or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › Apple extends free iCloud storage to MobileMe users for extra year
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Apple extends free iCloud storage to MobileMe users for extra year - Page 2

post #41 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by LTMP View Post

I'm with you.  

 

I appreciated getting the email this evening, but I don't really know what I'll do with the space.  I do most of my backups locally.

 

I miss the Mobileme gallery.  I wish they'd bring it back


I absolutely agree.  I don't like the photo share at all.  The Gallery was just AWESOME.  family could access it easily and it had the RSS feed so family knew their were updates.  It worked flawlessly I think and should surely be resurrected.

post #42 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by djkikrome View Post


I absolutely agree.  I don't like the photo share at all.  The Gallery was just AWESOME.  family could access it easily and it had the RSS feed so family knew their were updates.  It worked flawlessly I think and should surely be resurrected.

Don't know what to say to you guys. Maybe you arent using it correctly. Personally, I find Photo Stream Sharing works sooooo much better than MobileMe Gallery. Family can subscribe to it, and it automatically alerts family when you post new photos, and vice versa. You can also share e gallery on a public website with anybody, who doesn't have a Mac or iDevice. And it's flawless. It even allows people to make comments.

The only problem I had with it, is that they killed MobileMe gallery three months before they rolled this out. I have no idea why, but it was a foolish move, that left people high and dry during the Smmer vacation months when people most want to share vacation photos.
post #43 of 58
I actually don't understand this at all ...

WHy as a former MobileMe user would I want to have all this extra storage temporarily? I mean is this an effort by Apple to get users used to extra storage so they will start paying for it in a year?

Honestly, since ICloud only stores certain kinds of iOS and OSX files anyway, why on Earth would I want a bunch of extra storage space on iCloud that is completely incompatible with most of the files I was storing on iDisk? It doesn't make any sense to me. As a former MobileMe user, I don't GAIN anything. And it's temporary, so what's the point? It just allows people to procrastinate longer, assuming they can actually find a way to move any of the files they had in iDisk into iCoud.

I'm not necessarily criticizing, I JUST DON'T GET IT.
post #44 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post

I actually don't understand this at all ...
WHy as a former MobileMe user would I want to have all this extra storage temporarily? I mean is this an effort by Apple to get users used to extra storage so they will start paying for it in a year?
Honestly, since ICloud only stores certain kinds of iOS and OSX files anyway, why on Earth would I want a bunch of extra storage space on iCloud that is completely incompatible with most of the files I was storing on iDisk? It doesn't make any sense to me. As a former MobileMe user, I don't GAIN anything. And it's temporary, so what's the point? It just allows people to procrastinate longer, assuming they can actually find a way to move any of the files they had in iDisk into iCoud.
I'm not necessarily criticizing, I JUST DON'T GET IT.

It's pretty obvious. Apple will offer you that space temporarily so that you get used to using it -- and then will start charging you later. The first fix is always free.
"I'm way over my head when it comes to technical issues like this"
Gatorguy 5/31/13
Reply
"I'm way over my head when it comes to technical issues like this"
Gatorguy 5/31/13
Reply
post #45 of 58
Everyone's complaining about extra space?

My iPhone is backed up to iCloud. Uses up most of that allotted space.
White Nexus 7 8GB
Black & Slate iPhone 5 32GB AT&T
Reply
White Nexus 7 8GB
Black & Slate iPhone 5 32GB AT&T
Reply
post #46 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


That's how I use Dropbox from time to time. I'll create a folder, share it with one or more people, put stuff in their and then trash the folder on my system. You can also use their web interace to upload to a folder not on your system but I much prefer using Fknder over a web interface when possible.
As I recall, iDisk had a single password for sharing for everyone. With modern option you have multiple solutions, many of which are you alllowing any number of people to join any number of your folders which you can easily manage.
I want Apple to give us back iDisk but only if it a modern version and not that insecure, 1990s-esque solution they had for us up through MobileMe.

I don't remember being limited to one password and share.  I would use it for work and would share several different files with different people.  As for being secure, I guess but I never had a problem with that and you could always encrypt the file you were sharing for those purposes.

2010 mac mini/iPad OG/iPhone 4/appletv OG/appletv 2/ BT trackpad and keyboard/time capsule/ Wii
Reply
2010 mac mini/iPad OG/iPhone 4/appletv OG/appletv 2/ BT trackpad and keyboard/time capsule/ Wii
Reply
post #47 of 58
I miss iDisk too- it actually worked and was totally reliable.
This backup - manage your account crap doesn't work as it is just that - a lot of work.
However I appreciate my .mac email account now free for another year as I have a brilliant address.
post #48 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

 
I agree. I don't use iCloud at all. I really liked iDisk and I'm not happy with any of the alternatives.
 

