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A mockup of a 7.85-inch iPad has been photographed next to a Google Nexus 7 and 7-inch Kindle Fire HD, giving a better idea of what Apple's new, smaller tablet is expected to look like.

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The images published on Monday by Nowhereelse.fr show that the so-called "iPad mini" is noticeably thinner than the Nexus 7. When laid out next to the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire HD, it's also shown to be slightly taller than those smaller devices.

The latest images posted Monday also show that the dummy iPad mini has a thickness of 7.69 millimeters. That's even thinner than the new iPad with Retina display, which is 9.91 millimeters thick.

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The device was also measured at 13.5 centimeters wide, or 5.3 inches, wide, and 20 centimeters, or 7.87 inches, tall. In comparison, the full-size iPad is 9.5 inches tall and 7.31 inches wide.

The device is expected to have a 7.85-inch display that will run at a resolution of 1,024 by 768 pixels. That's the same resolution as the currently available iPad 2, which would allow applications to run natively on the device without modification or letterboxing, such as with legacy applications on the taller 4-inch display of the iPhone 5.

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Dummy mockups of the anticipated iPad mini have appeared online numerous times in recent weeks. Just last week, a new video showed a Wi-Fi-only iPad mini mockup.

The dummy iPad mini was also compared to Apple's full-size model, as well as an iPhone a few weeks ago. The iPad mini mockups have been available for sale in China for around $13.

Apple is expected to hold an event to unveil the iPad mini this month. One report issued earlier Monday suggested that invitations to the media could be sent out on Oct. 10, which would hint at an Oct. 17 event date and product launch as soon as Friday, Oct. 26.
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So both a 16:9 AND a 3:4 model, huh? 

 

You were expecting me to say "'Dummy' is right", right? lol.gif

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Think of all the things you can do with an iPad Mini mockup:
1. Take pictures and post them on rumor sites
2. Take pictures comparing the mockup next to real products and post articles about it
3. Measure the mockup and publish specs for a product that doesn't officially exist yet

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So both a 16:9 AND a 3:4 model, huh? 

You were expecting me to say "'Dummy' is right", right? lol.gif

Yes. Why would anyone ever want 16:9? Right?
Edited by iSheldon - 10/1/12 at 11:33am
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That picture doesn't make any sense.

 

Both the Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7 are 16:9. The Kindle Fire HD looks much wider than the Nexus 7 even though they share the same screen ratio, but that's probably due to the huge, ridiculous Bezel on the Fire HD.

 

The iPad mini in that picture also looks to be 16:9, but how can that be, when the resolution is supposedly 1024x768, which is the same as the iPad 1 + 2, which we all know to be 4:3? That makes no sense at all. Would Apple really fragment the iPad further, by introducing a 16:9 iPad Mini? I see that as unlikely. 

 

I guess that iPhone 5 optimized apps would work fine on a 16:9 iPad mini at least. lol.gif


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So both a 16:9 AND a 3:4 model, huh? 

 

You were expecting me to say "'Dummy' is right", right? lol.gif

Right?  Right.  I agree, right?  Okay; Right.  Fine, okay, ok right!

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That picture doesn't make any sense.

 

Both the Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7 are 16:9. The Kindle Fire HD looks much wider than the Nexus 7 even though they share the same screen ratio, but that's probably due to the huge, ridiculous Bezel on the Fire HD.

 

The iPad mini in that picture also looks to be 16:9, but how can that be, when the resolution is supposedly 1024x768, which is the same as the iPad 1 + 2, which we all know to be 4:3? That makes no sense at all. Would Apple really fragment the iPad further, by introducing a 16:9 iPad Mini? I see that as unlikely. 

 

I guess that iPhone 5 optimized apps would work fine on a 16:9 iPad mini at least. lol.gif


 

Did you miss the weeks of speculation that the iPad mini would have very thin side bezels, allowing its hardware to maintain the overall narrow width of 7" tabs but with the same 4:3 screen ratio as the iPad?

