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All this nonsense about the GS III being so much larger than the iPhone 5 is just borne of ignorance (bias), with little basis in fact.
 

 

looks kinda huge, if you ask me.........

 

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Im not talking about 5" screens (although many users do love these devices to avoid carring multiple devices).  I am talking about the sweet spot of 4.5 to 4.8 in screens.    They are significantly easier to read than the iphones small 3.5 or 4" screen.  Iphone to me is useless primarily due to the aweful screen size.    If you just make phone calls and play angry birds; its fine.  If you want to be productive; the screen is too small.

Respectfully disagree. In a side-by-side test of my 4S and my S IIII, with the same screen showing in the stock browsers, the display on the S III looked yellow and somewhat washed out compared to the display on my 4S. Text was sharper on the 4S and easier to read with better contrast. The display on my iPhone 5 is even better than that.

I'm 56, and have had several eye surgeries in both eyes, so I doubt that I have any vision advantages over anyone here.
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looks kinda huge, if you ask me.........

Well... Good Thing I Didn't. :-)
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post #84 of 110
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Well... Good Thing I Didn't. :-)

 

Selectively quoting again, DaHarder?

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post #85 of 110
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Well... Good Thing I Didn't. :-)

And it's a good thing that most people have two eyes, so that they can see for themselves.

post #86 of 110
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Selectively quoting again, DaHarder?

Hmmm... It appears that among your many other 'issues', you also have no idea what the word 'quoting' means.

Look It Up or refrain from using words you don't understand.
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post #87 of 110
And the most relevant feature is the interface, where Apple is the master. As with the Mac, iPad, iPod and iPhone.
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From the Apple vs Samscum trial we learned that the S3 wasn't selling at all like Samscum was saying it was... 

 

 

 

Can you link to the origonal claims from samung?  can never recall them giving US sales figures, or any sale figures.  

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post #89 of 110
Look I enjoy spirited debate - but sometimes I really wonder with all the spec whoring and interpersonal assaults that inevitably occur wtf the point is.
I mean jeez (insert troll name here) what the hell are you doing here ?
You gain no traction, waste time. For what ?
Really. Go home.
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You've got it the wrong way around. Fandroids have been posting on APPLEinsider for months, pre-and-post-iP5 about how much better the S3 is.
But I think it shows a level of insecurity that you feel obliged to fight back.
Do BMW owners continually diss Toyotas? NO. Because they know that they possess the "Ultimate Driving Machine". It's all about holding the higher moral ground.
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post #91 of 110
Jeez - exactly what I was talking about.
This is an Apple user news site. Now someone chimes in about how insecure we all feel.Roflmao
Hentai really - what do you hope to gain here?
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post #92 of 110
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Hmmm... It appears that among your many other 'issues', you also have no idea what the word 'quoting' means.
Look It Up or refrain from using words you don't understand.

Selectively choosing your sources again, then ;-)

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post #93 of 110
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What cracks me up the most is that the Samsung S III isn't always using THEIR own processor, many of them have a Snapdragon S4.  I wonder why?  Maybe their own chip SUCKS and they are just putting them in some markets hoping that no one will notice the difference.  What's up with that Samsung?

The international version has an Exynos processor. The version in the US uses the S4 due to incompatabilities with LTE. There is no conspiracy here.

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But I think it shows a level of insecurity that you feel obliged to fight back.
Do BMW owners continually diss Toyotas? NO. Because they know that they possess the "Ultimate Driving Machine". It's all about holding the higher moral ground.

And yet, the "Toyota" owners feel a compulsion to troll "BMW" forums. While some of them claim an insecurity of "BMW" owners. You don't think there is a fair amount of hypocrisy in that situation?
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Thank you for showing that you do indeed buy everything on the market, showing that you buy what you want, not necessarily what you'd actually need or be able to reasonably use.

