Rapper's performance at Microsoft Store event cut short after destruction of several PCs - Page 3

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Originally Posted by logandigges 

Why does everybody hate rap? Rap is the only genre of music that really reflects how people feel and their emotions. Other music genres don't. They don't show that, they say "dance, dance!" or whatever. They are not real.
 

I realize you are of a much younger generation than some of us but seriously, almost all music has emotion. Music is part of the human experience. The problem that many people have with rap music is that the emotions being expressed tend to lean a bit toward antisocial behavior. You really should expand your musical interests. There is a big world of music out there and a lot of history you have apparently left unconsidered.

I'd never heard of this piece of trash before, which isn't very surprising, but I guess that Microsoft got whatever they deserved, since it was their bright idea to invite this uncivilized wannabe thug to perform at their store.

The guy looks and acts like a complete moron, and he'll probably end up getting shot by some other genius rapper sooner or later, which wouldn't be that big of a loss to most people.

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee 

 

A lot of old ultra-conservative types like rap, and those that don't are fans of heavy metal.  That tells you a lot both about old conservatives as well as the music. 

The closest old ultra-conservatives get to the language of "rap" is when they are discussing liberals, blacks and mexicans. 

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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky 
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Is that really necessary? Can you please cut the derogatory racial slurs. It really undermines the civility of the discussion.

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Originally Posted by mstone 

I realize you are of a much younger generation than some of us but seriously, almost all music has emotion. Music is part of the human experience. The problem that many people have with rap music is that the emotions being expressed tend to lean a bit toward antisocial behavior. You really should expand your musical interests. There is a big world of music out there and a lot of history you have apparently left unconsidered.

Ok, I believe that, but most modern music (not including rap) shows no emotion. It's about stupid stuff. Now I like Eminem, a lot. And if you listen to maybe, the, uh, Slim Shady LP (specifically the songs Rock Bottom and If I Had), you'll hear the emotion expressed. It is almost overwhelming. It is so deep, some people just see it as some rhymes and swears. And I have a very diverse library, anything from Eminem to Darryl Hall and John Oates. 

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Originally Posted by logandigges 

 

Ok, I believe that, but most modern music (not including rap) shows no emotion. It's about stupid stuff. Now I like Eminem, a lot. And if you listen to maybe, the, uh, Slim Shady LP (specifically the songs Rock Bottom and If I Had), you'll hear the emotion expressed. It is almost overwhelming. It is so deep, some people just see it as some rhymes and swears. And I have a very diverse library, anything from Eminem to Darryl Hall and John Oates. 

Ok I can appreciate that and I actually do like some of The Real Slim Shady (1996) stuff. But since I have an open mind about your music, let me ask you to consider some of my music preferences. Spend 30 minutes or so listening to Radio Paradise (online in iTunes in the radio eclectic section) and I think you will hear some emotional music that is quite unlike anything you have previously listened to.

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Originally Posted by mstone 

Spend 30 minutes or so listening to Radio Paradise (online in iTunes in the radio eclectic section)

Great station!  Thanks for sharing this...

The rapper if you call him that started off by saying suck my dic#.  Now maybe I am wrong but isn't that kind of a stupid thing to say in front of customers.  On top of that who thought it was a good idea to have a "raper" jump from display table to display table where there are lots of computers (laptops) and act like a chimpanzee.  Actually I am sorry thats not fair to the Chimpanzee.  Lets say monkey.  Doe tats not fair either.  Hmm.  A retard.  No even a retard knows better.  I give up.

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Originally Posted by iSteelers 

 

I would love for you to list some names, if that is indeed true.  I really doubt that the older crowd, regardless of ideal, likes rap or heavy metal.

What's his face, the intensely evil, ex-jock, running mate of Mitt Romney is a huge heavy Metal fan, as are many other big name conservatives.  George Bush was also a big metal fan.  I'm not big on American politics (or America in general) but if you look it up you will find this to be true of a lot of them.   

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Originally Posted by logandigges 

Why does everybody hate rap? Rap is the only genre of music that really reflects how people feel and their emotions. Other music genres don't. ... 

Haaaahahahahah!!! :)  

If you are serious, you just outed yourself as a very,very, young (probably teenaged) male.  (or a complete idiot which you have never shown yourself to be in the past IMO).  

The majority opinion? ... (doesn't apply to *some* "spoken word" stuff): 

- rap is barely "music" at all  

- uniformly misogynist

- violent, pornographic

- mostly about ego

How in the world is some guy talking about how big his dick is, how much money he has, and how many "bitches" he's screwed, anything to do with real emotion?  

To think so is to misunderstand what "emotion" is IMO. 

Dumb, low-class monkey. 

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee 

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Originally Posted by logandigges 

Why does everybody hate rap? Rap is the only genre of music that really reflects how people feel and their emotions. Other music genres don't. ... 

Haaaahahahahah!!! :)  

 

If you are serious, you just outed yourself as a very,very, young (probably teenaged) male.  