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Did you miss the weeks of speculation that the iPad mini would have very thin side bezels, allowing its hardware to maintain the overall narrow width of 7" tabs but with the same 4:3 screen ratio as the iPad?

 

Yeah, but we've seen two wholly different shapes in the mockups.

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Did you miss the weeks of speculation that the iPad mini would have very thin side bezels, allowing its hardware to maintain the overall narrow width of 7" tabs but with the same 4:3 screen ratio as the iPad?

I guess that I did miss that.

 

If the side bezels are very thin, then the top and bottom has to be huge, wouldn't it? How else can they fit a 4:3 screen in that 16:9 enclosure? And why would somebody put a 4:3 screen in a 16:9 enclosure? That sounds very un-Apple like.

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Seems to me like Apple is moving away from 4:3, seeing how the iPhone 5 as well as the new iPod touch are both 16:9. Make more sense for the mini to continue that and be 16:9 as well.
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Just wish the screen rez were higher. 1024x768 seems antiquated compared to the new 7"/8.9" competition.
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Seems to me like Apple is moving away from 4:3, seeing how the iPhone 5 as well as the new iPod touch are both 16:9. Make more sense for the mini to continue that and be 16:9 as well.

Then the iPad mini will be more like a large iPhone instead of an iPad.

 

In that case, Apple should just call it the iPhone big or iPod Touch large, instead of iPad mini.

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I guess that I did miss that.

 

If the side bezels are very thin, then the top and bottom has to be huge, wouldn't it? How else can they fit a 4:3 screen in that 16:9 enclosure? And why would somebody put a 4:3 screen in a 16:9 enclosure? That sounds very un-Apple like.

 

The earlier picture of the mockup.

 

 

 

In comparison to the iPad

 

 

 

The Kindle Fire does have a fairly fat bezel.

 

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The earlier picture of the mockup.

 

 

Yes, that earlier mockup is 4:3, which is completely different than the new mockup, which is 16:9. 

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Just wish the screen rez were higher. 1024x768 seems antiquated compared to the new 7"/8.9" competition.

 

Not much choice to maintain something easily scaleable to 1024x768 except to go retina.

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So this is a picture comparing two real products to what an imaginary device that may or may not really exist and which no one outside Apple knows anything about?

Sounds really useful. /s
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post #17 of 36

People keep saying there is a 16:9 mockup?  I haven't seen it.  Can somone post a link or a pic?

 

Or are people just confused because of the thin side bezel on the 3:4 mockup?  Mistaking it for 16:9?

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I hope to Gawd it's not called "iPad mini" because that is truly barf inducing.
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In contrast to iSheldon, which rolls off the tongue.
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7.69 mm thick - just a sliver thicker than iPhone 5. Impressive

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I hope to Gawd it's not called "iPad mini" because that is truly barf inducing.

I get the same sensation when I read iSheldon.

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In contrast to iSheldon, which rolls off the tongue.

You should talk- didn't you misspell your name using a "n" rather than an "m"? lol.gif
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I hope to Gawd it's not called "iPad mini" because that is truly barf inducing.

Why would you care? You hate everything Apple has ever done and apparently get paid to spread FUD, so it should make your job easier if it were really 'barf inducing'.
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1) This mockup has always looked thick. Probably because of the relative smallness of it because it's clearly thinner than the iPhone 4S and all other 7" tablets.

2) Looking at the battery life gains for the same performance just by going to 32nm from 45nm this should be tops. I do think they'll stick with the iPod Touch A5 for cost reasons but if they do go full custom A6 (â la Cortex A15-like) they could save a lot more power for a relative performance. One would have to compare both to see the total cost — and I think a very, very light weight is highly important with this iPad — but I think an A5 is most likely.

3) Like on the iPhone the bezel can be smaller than on the iPad if it weighs under a certain amount. The point of the bezel is for a grip that doesn't obstruct the display. This should so light that the minimal bezel will be more than sufficient. Scratch that... Apple has surely tested what a useable bezel is for this device class.