People really need to read the fine print on those services. For example SugarSync reserves the right to look at your files and even delete them if they find them objectionable or in violation of some copyrights or intellectual property. One company that I am familiar with spent a great deal of time and effort setting up SugarSync only to be told by their corporate headquarter to remove everything due to privacy of their sensitive research data.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

Reply

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

Reply
post #49 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstone View Post

People really need to read the fine print on those services. For example SugarSync reserves the right to look at your files and even delete them if they find them objectionable or in violation of some copyrights or intellectual property. One company that I am familiar with spent a great deal of time and effort setting up SugarSync only to be told by their corporate headquarter to remove everything due to privacy of their sensitive research data.

Anything you have that's private shouldn't be going through any free service like that. I wouldn't even use a private service for that unless it was well beyond your company's abilities to have something internal or you knew the 3rd-party service was secure and private by nature. For instance, we route all our email through a major virus scanning company. We use their servers to store their incoming SMTP MX Records before they get forwarded on to us.

This bot has been removed from circulation due to a malfunctioning morality chip.

Reply

This bot has been removed from circulation due to a malfunctioning morality chip.

Reply
post #50 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrstep View Post

Photo Stream - so simple, everyone can't use it.(TM)

Sadly instead of fixing MobileMe, they took the turn into the left field that is iCloud. Want to share files or be able to manage them? Go get Dropbox. Want to actually share pictures? Do it somewhere else as well (haven't found that somewhere else myself yet.)

Is there actually someone who wants to sync all photos across their devices? Or as the alternative - none? WTH? How about a 'publish' option that you can apply to pictures if you actually want them in the photo stream? Would that actually have been complicated??? For that matter, why didn't they just hook into the MobileMe galleries and let ALL iOS/OSX devices create folders, push pics, manage, etc.? Now that I could have used.

Sorry, I'm loving my iPhone 5, but I still can't believe how much iCloud screwed the pooch. It doesn't work for a family, doesn't work for sharing between friends, oh, and it really doesn't work for me as an individual either.

Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post

I find iCloud very 'messy' and the admin of the services confusing. I am not sure which id's do what. I have no idea why I can't get iMessage on my computer, for instance. The admin part should cover all aspects and be identical and available on all devices as well as on iCloud. I'd like to get an overview of what is going on. I understand that this is hard to design but I don't know anyone who really 'gets it'

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimoase View Post

I only use the email service and dearly miss Photo Gallery.
Like many, I have been a Apple services customer through several names and broken promises. Because the current offering slows and disrupts my computer operation chose not to use the storage currently offered.
In this age of broken privacy promises who would purposely expose their private information with a company whose services include narcissistic ME services?


The value proposition is entirely different than most competing services as the key feature is simply sharing and storage as a service (for applications).

* Apple iCloud provides free mail, calendars, contacts, notes and reminders accessible from Apple iOS, Apple OS X or from a web browser
* Apple iCloud provides 5 GB free storage which enables bookmarks, calendars, contacts, data & document, email, notes, to-do lists synchronization across devices and platforms
* Apple Photo Stream provides up to one month storage of up to 1,000 digital photographs with synchronization across devices
* Apple iCloud allows users the option to back up iOS devices online and restore from online backup without connecting to a computer
* Apple iCloud provides seamless synchronization of apps, audiobooks, books, calendars, contacts, movies, music, podcasts, TV shows in the cloud
* Apple iTunes in the Cloud provides free, unlimited perpetual storage and access on-demand to the entire catalog of purchased movies, music and TV shows
* Apple iCloud "Find my iPhone" allows users to track the location of their iOS device, or Mac with the ability to see the device's approximate location on a map (along with a circle showing the radius depicting the margin of error), display a message or play a sound on the device (even if it is set to silent), change the password on the device, and remotely erase its contents
* Apple iTunes Match allows users to download up to 25,000 tracks in 256 kbit/s DRM-free AAC file format that match tracks in any supported audio file format, including ALAC and mp3, in the customers' iTunes libraries, with users having the additional option on their computers to keep the original version stored there or to replace it with the version from the iTunes Store as they wish
post #51 of 58

Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


I don't understand why you'd buy an entire machine to replicate something as shoddy as iDisk. Dropbox, SugarSync, etc. are all not only simple methods for uploading files they are modern implementations that trounce iDisk in every way.
I understand missing an iDisk-like service for iCloud but to actually miss iDisk makes no sense to me. It was archaic and insecure in every way possible. I really wanted them to buy Dropbox but there is nothing they haven't been using with Time Machine sparse bundles and delta updates they already didn't have knowledge of before Dropbox existed.

