If you are really pro-life and not just anti-sex religious nutbags...

Even if I wanted to personally pull their unborn babies out of their uterus and grind them into seasoning to flavor my eggs, why do I have to pay for it?

 

Let the one percent pay for it. They're responsible for everything anyway. Let Democrats pay for it by just mandating that all companies that produce birth control have to give it away for free. It doesn't really matter if it costs them anything because people think about numbers are just greedy assholes.

 

Let the people who don't have kids pay for it because it's cheaper than letting the people have kids and then burdening them with it.

 

Sorry if all those points seem lame but they had to match the thread premise.

BR, I think you meant to type:

 

 

 

 

 

You're welcome.

Because birth control is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies? Really?

How does one answer this thread... You have BR saying if one doesn't pay for birth control for others to prevent life they are not pro life but instead are "anti-sex religious nutbags". I sense a false dilemma...

I don't think that murdering and slaughtering a fetus is a particularly nice or noble thing to do, but if weak people and slutty women wish to eliminate and murder their own offspring, then go for it. I don't really care about them or their DNA. 

 

However, people should definitely have to pay for their own birth control. What's the name of that ugly and anti-American liberal college woman who was demanding that other people pay for her birth control? Sandra Fluke or something? That liberal loon and wannabe slut needs to pay for her own, get a job bitch. She can screw a whole football team every night and contract various nasty STDs for all I care, just don't expect me or any other tax payers to pay one single cent towards the slut's birth control.

 

Sweet...so should the government provide me free condoms, then?  

Why don't you pay for your birth control and I'll pay for mine? Then we can end this.

 

The only thing you've got is a non sequitur.

 

But I notice that you failed to answer my question: Why don't you pay for your birth control and I'll pay for mine?

So you're saying that I should pay for your birth control (and presumably you should, in turn, pay for mine) instead of us each paying for our own because of:

 

 

 

 

The jury's still out on that.

 

 

 

So do I.

 

 

 

So me paying for your birth control (you paying for mine) will lead to fewer abortions?

 

I'm confused. Why don't you just pay for yours and I pay for mine?

 

Yes, so you've said.

 

 

 

Okay.

 

 

 

I see.

 

In summary: You can't afford birth control so you want me to buy it for you so you and your partner can have sexual intercourse and reduce the risk of you or your partner getting pregnant (which you won't want to happen and which, if it did happen, you or she would chose to abort the child.) And, I assume, since you cannot afford to buy your own birth control, you won't be paying for mine.

 

Is that all correct?

 

 

 

Yes. do you understand the words I'm writing?

 

 

 

Actually, not even once. Maybe in your mind though I suppose.

 

Okay. What's stopping you from donating money to those who need birth control but cannot afford it?

 

Note: It's not just your dollars that you want going toward your goals and values but everyone else's dollars as well.

 

 

 

Again the only thing you've got there is a fallacy.

Edited by MJ1970 - 10/5/12 at 1:10pm

I definitely am. I am not willing to spend 1 single penny in order to fund somebody else's abortion. It's not right. If they wish to murder their own offspring, then that's their choice. Don't ask me to pay for it.

 

The bright side is that fewer liberals come into this world. How many abortions since 1973 in the USA? Something like 50 million? Nice job.  Keep it up.

I specifically remember being promised that free love and The Pill was going to end our problems with sex, then there was something about sex education, _that_ was going to solve our problems. Then there was the promise of Condoms, _that_ was going to solve our problems. Now there's the morning after pill....


In the meantime, people _can_ pay $100 bucks a month for their cell phone, but _can't_ buy condoms, or contraceptives. Now 1 in 4 teenage girls in America has an STD. Maybe the lack of foresight and self-control that went out the window with premarital sex is the actual cause of our problems. Maybe facile false causality "solutions," only serve to make their advocates feel good about themselves --- while they ignore the moral elephant in the room.

And lo, and behold, it brings us back to the dirty little secret of the sexual/moral revolution of the 60s/70s ----> it only benefited the rich.






















...which reminds me, the local Crisis Pregnancy Center desperately needs diapers..... something that actually helps.
Edited by dmz - 10/5/12 at 1:54pm

BR, please explain why some people should be forced under threat of violence to give other people money to avoid the undesirable consequences of their own choices.

 

So you're not going to answer my question: What's stopping you from donating money to those who need birth control but cannot afford it?

 

Nor are you going to respond to the fact that it's not just your dollars that you want going toward your goals and values but everyone else's dollars as well?

 

Okay.

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

It's not a "meme" just because you support and condone it.

 

 

 

Stop your silly false dichotomies. If you want people who cannot afford birth control to have it donate your money to them.

 

So, then, it's okay to force everyone else to do what you want.

 

 

 

Funny we have more government and less volunteerism than ever in the history of civilization and yet we have this:

 

Correct.

 

 

 

Of course I can.

 

So? That's not surprising at all. Of course you can.

 

Isn't it fun to arbitrarily declare that something benefits society and then use the force of government to steal money and resources from people to subsidize it?

 

I hereby declare that free ice cream benefits society. You will be required to have an ice cream tax deducted from your paycheck. If you refuse to pay, you will be fined, thrown in a cage, and killed if you resist.

 

Leave you alone? You should want more libertarians like me because that's exactly what we want to do: leave you alone. But here's the thing: we want you to leave us alone, too.

 

Stop foisting your false dichotomies on us. It makes you look silly and foolish.

 

Well there is no place where these things are free. They wouldn't be free in environment you advocate either. If anything they will be more expensive than they would be absent government intervention.