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While Samsung will compete with Apple's iPhone 5 by offering its own 4-inch handset, leaked specifications suggest it will be a budget device with a low-resolution display and camera.

Samsung confirmed on Wednesday that it will launch a "mini" 4-inch Galaxy S III at an event scheduled to be held on Thursday. But German site MobileGeeks revealed (via Engadget) that the handset will have a screen resolution of 800 by 480 pixels with a rear camera that will capture 5-megapixel images.

The new 4-inch device will be a more portable option from Samsung, as its flagship Galaxy S III features a large 4.8-inch display. As Samsung goes smaller with its new Galaxy variation, it will match the larger 4-inch display Apple debuted last month with its redesigned iPhone 5.

But while the new Samsung handset will feature the same screen size as the iPhone 5, Apple's latest handset soundly beats the rumored specifications of the Galaxy Mini. The iPhone 5 has a screen resolution of 1,136 by 640 pixels, and an 8-megapixel rear camera.

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Galaxy S3 Mini mockup next to full-sized model via Mobile Geeks.


The Galaxy Mini is also said to feature a dual-core STE U8420 chip running at 1-gigahertz, which is a step down from the quad-core Exynos processor found in the international variant of the Galaxy S III. The smaller Galaxy phone is also said to feature a gigabyte of RAM and 16 gigabytes of flash memory with an expandable MicroSD card slot.

Word of a Galaxy Mini unveiling at an Oct. 11 event first surfaced last week, when Samsung sent out event invitations in Germany that promised to show "how big small can be." The new handset is expected to run Google's latest version of the Android operating system, Jelly Bean, with Samsung's TouchWiz interface.
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Even the 4.8"'s specs fall well short of those from the I5. 

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Specs is not everything, it depends on the market you target.  It could be sell very well.

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Even the 4.8"'s specs fall well short of those from the I5. 

 

"well short" really?  care to be more specific?

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Wow! that 4.8" phone is comically large. And judging by the bottom row of icons you aren't gaining any real usability with that larger display for basic usage.

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Specs is not everything, it depends on the market you target.  It could be sell very well.


Exactly...Someone like my wife who is not a tech geek, but wants to be able to play games and have a touch screen phone and wanted Android could really do well with something like this. It isn't really all that different (retina display being the biggest thing) than her iPhone 4 she got for $100 last year. The catch is how much, if it is competing with the iPhone 4 at free with contract it seems fair, but ask me to pay $100 for it vs. the $200 for its big brother is a much harder sell.

 

EDIT: To clarify for the record...my wife loves her iPhone and wouldn't do such a thing though :D

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Specs is not everything, it depends on the market you target.  It could be sell very well.

 

All you hear about from Android fans on forums is specs.  Should be interesting to watch the arguments get slippery when discussing this model.

 
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All you hear about from Android fans on forums is specs.  Should be interesting to watch the arguments get slippery when discussing this model.

One thing is for certain however. They will declare it vastly superior to the iPhone 5
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All you hear about from Android fans on forums is specs.  Should be interesting to watch the arguments get slippery when discussing this model.

We've heard about how the iPhone fails when doing all rudimentary spec comparisons and yet the iPhone despite usually being only an annoucned product not yet on the market and being considerably larger thus allowing for faster and more HW and yet the iPhone was still better all around. Now we have a 4" flagship(?) device from Samsung that is significantly lower than an already shipping iPhone 5 and in many ways worse than the 2010 iPhone and probably still not as smooth or user friendly as the 2007 iPhone. I can't wait to hear the arguments defending this one.

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All you hear about from Android fans on forums is specs.  Should be interesting to watch the arguments get slippery when discussing this model.

The specs arguments are growing thin too since the iPhone 5 has been proven several times to perform better than rival devices with higher specs.
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I'm confused why AI's following this particular model. It's just another 'midrange' device. Who called it a flagship? :confused:

 

This looks more like a sequel to the old international Galaxy W. I'll bet this won't ever even come to the US. Sounds like people can't see the forest through the trees.

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Specs is not everything, it depends on the market you target.  It could be sell very well.

All you hear about from Android fans on forums is specs.  Should be interesting to watch the arguments get slippery when discussing this model.
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The Galaxy Mini is also said to feature a dual-core STE U8420 chip running at 1-gigahertz, which is a step down from the quad-core Exynos processor found in the international variant of the Galaxy S III. 