No, I got this machine because it has more than one use.

Web server with PHP, ASP.NET and SQL Server Express, Media Server for the house, torrent box, development machine, time machine-esc backup system (using rsync), VPN server, file sharing service. The OS only costs £31 and underneath the pretty skin its a full Uni-Processor license of Windows Server 2008 R2.

 

Lets not forget how expensive services like DropBox are as well. $499 a year for a 500GB drop box (about GBP309). This computer I'm using as a server only cost £299 (£330 after buying the OS) and I've got more storage space plus the above services. Add $20 a year to have (up to) 32 dynamic IP addresses point to the server and I'm sitting pretty.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Proximityeffect View Post

True. At home backup is dated. It took one minor house fire in 2006 for me to see the advantage of cloud storage (or before there was 'cloud' for iTunes- off site storage). If any of your backups are local and not entirely fire/theft proof, you are wasting your time.

 

Home backup is not dated in the slightest; just because you had one back experience doesn't mean that its useless. "Cloud" services are also nothing new and exciting and are actually very expensive and/or very limiting in what you can do with them. Its the same client-server/hosted systems we've had for decades dressed up with a cute buzzword.

 

If you don't know about (or are not comfortable with) setting up a server then yes, hosted services are a good way to go. If you do know what you are doing then a home server crushes a "Cloud" service beneath its mighty boot. I used to go with services like DropBox and later Box.net - after migrating over to my own server I realise just how limited and needlessly expensive they are.

 

Yes you have the risk of fire, theft, power outages etc. Hosted services have their own associated risks as well - just search for "data center fire".

... at night.

Reply

... at night.

Reply
post #52 of 58

I've been using Apple's web services since the beginning (iTools->dotMac->MobileMe->iCloud), but many of the features that I liked and used in previous versions (KidSafe, iCards, HomePage, iWeb) were discontinued because, well, I'm not really sure why. I guess it's great that Apple is extending free storage to MobileMe customers, but it's not like I was using it before or will start using it now, or would pay for it when the free period elapses. Besides, if I start to like it, the service will be doomed :p At least I never bothered with Ping!

post #53 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

I absolutely hate that they offer so many domain names for the same email account. I think it's ultimately confusing, even if you don't include any of the wonkiness they are doing with the icloud.com domain.

Sorry sol, sir, I disagree. I like it that I can still use my .Mac address. I know that I'm not alone in this. Sure, an email address is just an address, no biggie if you change it, mandatory or not. But some people like to have the same mobile phone number as well: I always port it over to a new provider when I switch. Still use my very first mobile phone number, handy for long lost friends who do reconnect. And I have the same .Mac email address; close to a decade now.

Those email domains don't need to come across as confusing; those who started with a .Mac account still have that same email address. Those who got on board in 2008 get to keep on using their @me.com address. And I guess new users have their iCloud email address(?), though I've never seen it actually.


As for the .Mac services:

iDisk. I liked it, the interface on OSX: Finder - easy. On iOS: beautiful design, functional. Sharing ability to: read only/read+write. At some obscure internet cafe or at the office: web browsers, 'even' IE. Truly accessible. Yes security downsides and all that. Then again, Dropbox had their security issue twice AFAIK and apparently SugarSync (can't abbreviate that!) reads your stuff. Maybe Apple did as well, but in spite of me storing copyright material on occasion I never have been 'kindly requested to not do that' or anything like that.

Galleries: I like that new Photo app for iOS, PhotoStream can be 'nice', Shared or the original way, but those 3 are nothing compared to Galleries. I used it after my bit of cropping and simple editing like that in Aperture, and then uploading an album to Galleries was such a breeze. With the beautiful design of the webpage, the icons that you could skim through, there simply is no alternative out their. I know; I spent like 6 weeks trying out about 10 alternatives, non did the same. I did end up with light account ($30 p/y) at phanfare.com There is a Aperture and iPhoto plug-in available which makes it easy to upload and your webpage can be customized to look like Galleries 'reasonably' closely. Still, I miss Galleries almost daily.

iWeb, well, I actually still use it and have the output on my MacMini and I opened a port on my router. Just a shame the software won't be updated anymore. Yes ye, a very basic and simple webpage creator, but DreamWeaver certainly is no fun to use. Many, many alternatives though, so no biggie.
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
post #54 of 58
That's a lot of free storage that I can't really use because the iDisk feature is gone. I miss it a lot. I often have to send 100 meg files to others and doing it thru email isn't practical. I have to use dropbox, which works well, but those large files start to eat up my free account allotment with dropbox. I've tried skydrive (M-soft) but it has some glitches.