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Why would you care? You hate everything Apple has ever done and apparently get paid to spread FUD, so it should make your job easier if it were really 'barf inducing'.

iSteno would be much preferred but what do I know?
I just dread the original being referred to now as the iPad Maxi to differentiate from it.
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Seems to me like Apple is moving away from 4:3, seeing how the iPhone 5 as well as the new iPod touch are both 16:9. Make more sense for the mini to continue that and be 16:9 as well.

The previous iPhone standard was 3:2, so Apple hasn't officially moved anything away from 4:3 yet.

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Yes, that earlier mockup is 4:3, which is completely different than the new mockup, which is 16:9.

I'll just think of it as a hobbyist with too much time on their hands in both cases, to hoax people. There's no reason for us to believe either of them are intended to be mockups of a real project, much less both.

If a project is far enough along for Apple to provide physical test dummies to a case maker, they're almost certainly not going to make such a major change to the product that late in the design cycle.
Edited by JeffDM - 10/1/12 at 3:25pm
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Or, they can go ala Kotex, i.e. MiniPads and MaxiPads... It truly is describing Apple wonderfully...; it sucks its users' blood. Or, going further in the case of Apple map..., it truly sucks, period.

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iSteno would be much preferred but what do I know?
I just dread the original being referred to now as the iPad Maxi to differentiate from it.
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I was very worried that 7.85" would be too big to be a suitable replacement for my 7" Android tablet. If those measurements are correct though, the 5.3" width is actually narrower than my 4:3 ratio 7" tablet. That has got me very excited about this product again! Time to thaw out the Visa!
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iSteno would be much preferred but what do I know?

Obviously not very much. But that's obvious to anyone who reads your FUD.

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I just dread the original being referred to now as the iPad Maxi to differentiate from it.

So you've moved up to 6th grade attacks. Does it hurt you that much when Apple is successful?
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Does it hurt you that much when Apple is successful?


No, but it utterly pains me when it fails at mapping,

But back on topic, this looks like it could actually be 16:9 like the iPhone5 and would actually make more sense to fit the new gaming app ratios.
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3) Like on the iPhone the bezel can be smaller than on the iPad if it weighs under a certain amount. The point of the bezel is for a grip that doesn't obstruct the display. This should so light that the minimal bezel will be more than sufficient. Scratch that... Apple has surely tested what a useable bezel is for this device class.

Yes, and sAdditionally - Big hands will have no problem holding this device single handed from underneath, and small hands are likely to use this in horizontal view. In fact, I'd wager this device will be used more in landscape view than portrait across the board.

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Bottom Line: Will it fit into my standard L.L. Bean cargo pants pocket?

 

It appears to be too tall... ergo, no deal :(

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No, but it utterly pains me when it fails at mapping,

It must absolutely kill you when Google (who has been doing mapping for nearly a decade) fails at mapping, then.

And I'm still waiting for some evidence that Apple fails any more frequently than Google. Why is it that you are incapable of offering any comparative evidence?
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I wouldn't mind one of these.
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Yeah, but we've seen two wholly different shapes in the mockups.

I love it! Different mockups, different ratios, by whom, exactly? And then, based on one, a prominent individual makes an observation on what the real iPad will be like.
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People keep saying there is a 16:9 mockup?  I haven't seen it.  Can somone post a link or a pic?

 

Or are people just confused because of the thin side bezel on the 3:4 mockup?  Mistaking it for 16:9?

 

There isn't. Earlier this evening I downloaded the paper cutout for the iPad Mini mockup and then cut the side bezels down to 1/8th of an inch.

 

The result is about a 1/4" bigger than the original Kindle Fire in height and width and looks like a 16:9 tablet.

 

Go here:

 

http://www.macstories.net/news/get-a-sense-of-what-a-7-85-ipad-mini-would-be-like/

 

Download and print the mockup.

Then cut the size bezels down.

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