my macs) no matter how many time I reset my Apple TV and turn Home Sharing off and on (and turn my firewalls off).  It's a very "unApple" experience.  It just doesn't work.

I have no problems at all with Mountain Lion and Home Sharing with the ATV.  The last AppleTV update fixed the Home Sharing bug.

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I see what you are getting at but still have to disagree. At least allow a browser app for God's sake. 

 

Also, for those of us that have iPhone 4 still, you can't use airplay even though I have the latest Apple TV. This is another reason apps SHOULD be on ATV.

Wrong.  The AppleTV is not a computer, nor is it a web browser.  It is for media content.  Buy a 2011 Mac and use AirPlay, or just buy a Mac Mini and connect it to your TV if you really want to browse the internet on your TV instead of your Mac.  Buy an iPad and do the same thing.

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I'm waiting for the Apple TV Podcast app that supports iCloud subscription tracking like the iOS app...
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This is a great update. I can actually do something with this.

I wanted to setup AppleTV in our bedroom without getting a new HDMI ready screen. However this means using a monitor with HDMI to DVI convertor cable which doesn't have the sound.

I looked at stereos that have Toslink connectors and they were all too expensive for what I wanted to do.

Now that I can use AirPlay to AirPlay speakers I can do this cheaper.
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The Apple TV uses the same wireless chip found in the iPhone 5. I know that this chip supports Bluetooth 5, dual band wi-Fi b/g/n, and hot spots. So, it's a matter of time if they decide to unlock it for its full capability.
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Does anyone know if HDMI features are chip based or software based?

Because it would be great if they added support for 7.1 uncompressed audio over HDMI, Dolby Digital HD support, as well as DTS Master Studio support. For the SPDIF, they could add Dolby Digital Plus support. I know they would have to license these for Dolby and DTS and Apple is often hesitant about licensing stuff (ie Adobe Flash, Sun JAVA, DivX, etc.), but every Blu-ray player manufacture licenses these (not sure if these codecs are included with the Blu-ray license) and Microsoft has licensed Dolby Digital Plus for Windows Media Center...

Also, I would like to see support for CEC on HDMI devices. CEC would allow the Apple TV to send commands to any device connected to it via HMDI to control it. For example, TV commands POWER ON/POWER OFF, audio receiver commands VOLUME UP/VOLUME DOWN, etc. An Apple implementation of these commands could bring an Apple-style level of automated conveniences for Apple TV!
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Accept invitations for Shared Photo Streams, browse photos and comments, and receive notifications of new content.
 

 

Ok I give up, how do you invite some one to share your Photo Stream?  Is this a Mountain Lion thing?  I don't see where to send an invitation.

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I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what most people want from "apps" on the Apple TV, hence the it's a stupid idea comments.

It is highly frustrating for those that don't live in America and so do not have access to Netflix & Hulu. As many have said the UK is a year example in terms of BBC iPlayer.

Apps that allow additional functionality in terms of adding Iplayer support is desperately needed, using the Iplayer app on the iPhone to deliver unoptimised video to the Apple TV is counter productive.

Look at how sucessful the Netflix app is. People, especially those who are not American and so are more affected want this.

 

It sounds like the root desire is access to more content. Apps are not the answer. Licensing deals are the answer.

 

Apps are the absolute worst way of accomplishing access to more content. The last thing consumers want is a million different user interfaces for browsing a list of videos. Have you seen how bad the interfaces are on pretty much every DVR ever made? They're astonishingly bad, even the (relatively) good ones.

 

And that's the thing, with a directional pad remote and living room environment, there really shouldn't be much more sophisticated interaction than simple scrolling of a a list. More sophisticated interaction is better left to devices with more sophisticated input hardware. Handheld and tablet devices with AirPlay are the way forward, not a million different ways of pushing up/down/left/right to access content.

 

Can you imagine if every movie studio had a different user interface within netflix. It would be shear madness. And the same is true for most types of content on the ATV.

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Wrong.  The AppleTV is not a computer, nor is it a web browser.  It is for media content.  Buy a 2011 Mac and use AirPlay, or just buy a Mac Mini and connect it to your TV if you really want to browse the internet on your TV instead of your Mac.  Buy an iPad and do the same thing.

You can say "wrong" all you want, but I still say a browser for the ATV and apps makes sense. It has more than enough computing power to run a browser. 

 

Besides that, what is your definition of a computer? iPad? iPhone? Do they count? They both have way more power than "computers" from just ten years ago.

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You don't need iTunes Match to access your music on ATV.  Turn on your Mac and launch iTunes.  Use the Computer menu item to access all the media on your Mac.

Maybe that works for you, but I am running iTunes on a Windows machine and it just does not work very well in fact hardly at all. The jailbreakers have shown that the ATV is perfectly capable of accessing media directly.  Why should I have to run another machine just to access networked or internet available media?

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How do I put the ATV into sleep now, used to be hold down select, this now reorders icons.

That's what I was wondering, too. The only way I've found is to go to General and select 'Sleep Now'. That's far more clumsy than how Apple usually does things.

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HOLY $%&#! APPLE QUIETLY UPDATED APPLETV'S YOUTUBE APP!

 

Has anyone else noticed the changes in AppleTV update 5.1 to the YouTube app? Finally, the Watch Later list appears!

 

This has been one of my biggest complaints with the app since launch. Of all the features to omit, Watch Later seemed particularly cruel. I mean, what's a more likely scenario than finding a video on YouTube at the office and wanting to watch it later on TV when you get home? Until this revision, you could access your subscriptions, uploaded videos, and other playlists, but alas, your Watch Later list was nowhere to be found. The workaround was to create a separate "Watch on AppleTV" playlist and add videos to it instead. But, this was incredibly clunky, especially since unlike YouTube's Watch Later feature, adding to a playlist is only available on the YouTube watch page.

 

Anyway, there was a little discussion about this problem within Apple's support communities here...

https://discussions.apple.com/message/13215198#13215198

 

And that's not the only change to the YouTube app...

 

Apple removed YouTube > History from the latest rev -- probably because the way it worked was confusing. It was hard to tell if the history was local to the AppleTV, or valid across devices. I'm glad they removed it.

 

In the big picture, it's quite surprising to see changes to the YouTube app on AppleTV in light of the removal of Google Maps and the default YouTube app from iOS 6 -- quite inconsistent.

 

But, if you use AppleTV with your YouTube account, the addition of the Watch Later list is greatly appreciated.

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