Apple, please give us the ability to have some true dropbox type of file syncing like everyone else. Not just the sync of certain app files, like iWork, or others. I wan't my files to be able to be opened by whichever app the other user may have to open them.

I honestly think that iCloud is about 4 steps backwards from MobileMe, other than iTunes match, with I pay for separately, there isn't any great "cloud" feature that is a huge leap forward from Mobile Me.
post #55 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by djmikeo View Post

I often have to send 100 meg files to others and doing it thru email isn't practical. I have to use dropbox, which works well, but those large files start to eat up my free account allotment with dropbox.

You could try wetransfer.com, although that is a Flash-based site. Still, easy to share 2GB files.
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
post #56 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

Sorry sol, sir, I disagree. I like it that I can still use my .Mac address. I know that I'm not alone in this. Sure, an email address is just an address, no biggie if you change it, mandatory or not. But some people like to have the same mobile phone number as well: I always port it over to a new provider when I switch. Still use my very first mobile phone number, handy for long lost friends who do reconnect. And I have the same .Mac email address; close to a decade now.
Those email domains don't need to come across as confusing; those who started with a .Mac account still have that same email address. Those who got on board in 2008 get to keep on using their @me.com address. And I guess new users have their iCloud email address(?), though I've never seen it actually.
As for the .Mac services:
iDisk. I liked it, the interface on OSX: Finder - easy. On iOS: beautiful design, functional. Sharing ability to: read only/read+write. At some obscure internet cafe or at the office: web browsers, 'even' IE. Truly accessible. Yes security downsides and all that. Then again, Dropbox had their security issue twice AFAIK and apparently SugarSync (can't abbreviate that!) reads your stuff. Maybe Apple did as well, but in spite of me storing copyright material on occasion I never have been 'kindly requested to not do that' or anything like that.
Galleries: I like that new Photo app for iOS, PhotoStream can be 'nice', Shared or the original way, but those 3 are nothing compared to Galleries. I used it after my bit of cropping and simple editing like that in Aperture, and then uploading an album to Galleries was such a breeze. With the beautiful design of the webpage, the icons that you could skim through, there simply is no alternative out their. I know; I spent like 6 weeks trying out about 10 alternatives, non did the same. I did end up with light account ($30 p/y) at phanfare.com There is a Aperture and iPhoto plug-in available which makes it easy to upload and your webpage can be customized to look like Galleries 'reasonably' closely. Still, I miss Galleries almost daily.
iWeb, well, I actually still use it and have the output on my MacMini and I opened a port on my router. Just a shame the software won't be updated anymore. Yes ye, a very basic and simple webpage creator, but DreamWeaver certainly is no fun to use. Many, many alternatives though, so no biggie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

You could try wetransfer.com, although that is a Flash-based site. Still, easy to share 2GB files.

I recommend OpenDrive which is similar to iDisk functionality with better security.
Edited by MacBook Pro - 10/9/12 at 5:14pm
post #57 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post

I recommend OpenDrive which similar to iDisk functionality with better security.

Thanks for that link MBP! Looks good guys:

Basic Plan:
Free | 5 GB Storage | 1 GB/Day Bandwidth | 1 User | 200 KB/s Speed

Paid Plans:
100 GB | 1 GB File Size | 25 GB/Day Bandwidth | 3 User Access $5/Month $50/Year
500 GB | 3 GB File Size | 100 GB/Day Bandwidth | 5 User Access $15/Month $150/Year
1 TB | 5 GB File Size | 250 GB/Day Bandwidth | 7 User Access $25/Month $250/Year
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
post #58 of 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


I recommend OpenDrive which similar to iDisk functionality with better security.

Thanks!  Looks good!

2010 mac mini/iPad OG/iPhone 4/appletv OG/appletv 2/ BT trackpad and keyboard/time capsule/ Wii
Reply
2010 mac mini/iPad OG/iPhone 4/appletv OG/appletv 2/ BT trackpad and keyboard/time capsule/ Wii
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Discussion
AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › Apple extends free iCloud storage to MobileMe users for extra year