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Apple's 'iPad mini' predicted to be 'the next big thing' in China

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An anticipated smaller iPad from Apple is expected by one market watcher to have considerable success in China, where users have shown an eagerness to adopt devices with mid-range screen sizes.

Brian White with Topeka Capital Markets said on Thursday he feels Apple's so-called "iPad mini" is poised to become "the next big thing" in the nation of over a billion people. As reason for this prediction, he pointed to growing popularity for Samsung's large-screen Galaxy Note smartphone.

"While the Galaxy note is also a smartphone, we believe the tablet capabilities are the main reason for purchase in China," he said. "Our conversations during our meetings and casual consumer interactions this week tells us the iPad Mini will take off like wildfire in China."

Assuming the iPad mini were to be priced between $250 and $300, that would have Apple's rumored 7.85-inch tablet at a price point less than half that of the new Galaxy Note II.

White is currently on a tour of Asia where he has spoken with component suppliers and gauged interest in electronics products in the region. Earlier this week, he described Hong Kong as having "iPhone 5 fever," after all of the stores he visited were sold out of Apple's latest smartphone.

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While the iPad mini hasn't even been confirmed by Apple, that hasn't stopped rampant speculation and even precautionary measures from being taken. For example, AppleInsider revealed earlier Thursday that retailer Best Buy has begun sending out in-store displays to showcase iPad mini accessories.

Apple's anticipated iPad mini is expected to be unveiled by the company this month. Rumors have suggested it will feature a 7.85-inch display with a lower resolution than the Retina display on the third-generation iPad. According to The Wall Street Journal, Apple has ordered more than 10 million units it aims to sell this holiday season.
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So when the iPad Mini turns out to be total vaporware, will DeWitt, White etc finally be exposed as the idiots they are and fired. Or at least forced to stop with the Apple rumors once and for all.

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So no invite today, either. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. 

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post #4 of 31

Maybe not.

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post #6 of 31
I'm still on the fence about buying one. I'm always opting for more screen real estate and downsizing from an iPad seems like a loss. I can see the niche for it, just not 100% sold. Heading back to the development drawing board again! 1wink.gif
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Should probably move along with the mocking use of Samsung's "the next big thing" catch.  Very ridiculous considering we're discussing a smaller version of the iPad as well.  Perhaps imitating Samsung is part of the 'joke'.

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So when the iPad Mini turns out to be total vaporware, will DeWitt, White etc finally be exposed as the idiots they are and fired. Or at least forced to stop with the Apple rumors once and for all.

Well if it is vaporware as you suggest Apple is going to wish they had released it because the millions of people who are eagerly anticipating it to be released before Christmas aren't going to be angry the DeWitt and White. They will be accusing Cook and Company of not delivering the Pad mini as promised. Yes we know they didn't promise anything but the general public won't see it that way. If the iPad mini does not materialize it will be bad for Apple, from a PR perspective at least, and missed opportunity for sure.

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post
Well if it is vaporware as you suggest Apple is going to wish they had released it because the millions of people who are eagerly anticipating it to be released before Christmas aren't going to be angry the DeWitt and White.

 

And the "millions of people eagerly anticipating" the iPhone nano. Don't hear much from them anymore, do you? Guess they got over it.


 They will be accusing Cook and Company of not delivering the Pad mini as promised. Yes we know they didn't promise anything but the general public won't see it that way.

 

Anyone stupid enough to blame a person or company for not doing something that they had not so much as denied or hinted to, much less promised, at any point in their entire lives or existence is too stupid to be taken into consideration.


 If the iPad mini does not materialize it will be bad for Apple, from a PR perspective at least, and missed opportunity for sure.

 

Yeah, all those iPhone nano whiners really did a number on the… well, nothing, really. lol.gif

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So no invite today, either. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. 

Just maybe, just maybe, you will not have to eat your hat, Tally !!

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And the "millions of people eagerly anticipating" the iPhone nano. Don't hear much from them anymore, do you? Guess they got over it.