Uh oh, now you've done it… DaHarder is posting pictures again…


Edit: What is that shiny surface that the two phones are sitting on? How come it is exactly the same color and gloss as a Sammy phone? Does Sammy sell matching Fugly tables at IKEA or something?
Edited by Dick Applebaum - 9/25/12 at 6:31am
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Untrue... The 'one on the right' is made of Polycarbonate which is an advanced thermoplastic polymer composite material, and said substrate anything but 'cheap' in either its durability or resitance to damage from impacts and extreme temperatures.
Anyway... Choice Is Nice (and I always have plenty of devices from which to choose) :-)

ROTFLMAO. So polycarbonate is now an 'advanced thermoplastic polymer composite material'?

I guess you would define 'crap' as "highly advanced fertilizer material engineered for agricultural distribution that is rich in nutrients".

In the real world, there's nothing special about polycarbonate as a material, nor would anyone with any experience in the field call it an advanced composite material. If you want to look at the durability of Samsung's phones, try this article:
http://mashable.com/2012/09/24/iphone-5-galaxy-s-iii-face-off/
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It's all a matter of one's perspective/biases, as it can easily be argued that smartphones are but smaller-screened tablets anyway.

Who would make that argument? Oh, yeah - just the Android fanboys.
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post #97 of 110
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Wrong... It was an issue they were having with LTE compatibility with some of the US networks/carriers.
Personally... I find the S4 to be a very capable SoC, and in the US the GSIII devices come with 2gb of RAM, which makes muli-tasking much more efficient
Agreed!

 

What a joke, efficient multi-tasking is not a feature of the Dalvik VM.  Android is seriously limited because of his Java VM. 

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Untrue... The 'one on the right' is made of Polycarbonate which is an advanced thermoplastic polymer composite material, and said substrate anything but 'cheap' in either its durability or resitance to damage from impacts and extreme temperatures.
Anyway... Choice Is Nice (and I always have plenty of devices from which to choose) :-)

 

Polycarbonate is a overhype word for plastic, which is the same plastic used for optical disc and the same plastic Apple has used on their old product like the original iMac and PowerMac G3-G4 case.

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Polycarbonate is a overhype word for plastic, which is the same plastic used for optical disc and the same plastic Apple has used on their old product like the original iMac and PowerMac G3-G4 case.

I realize you want to take it out on DaHarder, but PC is not just an overhyped word for plastic, nor is it ordinary. It is a chemistry that's known for extreme impact resistance. It's not cheap either, a few times more expensive than acrylic, for example, even though it often looks the same. This is one of those plastics that cost more per unit volume than aluminum.
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Seriously AI...where do you find these articles? Clicking on the site looks like it was put together by some high school kid in his basement! Not to mention the errors, and bias rampant in the report.

 

I love how they give the GS3 screen an "Excellent OLED screen" assessment when compared to the GS2 in one report, but then "Very Good OLED Screen" when compared to the iPhone 5.

 

How about the fact that they compare battery life at maximum brightness, even though that metric clearly gives bias to a backlit device. At maximum brightness, an LED screen is using the least amount of energy possible (because the backlight is ALWAYS on), while an OLED device is using the most amount of energy possible. How about you compare what a typical user would use if your going to put out something meaningful?

 

Heck, the main benefits of an OLED screen, contrast and viewing angle, are completely trivialized in this report. I particularly love the "Large Brightness Shift with Viewing Angle" assessment for the iPhone 5 that laughably gets a green coloring for the cell....ridiculous report all around :)

 

OLED has many mythical benefit on paper that fail on real world application.  

 

   1) Power consumption:  While it's true OLED only use power when a pixels is light-up, energy efficiency of +2M tiny led light sources all light up is a lot less efficient than 1 backlight led, on what ever brightness you compare both screens.

   2) Contrast: OLED offer undisputable pure black over LCD, but his maximum brightness is lower than LCD and offer a worst outdoors viewing experience.

   3) Picture quality: Calibrating OLED screen is really hard because of his nature, OLED sub pixels tend to fade overtime and not at the same rate depending of the colour, this reduce brightness and produce colour shifts overtime. Pentile arrangement is a ugly hack to boost brightness and minimise colorshift.

   4) OLED has lower lifespan, this is why the only current application of OLED screen is for disposable electronics like Cellphone and not yet on TV set and other devices. 