So how are they going to run ICS? Will they add twice Butter or is the lousy display resolution enough to compensate for the poor chip performance?

I wonder how all the Android fans justify this questionable downgrade.

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One thing is for certain however. They will declare it vastly superior to the iPhone 5

Actually, they are all pissed off because it's just a mid range phone masquerading as a mini flagship.

Meaning that most of them are more rational than half the people in these forums

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So how are they going to run ICS? 

They're not. The article (based on a rumor) says it will run the latest version, Jellybean, or 4.1x instead of the older ICS version.


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The specs arguments are growing thin too since the iPhone 5 has been proven several times to perform better than rival devices with higher specs.
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I think someone here doesn't know the difference between "specs aren't everything" and "specs don't matter"

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Wow! that 4.8" phone is comically large. And judging by the bottom row of icons you aren't gaining any real usability with that larger display for basic usage.

Well of course it looks big. You're looking at it on a big monitor! ;-P

 

EDIT: I didn't recall seeing a side by side size comparison at AI with the iPhone5 and S3. There's one here if anyone's curious.

http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-iphone-5-display.jpg

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Samsung can't continually grow the size of a smartphone. I'm fairly certain the 4.8" size is at its limits or has already exceeded practical limits. They might as well drop back down in size. The larger smartphones are using up that much more materials and that can't be economical long-term. Apple will be able to sell its four-inch display iPhone for years to come and consumers will be more than satisfied. Nice try, Samsung, with your huge smartphones, but you've only managed to outsmart yourself.
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They're not. The article (based on a rumor) says it will run the latest version, Jellybean, or 4.1x instead of the older ICS version.

Wich is probably even more of a challenge for the poorly performing processor.

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I think someone here doesn't know the difference between "specs aren't everything" and "specs don't matter"

 

I bet he doesn't understand the meaning or point of your comment either

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"well short" really?  care to be more specific?

One for sure is color accuracy and overall screen build (not taking into account size- which is subjective).  "Well short" is an understatement.

 

For the record- I like the Galaxy for what it is.

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Wich is probably even more of a challenge for the poorly performing processor.

Apparently it's not an issue. I've seen comments from folks happily running Jellybean on relatively ancient phones, including the original Galaxy S. 

 

EDIT: I just came across an article showing Jellybean running on the original Motorola Droid. That phone only has a 550MHz single-core processor and 256MB of RAM


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I think this aims at someone who want SGIII but can not afford. That said, I'll buy 2nd hand iPhone 4 before this. My wife's runs like new again with iOS 6.
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Originally Posted by Lukeskymac View Post
Meaning that most of them are more rational than half the people in these forums
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I think someone here doesn't know the difference between "specs aren't everything" and "specs don't matter"

 

Blah de blah, whiney, whine. We know your position already; you don't have to post.


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I think this aims at someone who want SGIII but can not afford.
 

But… but Android phones are MUCH cheaper than the iPhone! iPhones are for snobby idiots!

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Apparently it's not an issue. I've seen comments from folks happily running Jellybean on relatively ancient phones, including the original Galaxy S. 

"Happily" is relative. I'm not impressed when I tested drive the first ASUS(?) tablet running JB. I feel the software has too much lags.
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But… but Android phones are MUCH cheaper than the iPhone! iPhones are for snobby idiots!

Most of people who bought Android phones are budget-concious. Even SGIII is too expensive. These people will never buy iPhone (unless they win lottery).
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Most of people who bought Android phones are budget-concious. Even SGIII is too expensive. These people will never buy iPhone (unless they win lottery).


Funny that they're spending the exact same amount on trash as they could be on quality.

 

How "budget-conscious" is that, really?

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So how are they going to run ICS? Will they add twice Butter or is the lousy display resolution enough to compensate for the poor chip performance?
I wonder how all the Android fans justify this questionable downgrade.

By not buying it? Since when are android users requires to defend every phone in the market? Quit whining about what android fans think. This victimization circle jerk you guys pull is just a case of pot kettle. Budget phones are a normal part of the android ecosystem, move along, nothing to see here.
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"well short" really?  care to be more specific?

Of course, my friend.

 

it has less than half of GPU power, disgusting oversaturated screen, worse camera, worse battery life while on use (4g browsing, gaming, etc), android OS is a "java thing" so it makes it automatically slower, dual core when the LTE chip is required, shitty build quality...

