Originally Posted by Lerxt
What a bunch of w*nkers some of you are. Do people really need "proof" that Apple maps are bad? Statistically? Come on.... I hope AA stays on this and doesn't let Apple off the hook. They treated their customers with contempt and even admitted their Maps are so unusable people should use other products.
Originally Posted by Euphonious
There are times when statistical 'proof' is necessary and times when it's not really necessary for the point being made.
I don't need statistical proof that it's raining when I can establish that by looking out the window. Likewise, to deny that there's a problem with Apple Maps in the face of widespread complaint and a public apology from Apple is not really feasible.
You seem to be hiding behind this requirement for statistics a bit. Do you have statistical proof that Apple Maps is as good as Google Maps or better?
It has less to do with statistics than with representative samples and controls. You may be willing to accept a bit of whining on the Internet as evidence. I am not.
There are plenty of examples where Google Maps is wrong, too. So why is everyone so quick to say that a few errors in Apple Maps makes it inferior? The only way to tell if one is inferior is to do a side-by-side comparison. CR did that, but with only a very limited sample.
It's the same thing as all the other whining about Apple. When people started complaining about the antennae in the iPhone 4, all we heard was whining about how the behavior sucked. It was only a couple of months later that we learned that all phones do exactly the same thing. There's a ton of whining about Apple's subcontractors in China. Yet no one wants to mention that all of their competitors use the same (or similar) contractors - and only Apple is working to better the working conditions. We hear about the glass on Apple's phones breaking - yet no one considers the fact that ANY phone with glass can break.
There's a difference between loud-mouthed whining and actually proving a claim. So far, all we have is the former. If anyone actually proves that Apple's Maps are significantly inferior, I'd be happy to acknowledge that fact. I am not, however, going to accept whining as fact.
Oh, and BTW, Euphonius - you have clearly demonstrated your inability to think critically. First, I never claimed that Apple Maps was better. I never even claimed it was as good. But, then, I'm not the one making claims. I'm simply asking those who are making claims to back them up with facts. The ones making the claims have the burden of proof. If you want my opinion
, I would venture that they're both probably right over 99.9% of the time. I would also suppose that while both of them have very rare mistakes, Apple Maps may have a few more than Google's, but the numbers are too low to get excited about in either case. If someone actually does an analysis and finds that Apple is 99.9997% accurate and Google is 99.9998% accurate, is anyone going to care about the difference?