Edited by BigMac2 - 9/25/12 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post
Actually... I merely buy exacly what I want/when I want because I have the means, doing so without the slightest concern/regard for your input. ;-)

 

That's right, you buy everything you see regardless of if you need it or could use it. Not sure that makes your opinion worth much.


Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post
Additionally: Find ONE Post wherein I said I 'hate Apple' - (Hint: There Isn't One).

 

But there are plenty of posts where you feel you have to qualify this. Almost as though you're defending something.


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Wow, they even copied the exact shade of white. That's depressing.


Originally Posted by hentaiboy View Post
It's all about holding the higher moral ground.

 

I don't see Apple users going to Android forums and whining about how much Android stuff sucks. What trolls do here is the equivalent of going up to a stranger and slapping your genitalia across their bodies. They want to come to our turf, that's fine; they get to play by our rules.

 

*for now…


Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post
This is one of those plastics that cost more per unit volume than aluminum.

 

And yet their phones are "cheaper" and get the telecoms "more" money… 

 

Some weird choices there, Samsung.

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post #101 of 110
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I realize you want to take it out on DaHarder, but PC is not just an overhyped word for plastic, nor is it ordinary. It is a chemistry that's known for extreme impact resistance. It's not cheap either, a few times more expensive than acrylic, for example, even though it often looks the same. This is one of those plastics that cost more per unit volume than aluminum.

Sorry, but you're providing misleading information. I have been involved with plastics production for decades. In fact, I played a significant role in polycarbonate production. If you remember the early 80s, CDs were difficult to come by and expensive - and had a short life. It turned out that making PC that didn't turn yellow over time was very difficult. The reason was that the acid used to catalyze the reaction remained in the product. I worked with one of the major PC makers to implement a process that removed that acid and created a much more stable polycarbonate.

Price is a red herring - and not really correct, either. Al typically sells for around $0.75-80 per pound now while PC ranges between $0.52 and $1.00 per pound (with some specialty grades being higher). Given that aluminum is much denser, PC does not cost more per unit volume than aluminum. Not that it matters - the price has nothing to do with it.

PC is a standard industrial plastic. There's nothing advanced or high tech about it - certainly not the grades that Samsung is using in their phones. (Similarly, there's nothing high tech about aluminum, although the process Apple uses for machining are certainly state of the art). Claiming that Samsung is using some "advanced thermoplastic polymer composite material' is nonsense. It's a standard plastic grade that has been available for decades and is a commodity at this point.
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post #102 of 110
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I realize you want to take it out on DaHarder, but PC is not just an overhyped word for plastic, nor is it ordinary. It is a chemistry that's known for extreme impact resistance. It's not cheap either, a few times more expensive than acrylic, for example, even though it often looks the same. This is one of those plastics that cost more per unit volume than aluminum.

 

I've seen the Apple's video on polycarbonate 15 years ago when the first iMac comes out. 

 

I don't question Polycarbonate high quality, but still is one of the most produced plastic in the world, and one of the most wasted.

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Sorry, but you're providing misleading information. I have been involved with plastics production for decades. In fact, I played a significant role in polycarbonate production. If you remember the early 80s, CDs were difficult to come by and expensive - and had a short life. It turned out that making PC that didn't turn yellow over time was very difficult. The reason was that the acid used to catalyze the reaction remained in the product. I worked with one of the major PC makers to implement a process that removed that acid and created a much more stable polycarbonate.
Price is a red herring - and not really correct, either. Al typically sells for around $0.75-80 per pound now while PC ranges between $0.52 and $1.00 per pound (with some specialty grades being higher). Given that aluminum is much denser, PC does not cost more per unit volume than aluminum. Not that it matters - the price has nothing to do with it.
PC is a standard industrial plastic. There's nothing advanced or high tech about it - certainly not the grades that Samsung is using in their phones. (Similarly, there's nothing high tech about aluminum, although the process Apple uses for machining are certainly state of the art). Claiming that Samsung is using some "advanced thermoplastic polymer composite material' is nonsense. It's a standard plastic grade that has been available for decades and is a commodity at this point.

Great insight, thanks!

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Yeah... We've seen how durable it is in the drop tests. All we have to do is grab both phones from the sides horizontally and twist with both hands in opposite directions. Let's see whose cracks first...
 