He  has already disclosed his age in posts months ago. I don't think our purpose is advanced by discrediting his age and inexperience but is better served by instruction of the wisdom from the elders which your post does not reflect at all. He is a, young, but good guy in my book.

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Originally Posted by wshuff4 

I think the guy looks a little like Captain America before they gave him the serum.

 

 

Tallest Skil, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen on here.  Love MC Gates and MC Ballmer at the mics.

This +1

Some people act outrageously (& criminally) because of some artistic &/or anatomical deficiency. A 'Tazarious Interruptus' would have caused him a moment's pause, to reflect on his life, the meaning & worth of it, & perhaps choose to stop destroying other people's property to meet his own needs of overcoming inadequacy. When you feel that way for a long time, you become angry. On one level, I feel sorry for the guy, because this is the only way he knows on how to be a man that is known & respected.

I picture an SNL skit of 80+ couples sitting on a couch watching a Time/Life or PBS production of "Golden Oldies," swooning to the beat of vulgar, angry rap music. She hears a lyric, "bust a cap" & gets misty eyed, looks at her man sighing, "remember when we use to say that….aww…. Hey, what about that time, remember there use to be that little white kid, what was his name, I can't thing of it, he did that thing at that computer store when it was still in business, what WAS the name of that company? Oh, the good old days!"

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Originally Posted by mstone 

Is that really necessary? Can you please cut the derogatory racial slurs. It really undermines the civility of the discussion.

I didn't detect a racial slur in his comment.  Are they not called black, Mexicans or Liberals?  While I don't like political slants on tech sites, it seems a fair number of the posters here have no problems slamming Conservatives or Republicans (they are not the same thing).  Statistics do show the vast numbers of blacks and Mexicans, sorry "People of Color" are Liberals.

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee 

 

What's his face, the intensely evil, ex-jock, running mate of Mitt Romney is a huge heavy Metal fan, as are many other big name conservatives.  George Bush was also a big metal fan.  I'm not big on American politics (or America in general) but if you look it up you will find this to be true of a lot of them.   

Interesting, I did not know that.  Good for them!  Though I admit, the thought of Bush listening to Metallica or SlipKnot is pretty funny.  Do you have any names for the "Rap" part?

The teen years are very emotional for young men. Most get new feelings of being a bit rebellious, challenging parents, feeling very sad, hurt. Many don't learn to properly manage their emotions & become extremely angry. Everyone is on their case, parents, teachers, even the girlfriend. So instead of working it out, they are just angry all-the-time. Then an angry friend say, " Hey, listen to this rap, man, its so real, it speaks to where I am…I am one with the music. As they get older & blare the music loud, it's a huge "FU" to the world & it makes them feel good. When people look at them annoyed because they can't hear their own music in their own car, the angry ones feel powerful, turn the radio up louder, & mock their victim's misery. Unfortunately, it appears that negative, vulgar angry rap music reinforces negative & angry feelings & the 'young man' doesn't see he's trapped, not even looking for a way out, thereby perpetuating his own misery.

The older generation doesn't like bad behavior as displayed in the computer store. In our day, this out-of-control kid would have been tackled by store security, punched out or choked out to stop the behavior. In the really old days, a parent would have come down to the store & publicly spanked the tar out of kid, because the kid was tarnishing the family name, a total embarrassment to the father & family. Today, we see people who justify smashing the laptops as 'artistic expression,' & that we shouldn't stifle the creative processes. What a bunch of hogwash.

You are addicted to the feeling of being angry & the music reinforces that, so it feels right. Attitudes, feeling & behaviors can be changed to facilitate being productive & nurturing people of society. No woman, job, group or association other than other angry people will put up with it, & then you'll feel, 'the whole world is against me.' The world is not against you, its against your anger, breaking things & hurting people.

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Originally Posted by iSteelers 

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Originally Posted by mstone 

Is that really necessary? Can you please cut the derogatory racial slurs. It really undermines the civility of the discussion.

 

I didn't detect a racial slur in his comment.  Are they not called black, Mexicans or Liberals?  While I don't like political slants on tech sites, it seems a fair number of the posters here have no problems slamming Conservatives or Republicans (they are not the same thing).  Statistics do show the vast numbers of blacks and Mexicans, sorry "People of Color" are Liberals.

Actually I want to retract the previous comments as they really just open up a political ethnical debate the I would rather avoid actually. 

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Originally Posted by astrubhar 

 

Correlation = causation? You're suggesting that listening to hip-hop music means you're at the bottom of society?

 

I just think you should be more open minded. People are different. Some people like guitars, others like orchestras, and others like beats and melodic lyrics.

There were lyrics, but no melody.  The guy was just screaming to a beat.  To the vast majority of people, that isn't music.  We all get your point that people can have differences of opinion.  But to say this is music because people have different taste is like saying dog shit smells good or spiders are more beautiful than roses.  Say it all you want, but the rest of us recognize dog shit when we see it and this guy's alleged "music" is shit.   

I can't stop laughing that Microsoft let this guy "perform" in their store.  Microsoft is a train wreck and Steve Ballmer is to blame.  It doesn't matter if you hire 50,000 talented engineers if you cripple the company with a buffoon for a leader.