 

Anyone stupid enough to blame a person or company for not doing something that they had not so much as denied or hinted to, much less promised, at any point in their entire lives or existence is too stupid to be taken into consideration.

 

Yeah, all those iPhone nano whiners really did a number on the… well, nothing, really. lol.gif

 

regardless of who is to blame that rumor is probably hurting ipad sales right now if some people are waiting for it.  

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Originally Posted by AppleGreen View Post
Just maybe, just maybe, you will not have to eat your hat, Tally !!

 

Hat's delayed. And why in the first place? 


Originally Posted by herbapou View Post
regardless of who is to blame that rumor is probably hurting ipad sales right now if some people are waiting for it.  

 

They'll get over it and buy the real thing if it gets too close to the holidays. I'm not worried.

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Yeah, all those iPhone nano whiners really did a number on the… well, nothing, really. lol.gif

I don't remember reading anything about an iPhone nano anywhere but here and I also don't recall ever seeing any leaked parts or cases. This is a different scenario altogether. The rumor of the iPad mini is all over the place with tons of leaked parts photos. I say it is real. Has macotakara ever been wrong? I think he was the one who broke the news of the name 'mini'. I would be very surprised if it turns out to be a false rumor.

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Anyone stupid enough to blame a person or company for not doing something that they had not so much as denied or hinted to, much less promised, at any point in their entire lives or existence is too stupid to be taken into consideration.

As I'm sure you previously read, I'm in complete agreement with you on this. I see no point in an iPad Mini, even as I was almost sure there would be an announcement yesterday.

However you mention "Anyone stupid" above. Keep in mind that most of Wall Street still believes this rumor. Unfortunately I don't believe they know that the whole idea came from a rumor site such as this one (or perhaps another). They may believe Apple leaked these ideas like Microsoft's announcement of their tablet so far before release.

I still hold my believe that there is no need for a smaller iPad. Perhaps a larger one....
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Anyone stupid enough to blame a person or company for not doing something that they had not so much as denied or hinted to, much less promised, at any point in their entire lives or existence is too stupid to be taken into consideration.

Yep but nevertheless that is what will happen. I guess that says something about the general public at large and iPad customers in particular (tech savvy users excluded of course)

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post
I don't remember reading anything about an iPhone nano anywhere but here…

 

Gotta be joking. Gotta be joking.


…tons of leaked parts photos.

 

That have, quite recently, been shown to actually be iPod touch parts. 


Has macotakara ever been wrong?


Has he?

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I don't remember reading anything about an iPhone nano anywhere but here and I also don't recall ever seeing any leaked parts or cases. This is a different scenario altogether. The rumor of the iPad mini is all over the place with tons of leaked parts photos. I say it is real. Has macotakara ever been wrong? I think he was the one who broke the news of the name 'mini'. I would be very surprised if it turns out to be a false rumor.

So far everything has been "Unconfirmed", "Anonymous", "Mock-up" and other adjectives describing the authors reluctance to stand behind the parts. The full fledge Television has at least seen mention in an authorized book.

It may come to fruition, or it may be a rumor. I'm leaning heavily towards it being a VERY large scale rumor.
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It may come to fruition, or it may be a rumor. I'm leaning heavily towards it being a VERY large scale rumor.

It is a VERY large rumor alright. Is it true or false, that is the question.

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post #19 of 31
The obvious mistake being made here is that they are interpreting the popularity of "different sizes" as being about the size, when it's more likely those "sizes" are popular because they are cheap.

If Apple makes a smaller iPad that isn't cheap, it probably won't be popular anyway. Everyone knows the Chinese economy is all about cheap prices, not necessarily quality goods. Price is paramount.
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iPad Mini?

What iPad Mini?

What's interesting is just how long iPad Mini rumours are going to persist and how far they'll go. Even so, another week or so, surely to God, this nonsense will stop. Right?
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The obvious mistake being made here is that they are interpreting the popularity of "different sizes" as being about the size, when it's more likely those "sizes" are popular because they are cheap.

If Apple makes a smaller iPad that isn't cheap, it probably won't be popular anyway. Everyone knows the Chinese economy is all about cheap prices, not necessarily quality goods. Price is paramount.