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Wow, they even copied the exact shade of white. That's depressing.

 

Thank god someone called it a shade for once and not a color. LOL

post #106 of 110
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...and it matters to very few but those bent on some silly 'Team This vs Team That' nonsense.
Reasonable people just buy what they want and don't bother worrying about what others do.

Somehow I'd wager you'd be lambasting all Apple fans and users for loving their retina displays as much as they do if the testing had shown the SIII to be comparable to Apple's 2 year old tech. Really wish you would get banned.


Edited by Slang4Art - 9/25/12 at 9:50pm
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Yeah, but isn't Apple now using the In-Cell screens that Apple has a patent on?  IPS screens were originally designed by Hitachi YEARS ago, but I guess Apple has been working with various screen suppliers, LG IS ONLY ONE OF THEM, to improve them.

Apple's technology is merely to incorporate the touch sensors into the display itself, as opposed to having a separate layer.  The effect this has on display quality is debatable, although it brings the pixels that little bit closer to your finger. 

 

LG is only one of Apple's suppliers, but Apple's screens are based mostly on LG's tech (as LG has been the primary supplier since the earlier iPhones).  If you look at the various Android phones, the LG displays are closest to Apple's in colour, contrast, brightness, etc... 

 

Again, for a balanced view on things, it should be noted that Samsung not only uses the worst display technology of any manufacturer, they also are the least original.  HTC and Sony IMO are producing the best quality Android phones at the moment.  LG has the hardware down but are still weak on the software side, Motorola sucks, and Samsung is the worst period - their software sucks, their quality sucks, their screens suck (although they are improving since the original Galaxy S). The fact that Samsung is becoming synonymous with Android should be worrying to Google - no wonder HTC is hedging their bets by pushing Windows 8 as well. 

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I don't think DaHarder is looking hard enough if he thinks there is no significant size difference between the iPhone 5 and GSIII. I would say this photo is all the "fact" you need. Also the amount of plastic below the screen is about the same as the iPhone. Since the GSIII is wider, it could even have slightly more plastic area at the bottom but I'll be nice and say it's at least the same as the iPhone 5. The GSIII does have the edge at the top of the phone however.

Centering it vertically hides the difference in an optical illusion way. Roughly a half inch taller and a half inch wider, it's quite a difference in person. It's why I've been calling the GSIII a mini tablet with phone circuitry. In person, it's just enormous. It's a clown phone in reality.

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I don't question Polycarbonate high quality, but still is one of the most produced plastic in the world, and one of the most wasted.

Where do you get that factoid? I couldn't find very many production volume figures for plastics.

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Sorry, but you're providing misleading information. I have been involved with plastics production for decades. In fact, I played a significant role in polycarbonate production. If you remember the early 80s, CDs were difficult to come by and expensive - and had a short life. It turned out that making PC that didn't turn yellow over time was very difficult. The reason was that the acid used to catalyze the reaction remained in the product. I worked with one of the major PC makers to implement a process that removed that acid and created a much more stable polycarbonate.

Interesting history, thanks.

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And yet their phones are "cheaper".

That wasn't my point. I'm just saying it's not some junk material. I'll even go as far to say that the cost of a finished part in PC is probably considerably lower than an aluminum one. I don't think that means it's necessarily inferior.
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Where do you get that factoid? I couldn't find very many production volume figures for plastics.
 

 

I agree It's a baseless claim of mine, but considering how many CDs and DVDs spindles I've consume and how many AOL and Netscape CD I've trashed, I'm pretty sure I'm not so far of reality. 

 

In term of volume can you name me beside packaging another plastics product that is more disposable than a coaster disc?

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I agree It's a baseless claim of mine, but considering how many CDs and DVDs spindles I've consume and how many AOL and Netscape CD I've trashed, I'm pretty sure I'm not so far of reality. 

In term of volume can you name me beside packaging another plastics product that is more disposable than a coaster disc?

You probably have a point there, I didn't think too much about the optical disc waste. It turns out that they are recyclable, but in practice, I think it's pretty clear that most are just tossed.
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