Accessory maker halts production of 'iPad mini' cases due to apparent 'design change' - Page 2

You're annoying

I think he meant product announcements not launches.

Well, sure, but I was ignoring that because it brings us back to the impossibility of keeping something of this scale under wraps. "Doubling down" only works if everyone who leaks gets fired.

 

Hey, thanks for that. I was just thinking, wouldn't it be great if tallest ski gave us another one of his obnoxious essay-rants about the name of the iPhone, because the 37,924 he's done in the past year, which didn't manage to convince anyone of anything, just didn't seem to be enough. I expect another one tomorrow. 

 

What blows my mind the most is that you don't own this phone, nor are planning to buy it. Nor last year's. Nor the one before that. Nor the one before. Or before. You haven't bought an iPhone since the original. Oh wait, you didn't even buy that, it was gifted to you. You obsess with names and other trivial details of Apple products that you have no intention of buying or using in the 1st place, which is so utterly absurd on so many levels. 

 

Nowhere did I comment on the name of the iPhone there. Close, though.

 

So you purchase every product Apple makes, giving your word on each of them divine assertion? Is that the takeaway?

 

Depends what you mean by "much."  To paraphrase Apple's marketing and applying it to AI, "There's a thread for that."  There are many genuine accounts of genuine issues, some serious, some not so much.

 

Personally I find it annoying that the Google map app in iOS5 correctly found where I am when starting trips from my workplace while Apple Maps INSISTS that I'm in the next block over.  Not worth bitching about, but not exactly confidence inspiring either.

Is Gary Busey available?

Yes, but only to play Neo.

Duh! Never a question of any other part. But now, who have we got for Morpheus?

Stubbornness will be your downfall. You make no sense at all, yet you stick with it. I don't care if you revel in your idiocy, but you keep throwing it out there as moderator of this forum.

I think it's just a model number. Model numbers don't necessarily have a meaning behind them. The "S" in some iPhone models didn't really have a meaning behind it. I don't understand your resistance to Apple's naming, that's what they're calling the product. I do believe that an Apple exec considered the original iPhone and iPhone 3G to be the same generation.

Apple never declared why the A4 chip is numbered like that, or said what would have made an A1 through A3, or what made a G1 or G2 PPC chip when they suddenly started calling the G3 a G3. It's really just a designation they gave, that's all.

 

So you ALSO don't have any sort of rebuttal as to calling the iPhone 5 the 6th-gen iPhone. Got it.

 

Don't have any set meaning, you mean.

 

I just can't see that. 

I don't have to give any more rebuttals to you because I gave a number of logical reasons why you are wrong when we first had this discussion previously, you don't know anything about manufacturing, or marketing, that's obvious. You stick with your fractured thinking despite events overtaking you. It's hopeless arguing with that. So I won't bother. It's also your tactic to think that someone who throws his hands up in disgust with someone's obviously flawed (and continued) explanations is losing the argument, when it's exactly the opposite.

There is also no useful definition of the word generation as it applies to product design and manufacture. The determination of what constitutes "new model", and "new generation" is entirely up to the company whose products they are. They, and not you, determine which features and upgrades constitute a new model or generation. They are the only ones who can do that.

The best you can do is to say that you "feel" as though something is a new model or generation in opposition to what the company is presenting. No more.

If you don't understand by now that you are wrong, then further discussion is pointless. But you don't understand that either. So do t try to soften your position by saying that we are both right.

 

Right there in that screenshot.

So they could call the fourth iPad "iPad 3" with the reason "because it's our third generation" and you'd be fine with that. Or… what's right… "iPad 9", because it's the 9th hardware model they've made, and you'd be fine with that due to there being no definition of the word generation.

 

"There is no meaningful definition of the word" is a great way to call your opponent wrong. It's also invalid.

Is a BMW 320 the 320th generation they made?

No.

 

Numbers are merely an identifier for the product, not an indication of which generation.

 

The numbers clearly have no meaning from the minute they started using them.

 

iPhone (no numbers)

iPhone 3G (3! but that's the 2nd generation)

 

I don't care about what the name is! That's not the discussion at hand. But you've shown that you support my side of this discussion, so I thank you for that.

Did Apple even say it was a fifth generation device? Otherwise, I don't understand what the problem is.

 

What, the iPhone 5? Not to my reading. That's why I'm so confused, too. It's the 6th phone they've released, so it's the 6th generation.

That is true, but the thing is you're probably the only one that calls it that way. Everyone else just calls it an iPhone 5.