They compared it to the Samsung Note which sells for around $500.

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They compared it to the Samsung Note which sells for around $500.

 

Well yeah, but that was only one device.  The report was predicated on Chinese consumers "eagerness to adopt devices with mid-range screen sizes" (in general).  At least that's how I read it.  Anyway, it was just an observation.  China *is* focussed on price.  

 

Overall this is probably just another BS "analyst" day-dream.  

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China *is* focussed on price.  

Just about any luxury brand is going to be popular in China and those brands are usually considerably more expensive there. For example Ferraris sold in China are second only to the US and not by that much, which is all the more remarkable when you consider that the costs are approximately double in China for the same exact car.

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What I don't understand is how this Brian White of Topeka Capital Markets has become the go to guy on all things Apple. He appears not actually know anything, and his greatest accomplishment appears to be putting a $1001 price target on AAPL back in the early spring.
 

Exactly! This guy flies to China, talks to a few people in
his hotel lobby, and is suddenly an expert on the Chinese market.
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Of course, the Chinese will buy a bunch of Kotex Minipads, uhm..., I meant the women. Ipad Mini? I'm sorry, what? With the 7" tablet models of android's Chinese variants sold for about USD100-USD150 each, the Chinese WILL DEFINITELY BUY Apple's Ipad Minis with the same internal hardware and crappy screens, much like Android ones, but cost almost THREE TIMES as much. Yupe, definitely, the Chinese loves to flaunt their riches to buy yesterday's technology.

 

You just love it when an anal-ist poses as an analyst to pump the share price.

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I think that apple ipad mini event is supposed to be October 10th. but it's already 12th now. what happened? see, greedy apple can't even make sample by itself. they canceled the event. pathetic. stock will go down more deeply. just forget about freaking mini. it won't be successful in 7 inch market.
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Originally Posted by archurban View Post
I think that apple ipad mini event is supposed to be October 10th. but it's already 12th now. what happened? see, greedy apple can't even make sample by itself. they canceled the event. pathetic. stock will go down more deeply. just forget about freaking mini. it won't be successful in 7 inch market.

 

Uh, this had better be a joke post.

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post #28 of 31

They must be a reason China likes Galaxy Note, otherwise Galaxy Tab 7" will become hot selling. What is the difference between iPad mini and Tab 7" to draw a conclusion that iPad will sell like wild fire?

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So when the iPad Mini turns out to be total vaporware, will DeWitt, White etc finally be exposed as the idiots they are and fired. Or at least forced to stop with the Apple rumors once and for all.

 

It could be vaporware.  But it would be a missed opportunity to remove the price window for non-subsidized 7" tablets.  With the Kindle Fire and Google Nexus the 7" market has a small premium window for Android makers.  Enter a reasonably priced iPad Mini and that kills that window.

 

It's more important now than before because a medium quality 7" android tablet for $150 will keep Apple from dominating tablets like they did with iPods if there is no iPad mini.  The current iPod touch alone is probably not up to the task.

 

Better to cannibalize your own sales than let Amazon and Google do it.  A fire or nexus is more compelling than the iPod Touch 5G come XMas.  Much better they be the booby prize gift that cheap parents got instead of the coveted iPad Mini. 

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They must be a reason China likes Galaxy Note, otherwise Galaxy Tab 7" will become hot selling. What is the difference between iPad mini and Tab 7" to draw a conclusion that iPad will sell like wild fire?

 

The iOS tablet ecosystem in a less expensive and smaller device.  There's a limit to how many iPads I want to buy every year since I tend to get the top end 3G model.

 

I could buy the iPad 2 as secondary tablet but currently that role is filled by a Kindle Fire which fits my wife's handbag better than the full sized iPad anyway.  For a family of 4 a pair of iPhones, an iPad and a couple iPad minis is a pretty good mix.

 

The iPod Touch is iffy...I let my kids play with my old iPhone 4 instead since I want to keep one as a backup in case we break one of the primary phones.

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it is not the ture news.

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