Whatever. Those are terrible photos which should be deleted within seconds of exposure. People taking shots indoors with mixed light have no case whatsoever. Either take shots in a studio and publish it with the full EXIF data or take shots outdoors and post some credentials that you have actual photographic training otherwise it is just so much trolling BS.
So far my iPhone 5 does not produce any unexpected purple even though I have tried to replicate the issue reported by others
Quit with the condescending tone! We all know what donvreug was attempting to demonstrate and it wasn't artistic/photographic prowess. The argument isn't helped by trivial and snarky responses. Different imagers, different outcomes, a considered response would be welcome.
All the best.
We are no longer talking about photography and photographs but about imaging and images. Imaging is everywhere, for everything. The question should be, is the utility of the imaging system in the iPhone 5 down on previous generations? Whatever consensus is reached will mean nothing to an individual but social media gives every individual a voice now and so opinions carry.
If that's the case then great. Mine does a nice job.
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What part of being civil do you not understand?
iPhone 5 takes great photos. I don't see any purple issues. I suspect, as I mentionrd earlier, that either Google has mobilized a team of bloggers or whatever or perhaps there are some defective iPhones out there. Either way I cannot replicate the purple issue no matter what I try.
Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
Speaking of which, how long has Infinite Loop had its parking lots mapped out as drivable roads on Google Maps?
The building right next door doesn't have the same thing done to its parking lots, so could it be a not-so-subtle jab from Google at Apple's Maps?
No, they're saying the lens of your 5 is shittier than that of the 4S, so watch where you point it.
Nice try, but not the same angle / scene for either picture so they really can't be compared.
We've always been at war with Eastasia...
We've always been at war with Eastasia...
Against lens flare, there are easy steps to take, yes. Naturally, most pictures will not have lens flare since the sun won't be in frame, but the ones that do, may be more affected on the iP5 than on competing devices. This is yet to be determined. If the problem is severe, then the problem will also be more common. Think of fairgrounds with bright overhead lighting or photos in parties at nightclubs and restaurants, where bright light sources surround the areas.
The question I'm wondering is twofold:
- Is this an issue with a batch of the devices or all devices? Any proof in either direction?
- Is this really an issue common to all devices or is the iP5 significantly worse in this respect? Again any proof in either direction?
A lot of people say that this is the same issue that any lens experiences (including expensive SLR-lenses). In my 20 odd years of hobbyist photography with P&Ss and DSLRs I've seen lens flare in differing amounts depending on the lens in question and the actual shot, but I've rarely, if ever experienced clearly purple lens flare (even though my early canon digital P&S made all snow pictures blue). Has anyone, anywhere posted comparatively purple lens flare pictures from other phones, P&Ss and SLRs (besides the 4S comparisons here and DPreview)? I've yet to see one and would be truly interested in seeing such pictures if they exist . That would give a point of comparison. Plenty of flare pictures are available, but are there ones with flare that's been colored purple in the breadth shown here?
The thing that bothers me with this discussion is the seeming inability of many here to take an analytical view and approach the issue without bias. If some here bring real knowledge to the table, there are at least four people ready to pounce and call this person a shill, troll or something else because he doesn't praise the iPhone 5s camera off the bat. The worst is when people truly try to take comparative pictures (just like a regular consumer would) to help understand the issue, they are shot down as trolls. Why the blind hate when people are actually trying to understand if the issues are real and if they are, how severe?
Lens flare, the effect of slightly tilting an iPhone 5.
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.
Wow, I was merely trying to demonstrate the difference between the two phones in conditions that would potentially show the problem.
Some of you people really need to think before you type.
Thank you for taking the time to make the comparison and share it with us. Some of us appreciate it.
Those with no agenda understand that the point was simply to compare the two generations of iPhone under the same conditions and see the difference.
Everyone is going on about how the iPhone 5 is not a DSLR. I understand that, but explain this.
I took around five hundred pictures with my 4s, with not one purple haze picture. I have taken fifteen pictures with my iPhone 5 and four of them have purple haze, they are completely ruined. There is a fault with the lens. This is a fact and saying “point away from the sun” is a totally cop-out on behalf of apple. Will I being taking my phone back? No, it's not the end of the world and it is still an amazing phone but it's such a shame it has this fault.
Agreed. The issue for some may be that under SOME crappy circumstances the camera in the 5 will produce an image that's even crappier than they'd get with a 4 in identical circumstances.