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Originally Posted by charlituna 


While I agree that the death comment was a bit much let's get real
He was signed because he sells tickets and CDs nothing more. And selling tickets etc doesn't equal talent.

So true.  Remember the videos where that guy got homeless people to fight each other.  Those videos made a lot of money, but I wouldn't say the guy was a talented cinematography.  He was a shrewd businessman.  If Machine Gun Kelly had eaten dog shit for a show, he would have garnered a lot of attention, but that wouldn't make him an artist or "talented".  

Well, he's earned himself some notoriety at Microsoft's expense. This would have been a very poor move even if he'd behaved himself. 

I can't believe Redmond is that desperate for foot traffic.

Those tattoos look like were drawn on with crayons.

And you can only get that 'angry at the world' sneer by being driven past a ghetto in your dad's Prius.

The screen in the back says, "get ready for a kickoff".  I guess that was his cue.

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Originally Posted by iSteelers 

 

I would love for you to list some names, if that is indeed true.  I really doubt that the older crowd, regardless of ideal, likes rap or heavy metal.

Well, at least as far as heavy metal goes, it probably still has something of a fan base in the 40-65 age group, they having been in their salad days during its heyday. But, I thought older conservatives listened to hymns these days.

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Originally Posted by Postulant 


Why not? We don't mind killing people who look different than we do. Or those who choose to worship different. Or those whose sexual orientation we don't agree with...
Yep. Seems about right.

No, don't kill em or nothing like that, just put em off somewhere - video is a tad long (from 1971, before SMS and Twitter etc) but worth watching through:

Amount of sales Microsoft gained from this: zero.

Think about how many sales MGK will gain from this.

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Originally Posted by astrubhar 

 

Should we kill everyone who produces music you don't like?

 

They've hit the top 100 and are signed by Interscope Records. That takes a lot of dedication that you don't find in someone you'd call "trash".

how does dedication play into "we gotta sign all this crap before someone else does" ? top 100 and such mean nothing. i would love to see the returns on his records... something that does not factor into billboard. ship a million, return 950,000. talentless drivel... but should he be killed, no. just smack his momma... 

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Originally Posted by logandigges 

Why does everybody hate rap? Rap is the only genre of music that really reflects how people feel and their emotions. Other music genres don't. They don't show that, they say "dance, dance!" or whatever. They are not real.
None of my statements include Lil Wayne or any of those idiots (YMCMB).

where have you been for the last 50 years?????? listen to music much?

About the music: I'm not a fan of rap. Just not my style. But I am completely impressed and respectful of the fact that that industry has thrived on its own terms, with its own economy, definitions, and values, without asking permission or forgiveness. I don't particularly agree with those definitions or values, but to me it requires -- and seeks -- no further validation.

About the Microsoft event: What. The Hell. Were you thinking?

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Originally Posted by logandigges 

Why does everybody hate rap? Rap is the only genre of music that really reflects how people feel and their emotions. Other music genres don't. They don't show that, they say "dance, dance!" or whatever. They are not real.
None of my statements include Lil Wayne or any of those idiots (YMCMB).

Seriously, i don't know how mesmerized i am by your claim, but from what i understood from the other posters, it resumes to inexperience.

So, a couple of friendly tips from a not that much older guy :

go to the itunes store and get this:

Yo-Yo Ma plays Ennio Morricone

Relax, sit quietly on your bedroom and preferably listen with a good couple of speakers or headphones.

Afterwards, you can also try finding a couple of Beethoven's symphonies. There's endless recordings of them. I can easily recommend you the

• Fifth symphony, all (i prefer the version by  Bohm (it's the maestro last name ) )
• the Seventh symphony, second movement 
• the Ninth, it's great in its entirely but you can go the fast way and just try the first and the 4th/5th movement - depending on the version it can have just 4 movements or five, but start from fourth either way.  (Karajan has a really good version of this but it's one of the most played symphonies of all time, so it's hard to find one that sucks (although they exist)

after this experience i hope that you will reach that:

1. there's more music than rap
2. you don't have to have lyrics or words to actually have emotion on the music
3. there's a hell of a lot "old" music that completely blows your mind if you just try to listen to it. 

try and then tell us how it went ;-)

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Originally Posted by ash471 

 

There were lyrics, but no melody.  The guy was just screaming to a beat.  To the vast majority of people, that isn't music.  We all get your point that people can have differences of opinion.  But to say this is music because people have different taste is like saying dog shit smells good or spiders are more beautiful than roses.  Say it all you want, but the rest of us recognize dog shit when we see it and this guy's alleged "music" is shit.

It's being held in a Microsoft store and recorded on a smart phone. He sounds awful in the video. It's a huge conclusion to jump to that his music is shit, based on that video.

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Originally Posted by Moe Luby 

What a loser. Needs a good A-Kicking.

Nah. He'll be sued if he doesn't pay for the damages. Meanwhile, people are actually taking time to discuss this "incident"... our loss.