 

do I need to go on?

 

 

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Apparently it's not an issue. I've seen comments from folks happily running Jellybean on relatively ancient phones, including the original Galaxy S. 

 

EDIT: I just came across an article showing Jellybean running on the original Motorola Droid. That phone only has a 550MHz single-core processor and 256MB of RAM

Are you talking about those disgusting ROMs full of bugs from xda? in your opinion, are these kind of situations even worth mentioning? well, i can install jb on my xperia x10 mini pro and i already did it. it's shit, really.

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"Happily" is relative. I'm not impressed when I tested drive the first ASUS(?) tablet running JB. I feel the software has too much lags.

True enough. Some folks are just happy to have the latest OS builds for whatever phone/tablet they have even if they have some minor useability issues. Others fall into the "if it ain't broke" category.

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Funny that they're spending the exact same amount on trash as they could be on quality.

How "budget-conscious" is that, really?

Not the exact same amount. For example, Here SGIII is sold roughly $100 cheaper than 4S unsubsidized. This exclude promotions which sometimes is as much as 30%. We're talking about one of the most expensive Android phone, so no, not the exact same.
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By not buying it? Since when are android users requires to defend every phone in the market? Quit whining about what android fans think. This victimization circle jerk you guys pull is just a case of pot kettle. Budget phones are a normal part of the android ecosystem, move along, nothing to see here.

LOL! Just the answer I expected. 

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Are you talking about disgusting ROMs full of bugs from xda? in your opinion, are these kind of situations even worth mentioning? well, i can install jb on my xperia x10 mini pro. it's shit, really.

Certainly worth mentioning IMO, but I've no idea about the ROMS, how they perform, or how buggy they are. It looks like you know more about that than I do. I have read that the "official" Samsung Jellybean update for the old single-core Galaxy S2 starts rolling out next month. I don't see anything indicating Jellybean needs a lot of overhead or exceptionally fast processors. Have you seen something different?

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LOL! Just the answer I expected. 

Dang I just got owned by a modern day Nostradamus. Keep up the good work anticipating arguments on a message board rather than properly replying to them.
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Even the 4.8"'s specs fall well short of those from the I5. 


I thought specs werent important for Apple fans.

 

It's about the ecosystem and the apps, remember?

 

 

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Wow! that 4.8" phone is comically large. And judging by the bottom row of icons you aren't gaining any real usability with that larger display for basic usage.

 

0.5" difference between iPhone 4S and 5.

 

0.8" difference between GS mini and GS3.

 

Obviously, the picture is not drawn to scale.

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Dang I just got owned by a modern day Nostradamus. Keep up the good work anticipating arguments on a message board rather than properly replying to them.

Sorry I don't speak trollish.

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I thought specs werent important for Apple fans.

 

It's about the ecosystem and the apps, remember?

 

 

They aren't. And it's actually more about user experience, but the ecosystem and apps are a means to that end. AppleInsider is just troll fishing, or what they call "site engagement" in the biz. Frankly, I'm surprised from the headline that it wasn't DED who wrote the article. He's the king of that. lol.gif

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Certainly worth mentioning IMO, but I've no idea about the ROMS, how they perform, or how buggy they are. It looks like you know more about that than I do. I have read that the "official" Samsung Jellybean update for the old single-core Galaxy S2 starts rolling out next month. I don't see anything indicating Jellybean needs a lot of overhead or exceptionally fast processors. Have you seen something different?

 

I'm sure that the development behing a galaxy is much bigger then the one behing my xperia, but as far as usability, stability and speed, bugs and design, not to mention the sometimes painfull or simply boring process of flashing them, those unofficial roms are not even close to the level of an official rom, even if it's made from samsung.

 

I'm still on 2.1 (official) because it provides the best android experience i can get on my phone. it has a 600mhz processor and 128mb of ram.

 

It's like comparing a "cooked" linux distro to ubuntu.. yes, you may customize more, have more things to toy with, comand line to do your nice sudos, but ubuntu is a totally different (polished) animal.

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I thought specs werent important for Apple fans.

 

It's about the ecosystem and the apps, remember?

And it still falls well short.

 

(especially when you consider diferent launchers, icon packs, launcher themes as android apps. that's almost 1 third)

 

Apple's ecosystem (and apps.. not only on looks and functionality, but cocoa kills java and even html5) murders android. simple as that.

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