The net point is that when pictures are shot in crappy conditions (which, for better or worse, they sometimes are when average people are shooting candids) one might come away with a better image with a 4. So if one is contemplating the value for themselves of an upgrade, and the camera is an important feature to them, it may be an assessment point. One among many.
Why is THAT hard for anyone to appreciate? If it doesn't matter to you, cool, you're golden. If it matters to someone else, why would you care?
Just another example for discussion: The picture on the left was taken with an iPhone 4S and on the right an iPhone 5.
P.S. for clarification these were taken from the same location and immediately after each other. As far as angle goes I did my best.
That's a much better comparison than the first, but the angle is still a bit different, perhaps different enough to make a difference in the exposure. The window on the left edge shows more surface area in one picture than the other.
It shouldn't be too hard to build a rig that clamps a 5 and a 4s together, left edge of one to the right edge of the other with the lens at the same vertical position, take it outside and point it in the right direction, i.e. with the sun off of one edge, and press the exposure buttons on each camera at the same time. That should solve the problem of angle, and time. I suspect that doing it that way will reveal not much difference at all, if any.
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The only thing done to them was to crop, on my iPhone 5, no other editing.
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.
Since you, apparently, are the Photoshop pro around here (though I taught it for a short while back in the day), please share with us the "bad" (so, I'd guess, quite obvious) Photoshop attempts in these images. I'm always up for learning a few new things. TIA
The Android way: Our problems become your problems.
The Android way: Our problems become your problems.
...easy to avoid.
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.
"The cobbler's children have no shoes", is a saying that applies a lot to companies who provide products and services. -KDarling on Google Search.
Crappy Android devices? Can your iPhone open up apps while the screen is locked and the phone is sitting on the table unattended while at a Restaurant? Yup my awesome HTC phone can. I was just sitting there enjoying a meal with my Girlfriend when I heard Cheesy Music start playing and it took me a second to realize it was coming from my phone. When I did realize it and I unlocked the screen I saw a game (Jewels Star) open and on the title screen. Just another feature that ios and iPhone are playing catch up on.
I am starting to think more and more the joy I will experience the day I finally can get rid of this Android experience I'm stuck with for the time being will be comparable to becoming a father for the first time. I urge you all and invite your sympathy towards me.
Crappy Android devices? Can your iPhone open up apps while the screen is locked and the phone is sitting on the table unattended while at a Restaurant? Yup my awesome HTC phone can. I was just sitting there enjoying a meal with my Girlfriend when I heard Cheesy Music start playing and it took me a second to realize it was coming from my phone. When I did realize it and I unlocked the screen I saw a game (Jewels Star) open and on the title screen. Just another feature that ios and iPhone are playing catch up on.
I am starting to think more and more the joy I will experience the day I finally can get rid of this Android experience I'm stuck with for the time being will be comparable to becoming a father for the first time. I urge you all and invite your sympathy towards me
this is what happens when you turn to the dark side of smart(DUMB)phones.
DOnt let the droid dorks convince you that it is a feature...
Congratulations on the Fatherhood, you will do fine as long as you don't make irrational decision like you did buying that android shit
andoid sucks, but not as much as the people who come here to defend it. they are also losers that suck
andoid sucks, but not as much as the people who come here to defend it. they are also losers that suck
this is what happens when you turn to the dark side of smart(DUMB)phones.
DOnt let the droid dorks convince you that it is a feature...
Congratulations on the Fatherhood, you will do fine as long as you don't make irrational decision like you did buying that android shit
Haha sorry I didn't actually mean I have become a Father. I was just saying that I'm sure becoming a Father for the first time will be one of the joyous moments in anyone's life, who is open to having children, and that joy would be comparable to ridding myself of Android. I wasn't convinced in a way you may think. Although I had little experience with Android other than older versions, I thought how bad could it be, they have obviously improved a lot because it seems so many people are adament about how much it has improved with ICS and beyond. That and the main deciding factor was cost of a non contract phone which the Android phone I settled on was on a major discount. Not to say it is unusable because in the end it does work as a phone. Just has many many flaws. I recently rooted and put Jelly Bean and it seems my project butter came straight out of the freezer so it's not spreading so smooth. I can write on and on about the issues but I'll spare you from my rant.
Never really crossed my mind that's what it could be. That's definitely something to keep in mind. Did you know that Google play has an app for AVG that is in it's top 100 list of free downloads. I find it humurous that a phone needs an anti virus app because it's not something I've ever seen before and that so many people have felt a need to download it.
